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Title: Bearwhale, again
Post by: Joe200 on October 15, 2014, 01:19:38 PM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?





Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: spazzdla on October 15, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
An IPO you idiots funded with millions in wealth knowing all of those funds would be dumped onto the market at one point...



Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: Joe200 on October 15, 2014, 05:48:00 PM
You mean eharmony, or whatever they are called?  :) :) They didn't have to dump. Why would they have to dump?

How many coins did they have? Do they have any more?


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: MrBig on October 15, 2014, 05:56:56 PM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: coinableS on October 15, 2014, 06:04:26 PM

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


+1


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: fewcoins on October 15, 2014, 09:57:55 PM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


+2


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: Carra23 on October 15, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
You mean eharmony, or whatever they are called?  :) :) They didn't have to dump. Why would they have to dump?

How many coins did they have? Do they have any more?

Or Ethereum. They have enough to spend a life of luxury on some beach and make anybody remotely known to them filthy rich. Maybe they panicked when they saw the dream yacht slipping away.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: derpinheimer on October 15, 2014, 11:01:44 PM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


+2

+3. No better time to offload ahuge stack of btc than during downtrend. Not for top dollar, but for ease of finding the demand for them.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: exocytosis on October 16, 2014, 12:23:25 AM
It was Tim Draper.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: WeGotCactus on October 16, 2014, 12:32:02 AM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?


Plenty of explanations. One of them:

A large off-exchange buyer has a contract with a large mining operation to buy their coins. The contract is so big that it makes sense for the buyer to manipulate price with 30k coins. Maybe they lose X,000  coins worth of value by dumping in that fashion, but gain Y,000 by being able to make their large off market purchase at a lower price.

No, they didn't buy all of their own coins. They had to eat through the order book to move price.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: BillyBobZorton on October 16, 2014, 11:56:38 AM
Mr Vitalik is on it's way to buy another lambo. Jakes on you.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: jjacob on October 17, 2014, 01:32:58 AM
It was Tim Draper.

Ha ha.... He sure didn't get his bitcoins that cheap.  :)


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: fewcoins on October 21, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
It was Tim Draper.

Ha ha.... He sure didn't get his bitcoins that cheap.  :)

You'd be surprised what price he got it at the same way you'll be amazed at what price miners pay for a coin...


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: Kimowa on October 22, 2014, 12:03:54 AM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


+2

+3. No better time to offload ahuge stack of btc than during downtrend. Not for top dollar, but for ease of finding the demand for them.

+4. No wonder price is going lower and lower..


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: unrealistic on October 22, 2014, 06:20:22 AM
That can be true indeed.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: Brmaster on October 22, 2014, 08:33:20 AM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


I don't thibk crazy people who is so much to bearwhale again


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: porcupine87 on October 22, 2014, 09:25:26 AM
- Who would be crazy enough to send 30K coins to an exchange? After all the countless hacks and losses? No one.

Conclusion: the coins belonged to Bitstamp or some close to Bitstamp.

- Why would anyone sell now, at the low? Bears had all year to sell. They had plenty of opportunity to sell at higher prices. HODLers don't sell -- they just buy "cheap" coins.

There is no reason to sell now, unless you have to. No one "has to" sell 30K coins.

Conclusion: The coins were not sold. The seller bought all or most of the coins.

- If both of the above are true, then why?

Generate excitement / more trading volume / more commissions? Create a bullish setup -- "we just defeated the bearwhale, go bulls!"? Why else?


After declining prices for a year who would risk it and hold such a bunch of coins? I mean: I mean with that kind of money one could make 50-100 grands just out of interest. The Bitcoin price might be at $1 in a year. Maybe at 10 000$. Noone knows.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: negafen on October 22, 2014, 10:31:28 AM
Thought someone going to claim manbearpig for the latest price correction.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: Jamacn on October 23, 2014, 05:46:00 AM

- There are a lot of crazy people in bitcoin.
- There is no guarantee that this is the low.


right!
the monent price is falling again.


Title: Re: Bearwhale, again
Post by: unpure on October 23, 2014, 10:33:54 AM
The selling now is mostly coming from whale. Hard to see how a few small time holders can cause price to fall back this much.