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Title: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Robert Paulson on October 04, 2014, 08:10:01 PM
time to load up some next to free bitcoins before the moron runs out of coins to sell.



Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: zeroday on October 04, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Panic mode on!
Hope to catch at $300 :)

Guess that moron bought it at over $1k


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Xiaoxiao on October 04, 2014, 08:15:33 PM
Panic mode on!
Hope to catch at $300 :)

Guess that moron bought it at over $1k


You do understand that the dust is still settling right? 


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: redhawk979 on October 04, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
Keep buying in folks.  Sunk_Cost_Fallacy.txt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment)


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: exocytosis on October 04, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
I'll laugh when all the bulltards and cultists start panic selling when we hit double digits.

Here's what the bulltards and cultists typically say:

Quote
"When we hit $xxx, I'll buy a ton of coins!!! Promise!!!! I'm just waiting for more weak hands to get shaken out!!!"


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Robert Paulson on October 04, 2014, 09:25:11 PM
these posts will look great in a few years when bitcoin is in 5 digits.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: redhawk979 on October 04, 2014, 09:25:44 PM
these posts will look great in a few years when bitcoin is in 5 digits.


So will yours in about 3-4 weeks when we're pressing sub 200.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Robert Paulson on October 04, 2014, 09:26:18 PM
these posts will look great in a few years when bitcoin is in 5 digits.


So will yours in about 3-4 weeks when we're pressing sub 200.

who cares what happens in 3-4 weeks.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: matt4054 on October 04, 2014, 09:27:20 PM
We need to downsize both speculation and excessive mining basically exchanging at any rate and constantly, because they can't hoard at the current rate and need to pay for their expanses etc.

tl;dr: going down to 250 maybe worse, in short terms, and then reversing to whatever, we'll see. Bitcoin has seen it before ;)


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: jaberwock on October 04, 2014, 09:28:37 PM
People saying it since the 600's.

Since we broke the 360's, the only graphical end is the pre-october levels, that is, sub 200.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: matt4054 on October 04, 2014, 09:29:48 PM
People saying it since the 600's.

Since we broke the 360's, the only graphical end is the pre-october levels, that is, sub 200.


You may still earn a few BTC in the meantime by selling now and buying back then aka shorting ;)

Or not, yeah, HODL the **** up :D


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Odalv on October 04, 2014, 09:39:02 PM
these posts will look great in a few years when bitcoin is in 5 digits.


So will yours in about 3-4 weeks when we're pressing sub 200.

$290 is impossible :-) ( ok, probability 0.00000001%)


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: williamevanl on October 04, 2014, 09:43:07 PM
these posts will look great in a few years when bitcoin is in 5 digits.


So will yours in about 3-4 weeks when we're pressing sub 200.

$290 is impossible :-) ( ok, probability 0.00000001%)

?! It was just at 308 on btce! People have to start wondering, maybe there's something you are all missing.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Odalv on October 04, 2014, 09:51:57 PM
these posts will look great in a few years when bitcoin is in 5 digits.


So will yours in about 3-4 weeks when we're pressing sub 200.

$290 is impossible :-) ( ok, probability 0.00000001%)

?! It was just at 308 on btce! People have to start wondering, maybe there's something you are all missing.

lol, no sane people will sell @$290 => I think there is not enough insane people who can drop price bellow $290 (they do not have enough bitcions)
 - calculate mining costs
 - count all sane users buying power


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: abercrombie on October 04, 2014, 11:14:48 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dhX94wQ.jpg


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: BusyBeaverHP on October 04, 2014, 11:28:19 PM
I don't know about everyone else, but this is my buying price target:

https://i.imgur.com/ddQBZZF.jpg

If it doesn't happen, I'll just have to catch something on the way up.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: MrBig on October 05, 2014, 01:02:12 AM
time to load up some next to free bitcoins before the moron runs out of coins to sell.

Maybe the morons are the ones buying the coins for what they perceive as being free...

Just saying, it can go both ways.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: MichaelBliss on October 05, 2014, 01:12:49 AM
I'll laugh when all the bulltards and cultists start panic selling when we hit double digits.

Here's what the bulltards and cultists typically say:

Quote
"When we hit $xxx, I'll buy a ton of coins!!! Promise!!!! I'm just waiting for more weak hands to get shaken out!!!"

Many people with more bitcoins than you can dream of yourself, will never panic sell, even if the price goes to zero.  There would have to be some serious issue with Bitcoin, not just a low price to induce panic selling amongst the Bitcoin believers.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: leopard2 on October 05, 2014, 01:18:37 AM
We need to downsize both speculation and excessive mining basically exchanging at any rate and constantly, because they can't hoard at the current rate and need to pay for their expanses etc.

tl;dr: going down to 250 maybe worse, in short terms, and then reversing to whatever, we'll see. Bitcoin has seen it before ;)

about the mining:

a. there is a point when no new coins are generated, then this downward pressure will stop and price will explode

b. in the meantime, when prices drop badly, miners cannot afford to keep mining. Result: miners stop, hardware development stops, hash rate drops. Hashrate and price will reach a bottom. Fewer coins will be sold. Then, the cycle will be reset, and prices will climb again.

