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Title: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Dansker on May 17, 2012, 06:55:55 PM
Trade Mark No.   Mark Text   File Date   Status   Nice Classes   Vienna Classes   Image   Picking List
E10103646    BITCOIN    07/07/2011    Registered    09 35 38 42        No image exists for Trade Mark E10103646.    
E10050466    bit coin    15/06/2011    Registered    09 38 41        Image for Trade Mark E10050466.    

One is a word mark, one has an (ugly) picture.

Both registered to Tribanne:

Applicant:
    Tibanne Co. Ltd.
    Cerulean Tower 15F 26-1 Sakuragaoka-Cho, Shibuya Tokyo, Japan, 150-8512
Representative:
    BAKER & MCKENZIE LLP
    100 New Bridge Street, London, United Kingdom, EC4V 6JA

Is this news, or were you all familiar with the word "bitcoin" now being the intellectual property of Tribanne Co. Ltd. (Mt. Gox etc.) ?


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Stephen Gornick on May 17, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
Some history:
 - http://mtgox.com/press_release_20111014.html
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48250.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=46424.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26527.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39374.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49841.9
 - http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/07/07/0326213/lawyer-attempts-to-trademark-bitcoin
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26869.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26765.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27205.0


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Dansker on May 17, 2012, 07:03:32 PM
Hi Stephen,

I think you are confusing the UK and the US?


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Stephen Gornick on May 17, 2012, 07:05:11 PM
Hi Stephen,

I think you are confusing the UK and the US?

Nope, just showing that the topic has come up at least once before.   Though I did add some new links to the list.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: kiba on May 17, 2012, 07:07:09 PM
The bitcoin trademark should eventually transferred to a bitcoin foundation or something.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: terrytibbs on May 17, 2012, 07:07:35 PM
hey mr. karpeles please challenge me in court over this i'd love to show you how trademark law works


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: JusticeForYou on May 17, 2012, 07:53:27 PM
All this trademark stuff "isn't worth two bit coins."   ;D


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: MagicalTux on May 18, 2012, 01:04:41 AM
hey mr. karpeles please challenge me in court over this i'd love to show you how trademark law works
We registered the Bitcoin trademark to protect it and allow anyone to use Bitcoins without risking to be attacked by our Pascazi friends (or other people).

More people using Bitcoin freely is of course good for our business. Some US lawyer registering the trademark in various countries with plans to profit from the registration and not by allowing more people to use Bitcoin is bad for our business.

We didn't register the trademark for the purpose of preventing others from using the word Bitcoin, but to protect ourselves and our customers from people who have this kind of mindset.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: julz on May 18, 2012, 01:18:39 AM
hey mr. karpeles please challenge me in court over this i'd love to show you how trademark law works
We registered the Bitcoin trademark to protect it and allow anyone to use Bitcoins without risking to be attacked by our Pascazi friends (or other people).

More people using Bitcoin freely is of course good for our business. Some US lawyer registering the trademark in various countries with plans to profit from the registration and not by allowing more people to use Bitcoin is bad for our business.

We didn't register the trademark for the purpose of preventing others from using the word Bitcoin, but to protect ourselves and our customers from people who have this kind of mindset.

The intention behind this is excellent.

I'd be happier if it was a separate legal entity that held the trademark though.  If for some terrible reason (simultaneous earthquakes destroying your BTC wallets?) Tibanne went into administration - wouldn't the administrators simply view it as an asset for sale in order to recover funds for creditors?

Similarly, if Tibanne changes ownership - the original intention may not hold.

Still.. you can't account for every possibility. For now, it's well placed in your hands I think.




Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: niko on May 18, 2012, 03:03:10 AM

The intention behind this is excellent.

I'd be happier if it was a separate legal entity that held the trademark though.  If for some terrible reason (simultaneous earthquakes destroying your BTC wallets?) Tibanne went into administration - wouldn't the administrators simply view it as an asset for sale in order to recover funds for creditors?

Similarly, if Tibanne changes ownership - the original intention may not hold.

Still.. you can't account for every possibility. For now, it's well placed in your hands I think.


This (change of ownership or bankruptcy) is a legitimate concern. Mark, what's the plan?  Also, thanks for all the hard and productive work.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: MagicalTux on May 18, 2012, 03:12:33 AM
This (change of ownership or bankruptcy) is a legitimate concern. Mark, what's the plan?  Also, thanks for all the hard and productive work.

We're working on various solutions for this. The problem is if the trademark is not held by a company which trade is actually bitcoin related, it'd make the trademark mostly void.

