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Title: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: TheIrishman on October 08, 2014, 08:44:31 PM
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Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/twitter-lawsuit-rights-transparency-report,27847.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/twitter-lawsuit-rights-transparency-report,27847.html)

<< Ben Lee, vice president of Twitter's legal department, took to the Twitter blog on Tuesday to reveal that the company is suing the U.S. Government in the U.S. District Court of Northern California. >>


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: acs267 on October 08, 2014, 09:32:11 PM
Doesn't matter if they have a good reason or not. (I'm going to go in the middle, since I don't want to be biased.) They're most likely not going to win and that's just stating the obvious.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: Balthazar on October 09, 2014, 12:30:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_against_God


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: WindowedCore on October 09, 2014, 01:25:33 AM
Lawsuits against God are pretty hilarious.  Reminds me of that South Park episode where the kids decide to sue the inventory of the toilet, so the lawyer just makes up elaborate rituals to steal all of their money.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: freedomno1 on October 09, 2014, 03:42:23 AM
Well I hope they win I guess
Looking at it the we need to give governments everything argument is pretty bull in my opinion

The complaint filed in the California court alleges that the government forces Twitter to engage in preapproved speech or forces the social network to refrain from speaking altogether. The complaint also states that discussions of the actual surveillance on Twitter is being "unconstitutionally restricted."


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: redHeadBlunder on October 09, 2014, 06:10:53 AM
Well I hope they win I guess
Looking at it the we need to give governments everything argument is pretty bull in my opinion

The complaint filed in the California court alleges that the government forces Twitter to engage in preapproved speech or forces the social network to refrain from speaking altogether. The complaint also states that discussions of the actual surveillance on Twitter is being "unconstitutionally restricted."
I would agree with the argument of twitter. There is no reason why their 'speech' should be restricted to only be able to tell the public in a general sense how many national security requests they received in a certain time period. Them being forced to only give general information makes it more difficult for the public to have a conversation regarding the issue


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: Bonam on October 09, 2014, 06:44:04 AM
The US government's position has no legs at all in regards to any of this surveillance stuff. They get away with it because of apathy, because of lack of media attention, and because of "might is right".


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: cinder on October 09, 2014, 07:11:42 AM
The US government's position has no legs at all in regards to any of this surveillance stuff. They get away with it because of apathy, because of lack of media attention, and because of "might is right".

The congress can simply change the law to make it legal to spy on American seeing the public has no bones.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: TrailingComet on October 09, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
They are just posturing to indicate their strong commitment to privacy protections. You gotta be pretty naive to buy this. They are a listed co in the business of monetising your data.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: kerafym on October 09, 2014, 07:36:44 AM
They are just posturing to indicate their strong commitment to privacy protections. You gotta be pretty naive to buy this. They are a listed co in the business of monetising your data.

Yes. All the user agreement when someone sign up for service such as facebook and twitter. Google didn't even required anyone to agree to their privacy policy when you use their search engine.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: Spendulus on October 10, 2014, 03:43:24 PM
They are just posturing to indicate their strong commitment to privacy protections. You gotta be pretty naive to buy this. They are a listed co in the business of monetising your data.
+1


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: b!z on October 13, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_against_God

Government != God


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: freedomno1 on October 13, 2014, 03:08:41 AM
They are just posturing to indicate their strong commitment to privacy protections. You gotta be pretty naive to buy this. They are a listed co in the business of monetising your data.
+1

True enough looks like somethings going on from the outside but nothing is really changing on the inside


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: TheButterZone on October 13, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_against_God

Government != God

Brings death from above with impunity = effectively God.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: DhaniBoy on October 13, 2014, 07:29:00 PM
does not matter if it is a constructive criticism, US definitely be grateful if reminded of the mistakes they make, this is called constructive criticism, but of course the demands put forward must have concrete evidence to be used as an alibi, the court will decide whether the claim is true or not ...  :-\


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: cma3 on October 13, 2014, 07:34:58 PM
The US government's position has no legs at all in regards to any of this surveillance stuff. They get away with it because of apathy, because of lack of media attention, and because of "might is right".

The congress can simply change the law to make it legal to spy on American seeing the public has no bones.


This is exactly what congress did after 9/11.


That said, Twitter has the means and the money to see this through -- and actually get the W.


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: ARadzi on October 14, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
Im not really a twitter fanatic. what happen to this issue now?


Title: Re: Twitter Is Suing The U.S. Government
Post by: bitsmichel on October 14, 2014, 03:32:45 PM
The US government's position has no legs at all in regards to any of this surveillance stuff. They get away with it because of apathy, because of lack of media attention, and because of "might is right".

The congress can simply change the law to make it legal to spy on American seeing the public has no bones.

This is exactly what congress did after 9/11.

That said, Twitter has the means and the money to see this through -- and actually get the W.

Surveillance has been done by my government for many decades. The difference being the scale of it. They get away with it because corporations and the government does not protect your privacy. That said, there could be positive outcomes from these programs as well.