So a crash will cleanse out the weak hands, and the industrial mining as well, IMHO.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: twiifm on October 05, 2014, 02:03:18 AM
We need to downsize both speculation and excessive mining basically exchanging at any rate and constantly, because they can't hoard at the current rate and need to pay for their expanses etc.

tl;dr: going down to 250 maybe worse, in short terms, and then reversing to whatever, we'll see. Bitcoin has seen it before ;)

about the mining:

a. there is a point when no new coins are generated, then this downward pressure will stop and price will explode

b. in the meantime, when prices drop badly, miners cannot afford to keep mining. Result: miners stop, hardware development stops, hash rate drops. Hashrate and price will reach a bottom. Fewer coins will be sold. Then, the cycle will be reset, and prices will climb again.

So a crash will cleanse out the weak hands, and the industrial mining as well, IMHO.

So its a game of monopolizing useless internet funbux.  In the future it will be 21 guys who hold a million bitcoins each trading amongst themselves for $10K per coin. 


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: phillipsjk on October 05, 2014, 05:35:08 AM
I'll laugh when all the bulltards and cultists start panic selling when we hit double digits.

Here's what the bulltards and cultists typically say:

Quote
"When we hit $xxx, I'll buy a ton of coins!!! Promise!!!! I'm just waiting for more weak hands to get shaken out!!!"

I am planning on buying in 2-3 weeks no matter what the price is. Just have to get my ID straightened out (Cavirtex lets you withdrawal CAD unverified but not deposit). I missed selling at the ATH as well (Cold storage FTW!).



Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: unpure on October 05, 2014, 06:24:19 AM
time to load up some next to free bitcoins before the moron runs out of coins to sell.

Bitcoin price is subjected to cost of production. If some ASIC manufactures and mining farms can continue to pump out coin at cheaper price, then they are still profiting from selling at this price.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: yefi on October 05, 2014, 08:44:03 AM
I don't know about everyone else, but this is my buying price target:

https://i.imgur.com/ddQBZZF.jpg

If it doesn't happen, I'll just have to catch something on the way up.

The wisest buy-in move would probably be to wait patiently for clear technical confirmation of a trend reversal. The advantage of this is that you are likely to avert any soul-crushing grind in prices that would make you exit your position unfavourably.

Having said that, I'll wager a bet at 200 :)


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Mellnik on October 05, 2014, 08:56:04 AM
OMG this is like a dream, NMC for only $0.84. I am going to double my 3000NMC capital as soon as it goes sub 300.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: Robert Paulson on October 05, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
time to load up some next to free bitcoins before the moron runs out of coins to sell.

Bitcoin price is subjected to cost of production. If some ASIC manufactures and mining farms can continue to pump out coin at cheaper price, then they are still profiting from selling at this price.

because of bitcoins adjustable difficulty the cost of production can be anything between almost 0 and infinity


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: BetMoose on October 07, 2014, 04:37:01 AM
I don't know about everyone else, but this is my buying price target:

https://i.imgur.com/ddQBZZF.jpg

If it doesn't happen, I'll just have to catch something on the way up.

The wisest buy-in move would probably be to wait patiently for clear technical confirmation of a trend reversal. The advantage of this is that you are likely to avert any soul-crushing grind in prices that would make you exit your position unfavourably.

Having said that, I'll wager a bet at 200 :)

We actually have someone offering to double your money if it touches $200:

https://www.betmoose.com/uploads/img/938.png (https://www.betmoose.com/bet/which-price-will-bitcoin-cross-first-200-or-400-927)___________Which price will Bitcoin cross first: $200 or $400? (https://www.betmoose.com/bet/which-price-will-bitcoin-cross-first-200-or-400-927)
Options: $200 (https://www.betmoose.com/bet/which-price-will-bitcoin-cross-first-200-or-400-927#1) | $400 (https://www.betmoose.com/bet/which-price-will-bitcoin-cross-first-200-or-400-927#2)


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: BusyBeaverHP on October 07, 2014, 06:11:35 AM
No bet for me. I think $400 will be reached, then the final capitulation at $200 a month or two from now.

As long as no announcement by the likes of the Winklevoss, SecondMarket, Amazon, or EBay pops out of the blue, we will have to test that trendline I drew... after a bull-trap.

On the other hand, if the final draft of Bitlicense is by some freak chance, favorable, then all bets on testing the ancient trendline are off as well.


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: indiemax on October 07, 2014, 07:40:10 AM
No bet for me. I think $400 will be reached, then the final capitulation at $200 a month or two from now.

As long as no announcement by the likes of the Winklevoss, SecondMarket, Amazon, or EBay pops out of the blue, we will have to test that trendline I drew... after a bull-trap.

On the other hand, if the final draft of Bitlicense is by some freak chance, favorable, then all bets on testing the ancient trendline are off as well.



Looks's like you you covered everything with that post ;D


Title: Re: some moron is basically giving bitcoins for free
Post by: kutaka on October 07, 2014, 08:28:47 AM
I don't know about everyone else, but this is my buying price target:

https://i.imgur.com/ddQBZZF.jpg

If it doesn't happen, I'll just have to catch something on the way up.
Dude, this chart is totally taken out of your ass.