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Title: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: testerman on October 15, 2014, 02:29:08 PM

Which android/ios btc wallet application are you using?

are they trustworthy? User friendly?


I am looking forward an application , which is safe and user friendly for storing,receiving, sending my btc..


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: RustyNomad on October 15, 2014, 02:36:43 PM
Personally making use of MyCelium on Android (No iOS app yet). The new HD version was released this past week.

Tried many others but settled on MyCelium as I like what it offers.

In regards to safety..... They all say their wallets are safe and maybe they are. I would however have sleepless nights with all my coins lying in a phone wallet. I never keep more than around 0.5 in my phone wallet. Rest is kept offline and moved to the phone as required.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: IIOII on October 15, 2014, 02:52:50 PM
In regards to safety..... They all say their wallets are safe and maybe they are. I would however have sleepless nights with all my coins lying in a phone wallet. I never keep more than around 0.5 in my phone wallet. Rest is kept offline and moved to the phone as required.

Yes, don't keep more on your phone wallet than you expect to need. Use it the same way like you would use an ordinary wallet.

Even if the wallet implementation might be safe, your phone may still be unsafe because of the platform itself. Also it might be stolen. Offline storage is the only resonably safe way to store larger amounts of Bitcoin.

Apart from that, mycelium is a good choice.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: newflesh on October 15, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
Yeah regardless of what security an app promises, they should be treated like 'hot' wallets and not long term storage.

I've used Hive before, been meaning to check out Mycelium as they've had pretty good reviews.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: testerman on October 15, 2014, 03:02:08 PM
how about blockchain wallet ?

it has a feature of, 4 digit pin code , and 2fa which is sms code verification.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: TheMasterKey on October 15, 2014, 03:12:34 PM
blockchain wallet seems to be more secured.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: OnkelPaul on October 15, 2014, 03:31:26 PM
Mycelium - it works well even on my really dated Android 2.3 phone and is being improved continually.

But even though this wallet has superb backup features, I would not keep much more BTC on a smartphone than I would carry equivalent EUR in my physical wallet.

Onkel Paul


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: justusranvier on October 15, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
how about blockchain wallet ?

it has a feature of, 4 digit pin code , and 2fa which is sms code verification.
Don't use the Blockchain wallet.

It reuses addresses by default, which means you have no privacy.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: howhardcanitbe on October 15, 2014, 03:54:48 PM
I use the blockchain wallet, however I'm still looking for one that seems the LEAST like a real wallet.

I mean the way things could go south would be if a thief knew what to do with the app when he found it. I imagine some thieves might not know about bitcoin but if they saw an app that said "blah blah WALLET" then they're going to think money, something worth cracking, etc.

Someone should make an obscurely named wallet.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: runam0k on October 15, 2014, 04:02:37 PM
Don't use the Blockchain wallet.

It reuses addresses by default, which means you have no privacy.
Must admit, I didn't care about new addresses per transaction, but in Mycelium, at least, it's all handled seamlessly.  I already take it for granted - in the space of a week! - and now I think, why not have that added level of privacy?

A few general points about Mycelium:

- great back-up feature
- option of PIN protection, so losing the phone should not be an issue
- apps generally are sandboxed, so arguably safer than the wallet on your PC (we're still talking about hot wallets, of course, not your life savings)
- the trading app within Mycelium is a nice bonus


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: james martin on October 15, 2014, 04:57:09 PM
I used Blockchain.  It also has more basic and very useful features like displaying a list of your transactions, and a PIN lock to make sure nobody accesses your wallet. You can also pick a fiat currency to display on the main screen of the app to show what your bitcoin balance is worth.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: petahashminer on October 15, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
in this digital world,

never trust anything, unless you write the code..


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: HeroCat on October 15, 2014, 07:07:47 PM
Currently I do not see any safe telephone wallet - that is the main problem.
May be in the future  ;)


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Monkeynutz on October 15, 2014, 07:34:58 PM
+1 for blockchain


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: 2double0 on October 15, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
how about blockchain wallet ?

it has a feature of, 4 digit pin code , and 2fa which is sms code verification.
Don't use the Blockchain wallet.

It reuses addresses by default, which means you have no privacy.

Many people do not care if others see/know they re use addresses, as long as the wallet is secure its fine, unless you have something to hide.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: justusranvier on October 15, 2014, 09:27:37 PM
Many people do not care if others see/know they re use addresses, as long as the wallet is secure its fine, unless you have something to hide.
It's a form of pollution that negatively affects other people who interact with them, like second-hand smoke.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: scarsbergholden on October 16, 2014, 02:21:31 AM
how about blockchain wallet ?

it has a feature of, 4 digit pin code , and 2fa which is sms code verification.
Don't use the Blockchain wallet.

