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Title: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 06:30:25 AM
http://www.newsweeklied.com/
Good luck, Dorian.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 06:47:31 AM
http://www.newsweeklied.com/
Good luck, Dorian.

dorian did not start that campaign linked in OP fund. dorian doesnt even know how to set up the internet. thats why andreas antonopolous had to do for him.

secondly the bitcoin address does not match the address used in the fundraiser managed by andreas.

thirdly, the image is not new, its from the day andreas went to hand dorian the fundraiser amount from the true campaign.

fourthly the building address of the supposed lawyers (google maps) does not show an office building.. but instead residential area.

i ask everyone to not pay into this as it smells like a rotton fish.

dorian received atleast $40k value in bitcoin earlier this year and if he wanted to do some legal stuff he would post his own picture from recently. and not an old picture from some obscure media source.

seriously guys, ive seen better attempts at fraud


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 06:49:39 AM
I am pretty sure this is no fraud: http://cryptome.org/2014/10/nakamoto-defense.pdf


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: seriouscoin on October 14, 2014, 07:20:41 AM
I am pretty sure this is no fraud: http://cryptome.org/2014/10/nakamoto-defense.pdf

And i'm pretty sure, you're a bastard. Hope your dad can take the news.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 07:26:22 AM
I am pretty sure this is no fraud: http://cryptome.org/2014/10/nakamoto-defense.pdf

cryptome is no legit proof.

thats like making a scam and then paying someone at the huffington post or yahoo news to make a blog article..
the PDF is not wrote as if its from a law firm, neither is the website. there are no personal statements or legit uptodate pictures from dorian nor is any of the home addresses legit..

AGD we know this is your scam your trying to advertise. and we seriously pity you.
bitcoin is a great community with ample ways to LEGITIMATELY make a living, but it seems you have failed at a FIAT way of living, and too azy to try making a legitimate bitcoin living and resort to scamming.

you are lower than a snakes belly (virtually touching the floor) slivering around


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Elwar on October 14, 2014, 07:27:10 AM
Dorian does not want bitcoins.

He wants lunch.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tins on October 14, 2014, 07:29:08 AM
It seems to be a scam looking for unsuspecting people to donate coins thinking those are going to Dorian, but really into a scammers pocket. Mr. Nakomoto has claimed no involvement in this fund, nor receiving any benefit from it.
Stay away from this scam.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 07:43:16 AM
I am pretty sure this is no fraud: http://cryptome.org/2014/10/nakamoto-defense.pdf

cryptome is no legit proof.

thats like making a scam and then paying someone at the huffington post or yahoo news to make a blog article..
the PDF is not wrote as if its from a law firm, neither is the website. there are no personal statements or legit uptodate pictures from dorian nor is any of the home addresses legit..

AGD we know this is your scam your trying to advertise. and we seriously pity you.
bitcoin is a great community with ample ways to LEGITIMATELY make a living, but it seems you have failed at a FIAT way of living, and too azy to try making a legitimate bitcoin living and resort to scamming.

you are lower than a snakes belly (virtually touching the floor) slivering around

LOL. You are accusing me beeing a scammer, just because I post a link that I found on the interwebs? Wow... and all that conclusions about my life. You don't know shit about me, but you think you found out the truth about AGD the evil scammer? You must be pretty lonely IRL.
Anyway, your comment shows, that your conclusions are extremly far away from reality and I will treat all your postings according.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 07:46:12 AM
It seems to be a scam looking for unsuspecting people to donate coins thinking those are going to Dorian, but really into a scammers pocket. Mr. Nakomoto has claimed no involvement in this fund, nor receiving any benefit from it.
Stay away from this scam.

Source?


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tins on October 14, 2014, 07:49:32 AM
It seems to be a scam looking for unsuspecting people to donate coins thinking those are going to Dorian, but really into a scammers pocket. Mr. Nakomoto has claimed no involvement in this fund, nor receiving any benefit from it.
Stay away from this scam.

Source?

Sure.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822537.0


http://qntra.net/2014/10/newsweeklied-lied/

Quote
While Newsweek claimed that they had discovered “the face behind Bitcoin.” Dorian Nakamato denied having anything to do with it.

[...]

A little over a week ago, Newsweeklied.com, The Dorian Nakamoto Legal Defense Fund launched. However, there are a many flaws and concerns we have over the authenticity of the “legal fund.”

[...]