Change of ownership shouldn't be an issue, as there is no point in preventing people from using bitcoins as an exchange (except if attempting to kill our own userbase). Bankruptcy could  be more of an issue, however we are working on solving this problem too as we explore possible options with our legal counsels. As soon as we have found a definitive option, we'll announce it.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: niko on May 18, 2012, 03:29:27 AM
...
Change of ownership shouldn't be an issue, as there is no point in preventing people from using bitcoins as an exchange (except if attempting to kill our own userbase). Bankruptcy could  be more of an issue, however we are working on solving this problem too as we explore possible options with our legal counsels. As soon as we have found a definitive option, we'll announce it.

Good to know, thanks!


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Elwar on May 21, 2019, 06:03:35 PM
Bump for relevance.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 21, 2019, 06:12:05 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.

https://i.imgur.com/Wttdzwv.png


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: squatter on May 21, 2019, 10:15:20 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.

It doesn't matter. Anyone else can have the same copyright registered as well. Disputes over copyright ownership are sorted out in the courts, not the Copyright Office.

The whitepaper and original code were already copyrighted by default when they were published. Initial distribution under the MIT license destroys any chance Craig Wright has of charging rent to use the Bitcoin code, as he apparently intends to do.

It almost seems like another pathetic attempt to "prove" he's Satoshi more than anything else.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2019, 11:47:25 PM
Disputes over copyright ownership are sorted out in the courts,

and that is the point, craig has a certificate naming him as the creator of a whitepaper of 2008 and a first edition version of the software in january 2009. the MIT licence was added later (someone else pointed out in another similar topic)
thus craig although a known scam artist. doesnt need to prove anything outside of court. but can for just cheap filing fee's now cause mischief by suing MIT or sourceforge or anything, using the certificate as his foot in the door... and then leave the door
open for the people he tries to sue to defend or settle.

its how scammers scam. they dont care about having real evidence to win a case in law. they just care to force others to waste time. money defending. in the hopes they dont defend. thus win by default. or they settle for low % of defense cost to just pay him to go away.

after all look what he done in the past. he managed to scam the aussie tax office for millions using only a text file of PUBLIC keys. you would be surprised what could be done with a certificate that has your name on it saying you created a whitepaper and first edition of software. that has been notorised by a government.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: squatz1 on May 22, 2019, 02:06:04 AM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.

It doesn't matter. The whitepaper and original code were already copyrighted by default when they were published. Initial distribution under the MIT license destroys any chance Craig Wright has of charging rent to use the Bitcoin code, as he apparently intends to do.

It almost seems like another pathetic attempt to "prove" he's Satoshi more than anything else.

I don't understand the rationale behind him still attempting to prove that he's Satoshi, he does it in a way that makes him look like a phony and HE IS A PHONY. He can't sign keys, can't move some funds from the initial blocks, etc, etc.

This guy is just making a fool of himself, and I hope at some point his BSV supporters notice that.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: vit05 on May 22, 2019, 02:22:21 AM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.

https://i.imgur.com/Wttdzwv.png

This is so stupid. Why does he seek so much to prove in justice that he is Satoshi? For that reason it does not prove anything more substantial, as any person who believes in cryptography would. He wants the recognition of those who have no idea what Bitcoin is. The same recognition that TV personalities receive.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: figmentofmyass on May 22, 2019, 03:11:04 AM
I don't understand the rationale behind him still attempting to prove that he's Satoshi, he does it in a way that makes him look like a phony and HE IS A PHONY. He can't sign keys, can't move some funds from the initial blocks, etc, etc.

This guy is just making a fool of himself, and I hope at some point his BSV supporters notice that.

sadly, mainstream people aren't going to research his claims and debunk them. many people will take his words at face value, particularly since the media happily plays into this sort of nonsense. those are the people wright is going after---not reasonable people who are capable of seeing through his BS.

it's still not obvious to me what his endgame is. he may just be using these stunts to pump and dump BSV, which in and of itself looks like a cash grab. unfortunately, BSV supporters are going to be biased towards whatever is good for the price.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: franky1 on May 22, 2019, 09:56:25 AM
I don't understand the rationale behind him still attempting to prove that he's Satoshi, he does it in a way that makes him look like a phony and HE IS A PHONY. He can't sign keys, can't move some funds from the initial blocks, etc, etc.

