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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Altcoin Discussion => Topic started by: bitMTW on October 13, 2014, 05:46:27 PM



Title: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: bitMTW on October 13, 2014, 05:46:27 PM
Has anyone used Counterparty platform to launch a crowdsale? How did it go?

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112664/counterparty-we-are-powering-two-thirds-of-bitcoin-20-startups-crowdsales


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: SomethingElse on October 13, 2014, 11:51:32 PM
I would really love to see the full list of 2.0s created on CounterParty.  I do know the NXT AE has a looooong list of start up projects.  http://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

Can anybody please share the equivalent link for CounterParty?  Something where all the CounterParty assets, volumes, and prices are listed?

I would really like to see some facts behind the headline.


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: TaunSew on October 14, 2014, 12:14:03 AM
Sounds like a bunch of bull$hit.

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/views/all/

Who did they bribe on Cointelegraph to print a completely inaccurate headline?


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: SomethingElse on October 14, 2014, 12:25:47 AM
Sounds like a bunch of bull$hit.

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/views/all/

Who did they bribe on Cointelegraph to print a completely inaccurate headline?


I agree.  I am waiting for the link to prove their numbers.


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: nutildah on October 14, 2014, 08:02:45 AM
I would really love to see the full list of 2.0s created on CounterParty.  I do know the NXT AE has a looooong list of start up projects.  http://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

Can anybody please share the equivalent link for CounterParty?  Something where all the CounterParty assets, volumes, and prices are listed?

I would really like to see some facts behind the headline.

https://blockscan.com/asset

The best place to look at the Counterparty market activity is within the Counterwallet itself:

https://counterwallet.io

I haven't read the article but a few (as of today) successful Counterparty-backed startups include:

SWARM
Storj (SJCX)

And... OK.. you got, me, I can't think of any more.

But the whole Overstock thing does give them some credibility not enjoyed by many other competitors: business world legitimacy.


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: Daedelus on October 14, 2014, 10:41:30 AM
The comments in the article keep pointing to it relating to Bitcoin startups...


So Counterparty are claiming to have a majority in a minority of the market. And they don't think this might be misleading or not fairly presenting the bigger picture?  


The bigger picture being that out of the current top twenty crypto 2.0 assets, Counterparty makes up only 10% by market cap and 15% by number of assets. As opposed to Nxt that has 52% of market cap and 75% by number of assets...


Hmm...



"US Government: We are not bombing 100% of US soil."


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Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: SomethingElse on October 14, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
I would really love to see the full list of 2.0s created on CounterParty.  I do know the NXT AE has a looooong list of start up projects.  http://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

Can anybody please share the equivalent link for CounterParty?  Something where all the CounterParty assets, volumes, and prices are listed?

I would really like to see some facts behind the headline.

https://blockscan.com/asset

The best place to look at the Counterparty market activity is within the Counterwallet itself:

https://counterwallet.io

I haven't read the article but a few (as of today) successful Counterparty-backed startups include:

SWARM
Storj (SJCX)

And... OK.. you got, me, I can't think of any more.

But the whole Overstock thing does give them some credibility not enjoyed by many other competitors: business world legitimacy.

I'm having a hard time making sense of the blockscan, but the wallet is actually easier. 

I hadn't really explored the wallet much.  I have to say I think CounterParty has the nicest wallet of any platform I have used.  It is easy to log into, the interface is good looking and well designed. 

But still, NXT has way more assets that are legitimate and a lot more volume.  Maybe it is because CounterParty is realllllly slow.

I hope when this Overstock deal comes through they speed it up to the speed of Ripple.


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: nutildah on October 14, 2014, 06:54:36 PM

And they don't think this might be misleading or not fairly presenting the bigger picture?  


No, they probably do know they are being misleading for the sake of sensationalism, but you can't catch them on this technicality because they are the ones defining what a "bitcoin startup" is for the purposes of this article.

I think NXT is actually a bit more sophisticated in terms of managing assets but whoever can create the friendliest GUI wins. Whoever can make it easiest for their assets to run parallel to the platform, as a standalone entity, will also win.

I was thinking about whether to launch my own asset and going through the pros and cons of Counterparty vs. NXT:

PROS
-Counterparty is cheaper and backed by the bitcoin blockchain
-NXT is more sophisticated and offers dividend issuance

CONS
-Trading on Counterparty is sluggish and components are nonfunctional at times
-Setup & downloading the NXT blockchain takes a long time. So does opening the wallet.


Title: Re: Counterparty: We Are Powering Two-Thirds of Bitcoin 2.0 Startups’ Crowdsales
Post by: sadface on October 14, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
-Setup & downloading the NXT blockchain takes a long time. So does opening the wallet.

1.3 was released today, it should start up a lot faster now.