Although Newsweeklied.com asserts the effort is authorized and endorsed by Dorian, there is no evidence of such.[/[/u]quote]


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tins on October 14, 2014, 07:50:11 AM

So, stay away from this scam.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 08:00:54 AM
AGD
its funny how you used cryptome website as your bases of proof..

guess what, i checked your post history and you seem obsessed with referring people to look at cryptome, and even offering mirror sites when cryptome is down.

this suggests to me that you own cryptome and spent all this effort on this fraud..

when a scam is a scam, if you are innocent you should not be defending it. as it just digs a deeper hole for you.

time to report to mod that your advertising a scam


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 08:45:14 AM
It seems to be a scam looking for unsuspecting people to donate coins thinking those are going to Dorian, but really into a scammers pocket. Mr. Nakomoto has claimed no involvement in this fund, nor receiving any benefit from it.
Stay away from this scam.

Source?

Sure.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822537.0


http://qntra.net/2014/10/newsweeklied-lied/

Quote
While Newsweek claimed that they had discovered “the face behind Bitcoin.” Dorian Nakamato denied having anything to do with it.

[...]

A little over a week ago, Newsweeklied.com, The Dorian Nakamoto Legal Defense Fund launched. However, there are a many flaws and concerns we have over the authenticity of the “legal fund.”

[...]

Although Newsweeklied.com asserts the effort is authorized and endorsed by Dorian, there is no evidence of such.[/[/u]quote]

Where did Dorian state that? I can't find it.

But I found this in the same article:

Quote
It’s peculiar that contributions wouldn’t be tax deductible considering the fund is supposedly established. The fact that the webmaster included the first statement saying unlimited personal and corporate contributions are okay is odd. Andreas Antonopoulos claimed "This is in fact backed by Dorian Nakamoto." Caveat emptor.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 08:49:55 AM
AGD
its funny how you used cryptome website as your bases of proof..

guess what, i checked your post history and you seem obsessed with referring people to look at cryptome, and even offering mirror sites when cryptome is down.

this suggests to me that you own cryptome and spent all this effort on this fraud..

when a scam is a scam, if you are innocent you should not be defending it. as it just digs a deeper hole for you.

time to report to mod that your advertising a scam

You don't seem to realize that you are making yourself a clown by posting this bs and even more by reporting this to the mods, but go ahead and tell them them that you found out that Mr John Young from cryptome.org is a scammer. They will have some fun with your accusations for sure.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tins on October 14, 2014, 09:03:49 AM
It seems to be a scam looking for unsuspecting people to donate coins thinking those are going to Dorian, but really into a scammers pocket. Mr. Nakomoto has claimed no involvement in this fund, nor receiving any benefit from it.
Stay away from this scam.

Source?

Sure.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822537.0


http://qntra.net/2014/10/newsweeklied-lied/

Quote
While Newsweek claimed that they had discovered “the face behind Bitcoin.” Dorian Nakamato denied having anything to do with it.

[...]

A little over a week ago, Newsweeklied.com, The Dorian Nakamoto Legal Defense Fund launched. However, there are a many flaws and concerns we have over the authenticity of the “legal fund.”

[...]

Although Newsweeklied.com asserts the effort is authorized and endorsed by Dorian, there is no evidence of such.[/[/u]quote]

Where did Dorian state that? I can't find it.


Where did Dorian Nakomoto state that Newsweeklied.com is giving him these funds they are collecting on his behalf? Nowhere.
That's the point and what likely makes it a scam.
Chances are that whoever created this will keep all the BTC they collect.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
It seems to be a scam looking for unsuspecting people to donate coins thinking those are going to Dorian, but really into a scammers pocket. Mr. Nakomoto has claimed no involvement in this fund, nor receiving any benefit from it.
Stay away from this scam.

Source?

Sure.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822537.0


http://qntra.net/2014/10/newsweeklied-lied/

Quote
While Newsweek claimed that they had discovered “the face behind Bitcoin.” Dorian Nakamato denied having anything to do with it.

[...]

A little over a week ago, Newsweeklied.com, The Dorian Nakamoto Legal Defense Fund launched. However, there are a many flaws and concerns we have over the authenticity of the “legal fund.”

[...]

Although Newsweeklied.com asserts the effort is authorized and endorsed by Dorian, there is no evidence of such.[/[/u]quote]

Where did Dorian state that? I can't find it.


Where did Dorian Nakomoto state that Newsweeklied.com is giving him these funds they are collecting on his behalf? Nowhere.
That's the point and what likely makes it a scam.
Chances are that whoever created this will keep all the BTC they collect.