This guy is just making a fool of himself, and I hope at some point his BSV supporters notice that.

sadly, mainstream people aren't going to research his claims and debunk them. many people will take his words at face value, particularly since the media happily plays into this sort of nonsense. those are the people wright is going after---not reasonable people who are capable of seeing through his BS.

it's still not obvious to me what his endgame is. he may just be using these stunts to pump and dump BSV, which in and of itself looks like a cash grab. unfortunately, BSV supporters are going to be biased towards whatever is good for the price.

forget about his BSV. thats just the subterfuge. thats his fake 'how i make my money without scamming because blockchains are transparent".. Bsv is just a crap coin, its not going anywhere and wont be a success.. just look at the lack of merchant utility and realise its a pointless crapcoin

how he is really making fiat is from his VC investment scams, patent cease and desist scams.his end game is to not win patents using evidence of actual ownership. but to use flimsy foot in the door 'certificate' of a government document with his name on it saying he authored X to start C&D claims. knowing that without him having to fight, he makes/forces the recipient to have to defend. if they dont defend he wins by dfault. if they try to defend it costs them money, thus they usually attempt to compromise a settlement for a % of the defense costs. and thats his game
he hopes to grab as much fiat as he can to just pay off the aussie government to get them off his back.
its the typical ponzi trick. scam one to pay another to keep the second one from chasing him


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: nutildah on May 22, 2019, 10:06:23 AM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.

This is a lie. This isn't the case at all! How did nobody catch that???


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: okala on May 22, 2019, 10:07:49 AM
Trade Mark No.   Mark Text   File Date   Status   Nice Classes   Vienna Classes   Image   Picking List
E10103646    BITCOIN    07/07/2011    Registered    09 35 38 42        No image exists for Trade Mark E10103646.    
E10050466    bit coin    15/06/2011    Registered    09 38 41        Image for Trade Mark E10050466.    

One is a word mark, one has an (ugly) picture.

Both registered to Tribanne:

Applicant:
    Tibanne Co. Ltd.
    Cerulean Tower 15F 26-1 Sakuragaoka-Cho, Shibuya Tokyo, Japan, 150-8512
Representative:
    BAKER & MCKENZIE LLP
    100 New Bridge Street, London, United Kingdom, EC4V 6JA

Is this news, or were you all familiar with the word "bitcoin" now being the intellectual property of Tribanne Co. Ltd. (Mt. Gox etc.) ?
This is a news to me before now am never aware of bitcoin being register entity in the UK that is to say bitcoin is a legal entity then why then there is all this saying that bitcoin is illegal and unacceptable as a legal tender in this country?


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 22, 2019, 10:12:09 AM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.

This is a lie. This isn't the case at all! How did nobody catch that???

That "lie" will most likely be shown to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto, stay tuned.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Bulgarianhawk on May 22, 2019, 10:13:48 AM
Well, bitcoin registered as a legal entity sound like Graig Wright is a real Satoshi Nakamoto - "someone said that, but nobody know who, when, and why". There are a lot of fakes in crypto-industry, the way it happens in young industries. That's a far-fetched statement I believe.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: nutildah on May 22, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.

This is a lie. This isn't the case at all! How did nobody catch that???

That "lie" will most likely be shown to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto, stay tuned.

Don't care. Coingeek has proven themselves to be incredibly dishonest over the last half year. Craig isn't going to show up there with his approved copyright -- its not happening. His registration was just accepted days ago. He'll have another half-assed smoke-and-mirrors show for the gullible and those who want to believe.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: CryptoBry on May 22, 2019, 10:35:45 AM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.

It doesn't matter. Anyone else can have the same copyright registered as well. Disputes over copyright ownership are sorted out in the courts, not the Copyright Office. The whitepaper and original code were already copyrighted by default when they were published. Initial distribution under the MIT license destroys any chance Craig Wright has of charging rent to use the Bitcoin code, as he apparently intends to do. It almost seems like another pathetic attempt to "prove" he's Satoshi more than anything else.

The bitcoin community is looking at Craig Wright as a big joker who is restless unless the whole world will accept his notion that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and no one else. He is willing to bulldoze anyone and anything that comes in the way to his goals. Craig Wright is actually the enemy of the community. And now he is using the copyright law of USA into his side by filing the claim for the original bitcoin WhiePaper. Such a big shame because by his own very actions he is showing us that he is just another fake and can never be the man who founded and started the bitcoin movement.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: Raul Lopez on May 22, 2019, 11:01:59 AM
Trade Mark No.   Mark Text   File Date   Status   Nice Classes   Vienna Classes   Image   Picking List
E10103646    BITCOIN    07/07/2011    Registered    09 35 38 42        No image exists for Trade Mark E10103646.    
E10050466    bit coin    15/06/2011    Registered    09 38 41        Image for Trade Mark E10050466.    

