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Title: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: ploum on May 13, 2011, 06:55:46 AM
I don't have any trading experience but I was wondering if the fact that a BTC has so much value could impact the value itself.

Would someone pay 100$ for "one bitcoin"? How you could you use it for payment then. Every price would be 0.01BTC or similar.

I thought that, by the time BTC hit 10$ (or 100$), we could agree to switch to mBTC everywhere (clients, merchants, traders). That way, you would buy 10 mBTC for one $. It's physically the same but, psychologically, not at all.

The advantage of switching to mBTC is that the old BTC values are still valid. It will also give us more space to the unfounded criticism that "there are only 21 million of btc". Now, it would be "21 billion of mBTC", which looks more realistic.

So, what do you think?


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on May 13, 2011, 07:05:23 AM
I thought that, by the time BTC hit 10$ (or 100$), we could agree to switch to mBTC everywhere (clients, merchants, traders).

This was from November:

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When 1 Bitcoin is worth somewhere around $100 (in 2010 dollars), I think it'll be time for the client to switch to millicoins (e.g. .001 BTC), so if I'm buying a paperback book it costs 50 milliBTC  instead of  .05 BTC.
  - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1833.msg22646#msg22646



Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: Anth0n on May 13, 2011, 07:06:31 AM
The market will take care of this when the issue arises!


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: FreeMoney on May 13, 2011, 07:30:21 AM
The market will take care of this when the issue arises!

For sure. If it's true that you can sell bitcoins for more $$ if you call them millibitcoins then smart people (there are some around here iirc) will buy from people who call them bitcoins and sell to people for more by calling them millibitcoins.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 13, 2011, 07:40:03 AM
we could agree to switch to mBTC everywhere (clients, merchants, traders).

This was from November:
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...it'll be time for the client to switch to millicoins (e.g. .001 BTC)

Yes it doesn't need to be switched everywhere, it's just a matter of choosing whatever client software suits you.

Some people will continue to enter '0.05' into their bitcoin client program, while others will decide to run SuperClientmBTC (tm) which takes mBTC as input instead.

Both send the same amount behind the scenes.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: eMansipater on May 13, 2011, 08:47:33 AM
The market will take care of this when the issue arises!
"The market" isn't someone else.  It's us.  The issue is naturally arising, and we can all come up with different ideas for what to do.  Hopefully the best ones will rise to the top, and enough people can realise that and make the transition in their vocabulary, so that everyone else isn't confused to bits.  No pun intended.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: carlerha on May 13, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
I believe a solution like this would be nice:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19443777/bitcoin1.png

the option of whether to display the combo box or not and its default value can be changed in settings, that way it'll be up to each
user and his/her preference how to handle all the zeros.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19443777/bitcoin2.png


And something like this upon hitting "send":

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19443777/bitcoin3.png

This way, the user gets a chance to review the numbers.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: ryepdx on May 13, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
I believe a solution like this would be nice:
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Not a bad idea...


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: error on May 13, 2011, 04:05:15 PM
Don't think we need nBTC yet (our 8 decimal places get us to 0.00 µBTC) but otherwise I think it works.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: CydeWeys on May 13, 2011, 04:12:09 PM
I definitely think that switching to mBTC (and even just renaming them to BTC some time down the line, so that 1 BTC = 10^5 base units instead of 10^8 base units) is a good idea.  It takes a lot of the psychological impact away.  For the record I was also strongly in favor of Berkshire-Hathaway's recent 50-for-1 split.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: mewantsbitcoins on May 13, 2011, 04:19:06 PM
calerha, I think that is brilliant


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: kwukduck on May 13, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Yep, looking good, would be a nice feature for scaling prices.


Title: Re: Switching to mBTC by default?
Post by: 2_Thumbs_Up on May 13, 2011, 05:49:53 PM
It's slightly dangerous to be able to change the unit in the send pop-up though. You really want to minimize the risk of over-paying something by a factor of 1000. I say it's probably better if this is in the options menu.