Thats right, he would be better off making a video where he should state that if it was legit. Maybe he thought, that cryptome's reputation was enough, because John Young usually doesn't post stuff on his site without checking. We will certainly read more about this.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Lethn on October 14, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
Looks fake as fuck, where's Andreas Andriopoulos in all this? He was definitely there when the guy first got harassed by newsweek and other reporters so I'd wait for his word before I trust anything this website has to say.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: TrailingComet on October 14, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
Good luck, indeed. The media screwed him over badly. He deserves justice. All the best, dorian.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 10:52:36 AM
@frankie1

Look how far my scam already went, Sherlock. I posted it on my other sites newsbtc and nzz.ch and I will later post it on my other sites wikileaks.org, fbi.gov and microsoft.com. Hmm I think I'll ask my friends of cryptogeeks.com and slashgear.com to support my scam, too. Check it later.

http://newsbtc.com/2014/10/13/newsweek-satoshi-dorian-nakamoto/
http://www.nzz.ch/mehr/digital/vermeintlicher-bitcoin-erfinder-nakamoto-verklagt-newsweek-1.18403527
http://www.nutech.nl/internet/3902702/bitcoinuitvinder-klaagt-newsweek-onjuist-verhaal.html

Edit:

http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-news-mash-nakamoto-revenge-new-gyft-card-46973
http://www.slashgear.com/dorian-nakamoto-starts-legal-fund-to-sue-newsweek-14350528/
http://www.cnet.com/news/dorian-nakamoto-solicits-donations-to-sue-newsweek/
http://www.coindesk.com/dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newseek-claims/
http://cryptogeeks.com/bitcoin-dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newsweek-claims


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: buybtc on October 14, 2014, 11:03:28 AM
Wow they are accepting bitcoin donations, what a surprise


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: turvarya on October 14, 2014, 11:24:05 AM
@frankie1

Look how far my scam already went, Sherlock. I posted it on my other sites newsbtc and nzz.ch and I will later post it on my other sites wikileaks.org, fbi.gov and microsoft.com. Hmm I think I'll ask my friends of cryptogeeks.com and slashgear.com to support my scam, too. Check it later.

http://newsbtc.com/2014/10/13/newsweek-satoshi-dorian-nakamoto/
http://www.nzz.ch/mehr/digital/vermeintlicher-bitcoin-erfinder-nakamoto-verklagt-newsweek-1.18403527
http://www.nutech.nl/internet/3902702/bitcoinuitvinder-klaagt-newsweek-onjuist-verhaal.html

Edit:

http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-news-mash-nakamoto-revenge-new-gyft-card-46973
http://www.slashgear.com/dorian-nakamoto-starts-legal-fund-to-sue-newsweek-14350528/
http://www.cnet.com/news/dorian-nakamoto-solicits-donations-to-sue-newsweek/
http://www.coindesk.com/dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newseek-claims/
http://cryptogeeks.com/bitcoin-dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newsweek-claims
That doesn't really proof anything, since people often just copy stories from others sites without checking the facts.
And seriously, your effort here is just too big for something you randomly found on the internet.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 11:30:38 AM
defend your scam as much as you like, it just makes you look worse.

at first i was just calling that site a scam, but then the more you defend it, and post links to all the crapedia (crap media no one cares about ) the more i see your trying to highlight it for some personal reason.

put it this way.
dorian has a well publicized story, and many many many lawyers would jump at the chance should dorian want to leave is humble, low profile life for a second time and jump back into the lime light of a media frenzy (which i dont think he wants to do)
if he are only suing to get media to leave him alone, the last thing he would do is jump into the media's target zone again.

and it seems dorian, who is savvi enough to only talk to media for a free lunch. would of chosen a "no win no fee" lawyer.. so there would be no upfront costs.

nothing about that website seems legit, and by people like the OP blasting it across every crapedia there is to try getting the owner of that domain some coins. then you have to ask yourself whats in it for the ones highlighting it??


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: blatchcorn on October 14, 2014, 11:33:30 AM
Sounds like the only 'scammer' around here is the lawyer: http://www.businessinsider.com/dorian-nakamoto-is-accepting-donations-to-sue-newsweek-over-allegations-that-he-created-bitcoin-2014-10


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: DeboraMeeks on October 14, 2014, 11:34:01 AM
I am sure this is a fraud made by the lawyer or even some unknown to try and peddle in much more btc. S.O.Y.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: BitCoinDream on October 14, 2014, 11:40:16 AM
http://www.newsweeklied.com/
Good luck, Dorian.

http://static.squarespace.com/static/542ee5e7e4b0b0d7b5e23cc5/t/543ad69be4b0075aa786235c/1413142181427/pleasedonate.jpg?format=500w