One is a word mark, one has an (ugly) picture.

Both registered to Tribanne:

Applicant:
    Tibanne Co. Ltd.
    Cerulean Tower 15F 26-1 Sakuragaoka-Cho, Shibuya Tokyo, Japan, 150-8512
Representative:
    BAKER & MCKENZIE LLP
    100 New Bridge Street, London, United Kingdom, EC4V 6JA

Is this news, or were you all familiar with the word "bitcoin" now being the intellectual property of Tribanne Co. Ltd. (Mt. Gox etc.) ?

Really, is it possible? I can't believe that :(


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 22, 2019, 11:14:58 AM
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The United States Copyright Office has issued Dr. Craig Steven Wright a the copyright registration for the original Bitcoin whitepaper, which Dr. Wright originally posted online in 2008 under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.

The copyright registration was issued after the examiner at the U.S. Copyright Office was aware that the Bitcoin white paper was a “famous work” with questions about who was Satoshi Nakamoto, and only after Dr. Wright confirmed he was author of the seminal paper which started the Bitcoin revolution.

In addition to the original Bitcoin whitepaper, the U.S. Copyright Office also issued Dr. Wright a copyright registration for most of the original Bitcoin code (version 0.1 of the Bitcoin client software) which he authored.

The U.S. copyright registration certificates are:

• U.S. copyright registration no. TXu 2-136-996, effective date April 11, 2019, for the paper entitled Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System, with year of completion 2008. The registration recognizes the author as Craig Steven Wright, using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.
• U.S. copyright registration no. TX-8-708-058, effective date April 13, 2019, for computer program entitled Bitcoin, with year of completion 2009 and date of first publication January 3, 2009. The registration recognizes the author as Craig Steven Wright, using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. Wright wrote most of version 0.1 of the Bitcoin client software, and the registration covers the portions he authored.

After being involuntarily “outed” as Satoshi Nakamoto by certain media publications, Wright first come out as the creator of Bitcoin in 2016, and provided proof to several people, including Gavin Anderson former lead developer of the Bitcoin project. However, supporters of the Bitcoin Core (BTC) developer group, which had commandeered the Bitcoin project, led a successful smear campaign against Dr. Wright.

The group had hindered the original vision of Bitcoin by stifling scaling attempts and creating Layer 2 settlement networks, namely the Lighting Network, which take transactions off chain and away from what Bitcoin was meant to be. In 2017, they added the definitive fatal blow – Segregated Witness – to the Bitcoin protocol and forever changed Bitcoin from its core definition as a chain of digital signatures.

What pushed Wright to lift the Satoshi Nakamoto veil for good and now take efforts to defend his original vision for Bitcoin? It was a combination of events. First, there was the bastardization of BTC introduced by SegWit, changing Bitcoin into what BTC is today (SegWit Coin or Core Coin). Wright then chose to support Bitcoin Cash (BCH) which forked away from BTC in August 2017, with the supposed mission to restore Bitcoin’s original vision. However, after attempting to work with BCH development group Bitcoin ABC for over a year, it became clear in 2018 to Dr. Wright that BCH development groups were also deviating from the original Bitcoin protocol – by introducing significant protocol changes not included in the original design and by pursuing massive scaling as quickly as needed.

Having seen his creation bastardized not once but twice, Dr. Wright has acted to preserve his original Satoshi Vision for Bitcoin. He explains, “When I wrote the Bitcoin white paper, I uploaded it on the bitcoin.org domain so that people would start understanding bitcoin. I’ve come to understand that few people if any of taken the time to understand what is written in this paper so I have formally published it and registered it with the U.S. Copyright Office so that I can confirm my authorship and copyright ownership, and start teaching people the true meaning of what Bitcoin is about and stop people twisting the narrative.”

That twisted narrative lead to criminals, like drug dealers and money launders, to become the face of Bitcoin. The accountability and traceability that the Bitcoin blockchain provides was left on the back burner, and it was marketed to the worst elements of society. Wright could not stand for that.

“The last thing that I said to Gavin Anderson in 2011 when I handed him the control of the code was that “I wish you wouldn’t keep talking about me as a mysterious shadowy figure, the press just turns that into a pirate currency angle,” Dr. Wright recalls. “Maybe instead make it about the open source project and give more credit to your dev contributors; it helps motivate them.”

