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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: testerman on October 07, 2014, 07:48:23 AM



Title: Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware THS?
Post by: testerman on October 07, 2014, 07:48:23 AM

Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware 1 THS production cost to the manufacturer?

I mean how much BTC costs to the manufacturer for 1 THS, i am assuming it is below 2 BTC / THS , for about 700$ per THS.


Title: Re: Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware THS?
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on October 07, 2014, 02:27:36 PM

Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware 1 THS production cost to the manufacturer?

I mean how much BTC costs to the manufacturer for 1 THS, i am assuming it is below 2 BTC / THS , for about 700$ per THS.
Since FriedCat sells the Prisma for 1.47BTC (it's a 1.4 - 1.5 TH/s miner), I think you can very safely assume the production costs are considerably less than 2BTC / TH/s.


Title: Re: Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware THS?
Post by: Grix on October 07, 2014, 07:35:42 PM
The question doesn't really make sense because there are several layers to the cost.  Do you count only the price for the manufacturing of the chips and electronics? If so, realize that the bulk of the cost is actually a one-time sum for development (NRE) which can be millions of dollars independent of how many chips you eventually produce.
And of course, even combining both of these, a company can't just sell the chips at cost and survive economically, there are other costs like wages, administration and bureaucracy, taxes, advertising, shipping, etc.


Title: Re: Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware THS?
Post by: testerman on October 08, 2014, 08:45:14 AM
The question doesn't really make sense because there are several layers to the cost.  Do you count only the price for the manufacturing of the chips and electronics? If so, realize that the bulk of the cost is actually a one-time sum for development (NRE) which can be millions of dollars independent of how many chips you eventually produce.
And of course, even combining both of these, a company can't just sell the chips at cost and survive economically, there are other costs like wages, administration and bureaucracy, taxes, advertising, shipping, etc.


yeah i need, as you said, both of these, chips + other costs,  i do not need exact price, i need an average estimation.


Title: Re: Can we make an estimation of the price of hardware THS?
Post by: philipma1957 on October 08, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
The question doesn't really make sense because there are several layers to the cost.  Do you count only the price for the manufacturing of the chips and electronics? If so, realize that the bulk of the cost is actually a one-time sum for development (NRE) which can be millions of dollars independent of how many chips you eventually produce.
And of course, even combining both of these, a company can't just sell the chips at cost and survive economically, there are other costs like wages, administration and bureaucracy, taxes, advertising, shipping, etc.


yeah i need, as you said, both of these, chips + other costs,  i do not need exact price, i need an average estimation.

johnny bravo gave you an answer.   asicminer long tubes sell at 300 usd a th  well now at 340 usd a th.

you need buy 10 x 1.5 = 14-15 th and you pay 14.7 btc   .. If asic miner sells that retail price of 1 btc a th   divide by 2   . 5btc =or 150 usd

maybe 200 usd.

go further and say they get 5 cent power and say you get 5 cent power same gear you pay retail

asicminer running 1th at the  wholesale price they turn 150 usd into 309 usd

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/909/it2Jvd.png

you running 1th  at the retail price you turn 300 usd into 309 usd

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/673/6LGkb8.png

 you can beat the edge the have.  of 150 a th vs 300 a th with really cheap power   2 cent vs the five cent  I used above .

see here

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/537/YEt8yo.png