I like the owl in Satoshi's background ;)


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 12:07:14 PM
just looking up the lawyer now..

and i dont mean the law firm at
215 W. 6th Street Suite 1014 Los Angeles, CA 90014 (213) 935-0250
which is a proper law firm.. but not the address listed in the donation drive...



but the supposed law firm, which is listed in the link (think its just a name copy) at
1100 Echo Park Ave, Los Angeles, CA, United States (residential estate)

have you even seen this fools website:
http://www.kirschnerlawoffice.com/
(copyright 2009)

has these reviews
http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/law-office-of-ethan-d-kirschner-los-angeles
Quote
DO NOT HIRE this guy to represent you! He NEVER returns calls, texts, or emails, worst attorney ever! This guy is a real joke! He lost all my file and sent me to go look through my sent emails to find the emails I sent him. After 8 months he still hadn't filed a complaint for my case in court and he was asking for money, money for what? He lost my file and still hadn't filed my case. Man seriously this Ethan is a real joke and I'm turning him into the bar! A good attorney would keep all emails to and from their client but not Ethan! Most answers to questions I asked were let me get back to you I'm not sure and then he NEVER got back to me I'd have to text or call him a few times b4 he did respond. He is so unorganized and  unprofessional it's crazy how he passed the bar.



Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 12:09:30 PM

i like the owl too but its a shame the image was from andreas antonopolis fundraiser of spring this year(the proper fundraiser) and not a recent picture from this autumn/fall


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Febo on October 14, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
lol,

it seems this forum is really fast to detect any kind of scammers. 


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
defend your scam as much as you like, it just makes you look worse.

at first i was just calling that site a scam, but then the more you defend it, and post links to all the crapedia (crap media no one cares about ) the more i see your trying to highlight it for some personal reason.

put it this way.
dorian has a well publicized story, and many many many lawyers would jump at the chance should dorian want to leave is humble, low profile life for a second time and jump back into the lime light of a media frenzy (which i dont think he wants to do)
if he are only suing to get media to leave him alone, the last thing he would do is jump into the media's target zone again.

and it seems dorian, who is savvi enough to only talk to media for a free lunch. would of chosen a "no win no fee" lawyer.. so there would be no upfront costs.

nothing about that website seems legit, and by people like the OP blasting it across every crapedia there is to try getting the owner of that domain some coins. then you have to ask yourself whats in it for the ones highlighting it??

Hahaha. You really believe that I am spreading the news on sites like pcworld.com, business-insider, cnet.com and coindesk and alot more to make money with donations and I own cryptome.org? Did you already contact the mods to stop me with my huge scam?

Edit: Another crap media site has more news on this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2828712/dorian-nakamoto-prepares-for-possible-lawsuit-against-newsweek.html

Quote
In an email, a staffer for Los Angeles lawyer Ethan Kirschner confirmed he is representing Nakamoto in the effort.

“If a private citizen like Mr. Nakamoto can be targeted and victimized by a reckless news organization, it could happen to others,” Kirschner said in a release that also confirmed that Nakomoto had set up the fund.

“Mr. Nakamoto’s claim against Newsweek will also remind the journalism community of their continuing legal and ethical responsibilities to the broader public.”

Frankie1, your research is crap and your accusations are all plain bullshit. You can stop with it now before I report YOU to the mods for your false accusations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptome


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 01:02:16 PM
Sounds like the only 'scammer' around here is the lawyer: http://www.businessinsider.com/dorian-nakamoto-is-accepting-donations-to-sue-newsweek-over-allegations-that-he-created-bitcoin-2014-10

You mean he is a scammer because he is defending Dorian Nakamoto vs Newsweek or do you have other insider informations????
I hope he wins and becomes a millionare.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: pawel7777 on October 14, 2014, 01:04:09 PM
This whole fundraiser is a bullshit.
Putting all the above arguments aside (bad reputation of attorney, possible fraud attempt). Basically they're asking for the community to pay the firm's fees.

Quote
"A lawsuit against Newsweek will be very expensive," the website, created by the law firm of Kirschner and Associates, says. "Dorian does not have the resources to pay the costs of such a suit, let alone attorneys' fees. Monies raised by the Fund will be used to further Dorian's legal claims against Newsweek; anything remaining will be given directly to Dorian for his expenses."

If they believe he has a solid chance of winning, why not provide a service on 'no win-no fee' basis. You hear all the time about some poor bastards suing big companies over some bullshit...

What's actually 'very expensive' here, other than attorney's cost/fees?

This case will grab some media attention (or already did) so it's a free advertisement for any firm representing Dorian.