Now that Wright has legally claimed copyright ownership of the Bitcoin white paper and most of the early Bitcoin code, he’s working to ensure his creation will regain the original mission it was meant to have. “Bitcoin was designed to be honest and not another criminal coin,” he said. “It’s time for people to learn that and see that I’m (as Satoshi) not just some shady figure because I didn’t want publicity”

In the future, Wright intends to assign the copyright registrations to Bitcoin Association to hold for the benefit of the Bitcoin ecosystem. Bitcoin Association is a global industry organization for Bitcoin businesses. It supports BSV and owns the Bitcoin SV client software. Founding President Jimmy Nguyen comments:

“We are thrilled to see Craig Wright recognized as author of the landmark Bitcoin white paper and early code. Better than anyone else, Craig understands that Bitcoin was created be a massively scaled blockchain to power the world’s electronic cash for billions of people to use, and be the global data ledger for the biggest enterprise applications. We look forward to working with Craig and others to ensure his original vision is recognized as Bitcoin and is realized through BSV.”

Since the announcement Tuesday, the trolls have come out in full force, albeit in much smaller numbers than in the past. They’re trying to downplay, disparage and dismiss Dr. Wright and the US Copyright office suggesting this is “just another scam.”

The mental gymnastics these people are doing could compete with Simone Biles, but Dr. Wright has a final word on the trolls, “Importantly, if this was not real, it means I would face 20 years. If a single person could discredit me, I get an orange suit. The issue is they cannot.”

Wright has good support and wise advice by his side. His colleague Nguyen, former CEO of nChain, was a highly-regarded intellectual property and digital technology lawyer in the United States for 21 years, and is former Chair of the State Bar of California’s Intellectual Property Law Section. Commenting on public reaction to the copyright registrations, Nguyen says: “It’s amusing to watch the online trolls and critics freak out about Craig’s copyright registrations. If the registrations don’t mean anything, what are people afraid of?”

Nguyen instead focuses on the legal impact of the registrations: “Under global copyright law, Craig always held copyright ownership of the Bitcoin white paper and Bitcoin code authored since the moment he created those works and fixed them into a tangible medium of expression. Most countries do not require registration of works. But in certain countries, like the United States, an author receives additional benefits by obtaining copyright registration for his works. In this situation, what is exceptionally notable is that the U.S. Copyright Office did not rubber-stamp Craig’s copyright applications. The U.S. Copyright examiner responded far more quickly to the copyright applications than is normal – within three business days (which is extremely unusual and extremely fast) – and asked questions about applications, including recognizing that the Bitcoin white paper was a famous work and noting there were questions about who is Satoshi Nakamoto. The U.S. Copyright Office only issued the copyright registrations after Craig responded and confirmed his authorship. Contrary to what the naysayers are suggesting, the U.S. copyright registrations do carry legal weight and we look forward to working with Craig to ensure his original vision is recognized as Bitcoin and is realized through BSV.”

Dr. Wright will be attending the upcoming CoinGeek Toronto scaling conference, and will feature prominently in a Fireside chat with Jimmy Nguyen. The conversation is bound to have plenty of revelations about the early history of Bitcoin, so it will be well worth attending.


Title: Re: "Bitcoin" is now a registered trademark in the UK
Post by: squatz1 on May 22, 2019, 12:58:18 PM
I don't understand the rationale behind him still attempting to prove that he's Satoshi, he does it in a way that makes him look like a phony and HE IS A PHONY. He can't sign keys, can't move some funds from the initial blocks, etc, etc.

This guy is just making a fool of himself, and I hope at some point his BSV supporters notice that.

sadly, mainstream people aren't going to research his claims and debunk them. many people will take his words at face value, particularly since the media happily plays into this sort of nonsense. those are the people wright is going after---not reasonable people who are capable of seeing through his BS.

it's still not obvious to me what his endgame is. he may just be using these stunts to pump and dump BSV, which in and of itself looks like a cash grab. unfortunately, BSV supporters are going to be biased towards whatever is good for the price.

Thats the sad truth of the matter, the media is going to gobble this up and just throw this information into peoples faces. People is then going to think that CSW is this Satoshi figure.

Only the people who don't trust the MSM, or at least want to do their own research, is going to be able to find out the truth.

This only happens because the story of "BITCOIN CREATOR FOUND" gets a lot more clicks then "BITCOIN CREATOR STILL NOT FOUND"