Whether this is a fraud attempt or not, I hope Newsweek gets sued (by a proper law firm).


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: yayayo on October 14, 2014, 01:17:42 PM
I don't know what to think about this. What surprises me is that this legal initiative comes so late.

If it's not a scam, it's bad timing. Such a donation campaign would have easily worked out shortly after the events. Now I'm not so sure.


ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: n0rBit on October 14, 2014, 02:09:10 PM
Dorian does not want bitcoins.

He wants lunch.

LOL.. Dorian wants sushi.  ;D


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
seeing as im just laughing at AGD, trying desperately to get people to donate to his advertised link. i thought since he can't actually show proof beyond his news posts, which he sends to the editor email accounts. i thought id show an image which would have sold it to me to atleast has some comical merit to being a recent decision for dorian to want to suddenly get into the lime light.


https://i.imgur.com/HCu900F.png


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 02:49:15 PM
Wow you still didn't understand, that this site and funding has nothing to do with me and I am not the owner of cryptome.org nor of newsweeklied.com.
Your stupidity really amazes me.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
Wow you still didn't understand, that this site and funding has nothing to do with me and I am not the owner of cryptome.org nor of newsweeklied.com.
Your stupidity really amazes me.

my first reply to you never called you a scammer.. but as soon as you defended it, the way scammers defend their hard work, made me assume you were behind it.. even now all you can do is insult people while continuing to defend something that has too many loose threads..

basically, next time dont just read a news article and post it. atleast read it, think about it and look into how plausible it sounds. and then when other find flaws just reply "dont kill the messenger" as its a known correlation that when a scam is posted on the forum, its usually the poster thats the first suspect.

even in crimes like injury or murder, the first suspect is usually the one that gets very emotionally defensive (closest family/relative/spouse)


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Marduk on October 14, 2014, 03:25:27 PM
Well it did seem like a scam at first.  However I read one of the links OP posted:

http://www.coindesk.com/dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newseek-claims/

There's a tweet linked there from Andreas Antonopoulos and he says it's legit.  The article says he spoke with him recently.

The lawyer seems pretty sketchy though...


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Lethn on October 14, 2014, 03:41:09 PM
If Andreas is giving the okay then I suppose it's alright then but I'll be watching.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tzortz on October 14, 2014, 04:02:51 PM
Surprised with Andreas post.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tins on October 14, 2014, 04:03:32 PM
Well it did seem like a scam at first.  However I read one of the links OP posted:

http://www.coindesk.com/dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newseek-claims/

There's a tweet linked there from Andreas Antonopoulos and he says it's legit.  The article says he spoke with him recently.

The lawyer seems pretty sketchy though...

Andreas already set up a Bitcoin address for Dorian Nakomoto. Why would this site ask people to send their bitcoin donations to a different one than the one he set up for Dorian?
Most of it sounds plausible, but that whole new bitcoin address seems...doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 04:20:57 PM
Wow you still didn't understand, that this site and funding has nothing to do with me and I am not the owner of cryptome.org nor of newsweeklied.com.
Your stupidity really amazes me.

my first reply to you never called you a scammer.. but as soon as you defended it, the way scammers defend their hard work, made me assume you were behind it.. even now all you can do is insult people while continuing to defend something that has too many loose threads..

basically, next time dont just read a news article and post it. atleast read it, think about it and look into how plausible it sounds. and then when other find flaws just reply "dont kill the messenger" as its a known correlation that when a scam is posted on the forum, its usually the poster thats the first suspect.

even in crimes like injury or murder, the first suspect is usually the one that gets very emotionally defensive (closest family/relative/spouse)

You were completely wrong and you don't have the guts to simply admit it.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on October 14, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
Dorian does not want bitcoins.

He wants lunch.
Is Dorian the japanese guy that supossedly was Satoshi Nakamoto but wasn't? What is OP trying to do, profit on a rumor?


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: CryptoCarmen on October 14, 2014, 04:38:45 PM
Dorian does not want bitcoins.

He wants lunch.
Is Dorian the japanese guy that supossedly was Satoshi Nakamoto but wasn't? What is OP trying to do, profit on a rumor?

Why dont you read all posts in this thread and see the story?


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 14, 2014, 05:21:46 PM
WOW AGD.. you are so defensive about this post.

answering everyone's argument about legitimacy and at the same time claiming you have nothing to do with it.

IT IS VERY CLEAR AGD IS BEHIND THE SITE AND FAKE FUND.

PATHETIC SCAMMER! hope you rot in your mothers basement.

Sorry you are late with your conclusion, buddy. Franky1 already has found out, that I am John Young, owner of cryptome.org and I am using my site to scam people. PM him for more delicate details about my life. He knows everything.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 07:35:31 PM
WOW AGD.. you are so defensive about this post.

answering everyone's argument about legitimacy and at the same time claiming you have nothing to do with it.

IT IS VERY CLEAR AGD IS BEHIND THE SITE AND FAKE FUND.

PATHETIC SCAMMER! hope you rot in your mothers basement.

Sorry you are late with your conclusion, buddy. Franky1 already has found out, that I am John Young, owner of cryptome.org and I am using my site to scam people. PM him for more delicate details about my life. He knows everything.

no need to PM me. its all been said publicly.

yea before suspecting you i did atleast check you out.. but to be honest its your emotional attachment to endlessly defend the links your post as being legit, which makes you look worse,


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: FattyMcButterpants on October 15, 2014, 03:46:32 AM
Sounds like the only 'scammer' around here is the lawyer: http://www.businessinsider.com/dorian-nakamoto-is-accepting-donations-to-sue-newsweek-over-allegations-that-he-created-bitcoin-2014-10

You mean he is a scammer because he is defending Dorian Nakamoto vs Newsweek or do you have other insider informations????
I hope he wins and becomes a millionare.
I would consider the attorney to be a scammer. It is pretty rare that attorneys will attempt to crowd-fund a legal "defense" fund for someone when they are suing another company like this. It is much more common for attorneys to work on a contingent fee basis that would allow them to get paid only if they win the case or if the case is settled out of court (they are usually entitled to more then the standard 1/3 of damages and will also be reimbursed for any costs they incur out of the settlement).

I would say that his attorney had doubts as to if he can win a case but wants to take it on anyway because he thinks the bitcoin community will fund the cost of litigation.

I also think the legal theory behind a potential lawsuit against newsweek is dubious at best. I certainly do not agree with how newsweek handled the situation, is an example of poor investigative journalism, however is certainly not an example of a tort against Dorian.

The fact that Dorian is wiling to attempt to pursue such a lawsuit is, in my eyes proof that he is not Satashi as I would think that Satashi would be able to clearly see that this is not a valid case.

I also find it strange that money is being raised for a "defense" fund when Dorian is not putting on a defense but rather is filing a lawsuit.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 15, 2014, 06:27:59 AM
WOW AGD.. you are so defensive about this post.

answering everyone's argument about legitimacy and at the same time claiming you have nothing to do with it.

IT IS VERY CLEAR AGD IS BEHIND THE SITE AND FAKE FUND.

PATHETIC SCAMMER! hope you rot in your mothers basement.

Sorry you are late with your conclusion, buddy. Franky1 already has found out, that I am John Young, owner of cryptome.org and I am using my site to scam people. PM him for more delicate details about my life. He knows everything.

no need to PM me. its all been said publicly.

yea before suspecting you i did atleast check you out.. but to be honest its your emotional attachment to endlessly defend the links your post as being legit, which makes you look worse,

Franky1, you made yourself a clown already and you still don't get it. Don't make it worse with your ridiculous comments.
Next time when you read something on the net, first check, if it could be legit before you accuse somebody to be a scammer and a low life.

OffTopicCliffs:

- I post a link to Dorian Nakamotos/Lawers funding website
- Franky1 thinks its fake and a scam
- I post another link to a file on crptome.org to verify that it looks legit to me
- Franky1 offenses me and accuses me beeing a scammer and the owner of cryptome.org (famous freedom of speech website since 1996. Owner: John Young)
- Big press worldwide already released the story about Dorian and his defense fund, but Franky1 still thinks its all a scam/fake and that I am the head behind it. He even thinks that I am the one who is sending the news to sites like coinbase, cnet, nzz, spiegel and calls them all "crap media"
- Later Franky1 realizes, that he was completely wrong, but is unable to admit it. Instead he is making me responsible for his foolish comments.








Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tss on October 15, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
WOW AGD.. you are so defensive about this post.

answering everyone's argument about legitimacy and at the same time claiming you have nothing to do with it.

IT IS VERY CLEAR AGD IS BEHIND THE SITE AND FAKE FUND.

PATHETIC SCAMMER! hope you rot in your mothers basement.

Sorry you are late with your conclusion, buddy. Franky1 already has found out, that I am John Young, owner of cryptome.org and I am using my site to scam people. PM him for more delicate details about my life. He knows everything.

no need to PM me. its all been said publicly.

yea before suspecting you i did atleast check you out.. but to be honest its your emotional attachment to endlessly defend the links your post as being legit, which makes you look worse,

Franky1, you made yourself a clown already and you still don't get it. Don't make it worse with your ridiculous comments.
Next time when you read something on the net, first check, if it could be legit before you accuse somebody to be a scammer and a low life.

OffTopicCliffs:

- I post a link to Dorian Nakamotos/Lawers funding website
- Franky1 thinks its fake and a scam
- I post another link to a file on crptome.org to verify that it looks legit to me
- Franky1 offenses me and accuses me beeing a scammer and the owner of cryptome.org (famous freedom of speech website since 1996. Owner: John Young)
- Big press worldwide already released the story about Dorian and his defense fund, but Franky1 still thinks its all a scam/fake and that I am the head behind it. He even thinks that I am the one who is sending the news to sites like coinbase, cnet, nzz, spiegel and calls them all "crap media"
- Later Franky1 realizes, that he was completely wrong, but is unable to admit it. Instead he is making me responsible for his foolish comments.







SEE.. I DELETED MY POST!  (within less than 3 minutes) and yet the OP still quote me.   i was hesitant after i did my own searching, but the OP's anxiety to respond made it irresistible for me to believe it's a scam.

i may be wrong but it still feels weird due to op's behavior. 


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: turvarya on October 15, 2014, 06:53:01 AM
WOW AGD.. you are so defensive about this post.

answering everyone's argument about legitimacy and at the same time claiming you have nothing to do with it.

IT IS VERY CLEAR AGD IS BEHIND THE SITE AND FAKE FUND.

PATHETIC SCAMMER! hope you rot in your mothers basement.

Sorry you are late with your conclusion, buddy. Franky1 already has found out, that I am John Young, owner of cryptome.org and I am using my site to scam people. PM him for more delicate details about my life. He knows everything.

no need to PM me. its all been said publicly.

yea before suspecting you i did atleast check you out.. but to be honest its your emotional attachment to endlessly defend the links your post as being legit, which makes you look worse,

Franky1, you made yourself a clown already and you still don't get it. Don't make it worse with your ridiculous comments.
Next time when you read something on the net, first check, if it could be legit before you accuse somebody to be a scammer and a low life.

OffTopicCliffs:

- I post a link to Dorian Nakamotos/Lawers funding website
- Franky1 thinks its fake and a scam
- I post another link to a file on crptome.org to verify that it looks legit to me
- Franky1 offenses me and accuses me beeing a scammer and the owner of cryptome.org (famous freedom of speech website since 1996. Owner: John Young)
- Big press worldwide already released the story about Dorian and his defense fund, but Franky1 still thinks its all a scam/fake and that I am the head behind it. He even thinks that I am the one who is sending the news to sites like coinbase, cnet, nzz, spiegel and calls them all "crap media"
- Later Franky1 realizes, that he was completely wrong, but is unable to admit it. Instead he is making me responsible for his foolish comments.
franky1 is right about, that you acted like a scammer and we still can't know, if you are associated with Kirschner & Associates. How did you even find that site?

I wouldn't send a single Satoshi to this adress for reasons already mentioned here.
Even when Dorian is behind it, it seems like some law firm is trying to take advantage  of him, which pretty much confirms, that he is not SN, but some really naiv person. They most probably baited him with promises of fame and money.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: AGD on October 15, 2014, 09:07:20 AM
WOW AGD.. you are so defensive about this post.

answering everyone's argument about legitimacy and at the same time claiming you have nothing to do with it.

IT IS VERY CLEAR AGD IS BEHIND THE SITE AND FAKE FUND.

PATHETIC SCAMMER! hope you rot in your mothers basement.

Sorry you are late with your conclusion, buddy. Franky1 already has found out, that I am John Young, owner of cryptome.org and I am using my site to scam people. PM him for more delicate details about my life. He knows everything.

no need to PM me. its all been said publicly.

yea before suspecting you i did atleast check you out.. but to be honest its your emotional attachment to endlessly defend the links your post as being legit, which makes you look worse,

Franky1, you made yourself a clown already and you still don't get it. Don't make it worse with your ridiculous comments.
Next time when you read something on the net, first check, if it could be legit before you accuse somebody to be a scammer and a low life.

OffTopicCliffs:

- I post a link to Dorian Nakamotos/Lawers funding website
- Franky1 thinks its fake and a scam
- I post another link to a file on crptome.org to verify that it looks legit to me
- Franky1 offenses me and accuses me beeing a scammer and the owner of cryptome.org (famous freedom of speech website since 1996. Owner: John Young)
- Big press worldwide already released the story about Dorian and his defense fund, but Franky1 still thinks its all a scam/fake and that I am the head behind it. He even thinks that I am the one who is sending the news to sites like coinbase, cnet, nzz, spiegel and calls them all "crap media"
- Later Franky1 realizes, that he was completely wrong, but is unable to admit it. Instead he is making me responsible for his foolish comments.
franky1 is right about, that you acted like a scammer and we still can't know, if you are associated with Kirschner & Associates. How did you even find that site?

I wouldn't send a single Satoshi to this adress for reasons already mentioned here.
Even when Dorian is behind it, it seems like some law firm is trying to take advantage  of him, which pretty much confirms, that he is not SN, but some really naiv person. They most probably baited him with promises of fame and money.

You might be right with your conclusion about Dorian and Kirschner, but that I am associated with them is wrong and makes no sense. Where did I act like a scammer anyway? Just because I posted the second link to cryptome to verify that the link I posted was legit? Because right after that Franky1 called me a scammer and a low life and even thought I was the owner of cryptome, which is the most ridicolous bullshit I heard in a long time.
I simply found this link on cryptome, checked it and then I posted it, because it is bitcoin related.

As you think Frank1 is right, you also might think that I am the owner of cryptome, who is using his freedom of speech site to scam donators in the name of Dorian Nakamoto. This is worth a new topic in "Speculation" ...


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Deesomes on October 15, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
Well it did seem like a scam at first.  However I read one of the links OP posted:

http://www.coindesk.com/dorian-nakamoto-launches-legal-fund-refute-newseek-claims/

There's a tweet linked there from Andreas Antonopoulos and he says it's legit.  The article says he spoke with him recently.

The lawyer seems pretty sketchy though...

If Andreas is giving the okay then I suppose it's alright then but I'll be watching.

The quote that Andreas substantiated this is not true, look at his Twitter.

https://twitter.com/aantonop


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: Lethn on October 15, 2014, 09:58:26 AM
Bah, well, guess we'll wait and see what happens then.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: turvarya on October 15, 2014, 10:12:01 AM
"@DanielJonss @DorianSatoshi It may however be a scam by the lawyer against Dorian. I am highly suspicious of the intentions of the lawyer"
https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/521854456829186048

So, Andreas supports our suspicions.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: yatsey87 on October 15, 2014, 10:22:32 AM
"@DanielJonss @DorianSatoshi It may however be a scam by the lawyer against Dorian. I am highly suspicious of the intentions of the lawyer"
https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/521854456829186048

So, Andreas supports our suspicions.

This looked dodgy to me from the get go. Hope this isn't true about the lawyer as that is very sketchy. Hopefully he isn't just trying to take advantage of Dorian. I hope he doesnt get him involved in a costly legal case that he could lose.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: BitcoinzB on October 15, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Wish him good luck, probably just a victim of press


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: CryptoCarmen on October 15, 2014, 02:05:41 PM
SEE.. I DELETED MY POST!  (within less than 3 minutes) and yet the OP still quote me.   i was hesitant after i did my own searching, but the OP's anxiety to respond made it irresistible for me to believe it's a scam.

i may be wrong but it still feels weird due to op's behavior. 

So maybe next time you will be more careful. Hopefully.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: tss on October 17, 2014, 07:04:29 PM
SEE.. I DELETED MY POST!  (within less than 3 minutes) and yet the OP still quote me.   i was hesitant after i did my own searching, but the OP's anxiety to respond made it irresistible for me to believe it's a scam.

i may be wrong but it still feels weird due to op's behavior. 

So maybe next time you will be more careful. Hopefully.

not really. 
the fact that he couldn't wait to quote me made me even more suspicious that this, in fact, IS A SCAM.


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: CryptoCarmen on October 17, 2014, 08:53:48 PM
SEE.. I DELETED MY POST!  (within less than 3 minutes) and yet the OP still quote me.   i was hesitant after i did my own searching, but the OP's anxiety to respond made it irresistible for me to believe it's a scam.

i may be wrong but it still feels weird due to op's behavior. 

So maybe next time you will be more careful. Hopefully.

not really. 
the fact that he couldn't wait to quote me made me even more suspicious that this, in fact, IS A SCAM.

You have any other proves beside guys quote?


Title: Re: DORIAN NAKAMOTO LAUNCHES LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AT WWW.NEWSWEEKLIED.COM
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 17, 2014, 10:34:08 PM
http://www.newsweeklied.com/
Good luck, Dorian.

+1 good luck to Dorian Nakamoto (http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/dorian-nakamoto-story-btc-price.html).