It reuses addresses by default, which means you have no privacy.
It will only reuse addresses if you use a custom send TX, if you use the "send" feature then it should create a new address for your change address.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: faceplantz on October 16, 2014, 02:43:25 AM
Anyone here uses breadwallet? Any problem about using it?


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Jamacn on October 16, 2014, 03:27:38 AM
The more intelligent wallet, the more I do not trust. (Someday robots will replace humans  :()


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: zhouqi_cn on October 16, 2014, 04:13:06 AM
Bither is a bitcoin wallet on both iOS and Android, and it is also open source.

Bither have two mode

Bither Hot Wallet: running on your daily phone, can easily monitor your bitcoin assets, and you can also save small amout of bitcoins in it to pay bitcoins anytime, anywhere.

Bither Cold Wallet: running on your backup phone (old or cheap one), keep the phone offline and save large amount of bitcoins in it, then you can keep your bitcoins as safe as possible.

Communicating between Bither Hot and Bither Cold is simple, the only thing you need to do is scanning the QR-Code.

You can have a try.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: fryarminer on October 16, 2014, 04:32:47 AM
Anyone here uses breadwallet? Any problem about using it?

I didn't like breadwallet because it doesn't use BTC denomination, it uses "bits". Many bitcoin decades ago (a few months in real life) I once thought that the term bits was a great idea. Then I thought it was a stupid idea. Either way, to make it the only option in a wallet is a deal breaker for me.



Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: raveldoni on October 16, 2014, 05:02:27 AM
I would also recommend Mycelium on Android phones or blockchain but only keep small amounts.

Any wallet with great security features for smarthphones is still not available.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: grandFX on October 16, 2014, 09:50:25 AM
Im using mycelium for android and bitwallet for iOS


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: KIRAZ on October 16, 2014, 09:56:09 AM
i have used many till now. Hive, Pheeva, coinbase, bither & mycelium.
But so far mycelium is the best and fastest among all those and i'm still using it.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Q7 on October 16, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
I only keep small amount of btc in mycelium. Most of the stash is in an offline storage. Cause i don't have confidence in android os security. Everytime when i reach website, there's bound to be pop ups that says 'phone got virus,' kind of stuff that is enough to freak me out.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: turvarya on October 16, 2014, 12:11:47 PM
I have the blockchain.info-wallet on my smartphone, but I never really used it, since you can't spend BTC in Vienna(besides on the WWW, but I don't need a smartphone-wallet for that).
My problem with the other wallets, I played around with, was, that they need some time to sync with the network, since my smartphone isn't permanently connected to the internet.
The blockchain.info-wallet is pretty fast and simple(connect WiFI-->press wallet-icon-->enter pin) to get ready.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Jamie_Boulder on October 16, 2014, 12:13:51 PM
Wouldn't trust them on Android (not because of the app specifically).

Wouldn't trust them on a Jailbroken iPhone

Would trust on a non-jailbroken iPhone if it was secured with a code + remote wipe functionality via iCloud (not backed up via iCloud though)


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: huoiuu on October 16, 2014, 12:17:59 PM

Which android/ios btc wallet application are you using?

are they trustworthy? User friendly?


I am looking forward an application , which is safe and user friendly for storing,receiving, sending my btc..



Now, i can't using it because , the government don't let us use it


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: ytr8 on October 16, 2014, 01:11:21 PM
smart phone wallets  will be popular in future,Please select a wallet that simple good used


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: testerman on October 30, 2014, 04:13:27 PM
What do you think about Gliph ?

It has a secure messenger and Bitcoin payments

anyone using this?

it like, whatapp + wallet in one app.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ph.gli.android


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Towlie on October 30, 2014, 04:16:21 PM
I think most payment systems will revolve around smartphones in the future, but this is going to mean they have to be very secure. I'm not sure I trust smartphones at the minute with stuff like the NSA syping and data collecting etc.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: bornil267645 on October 30, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
I think mycelium is the way to go. 8)


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: keackh on October 30, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
I don't use smart phone wallet but I know that Mycelium is nice


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: spazzdla on October 30, 2014, 06:59:13 PM
Hum... github bitcoin wallet.. .? lol. 

It's on a bberry for extra saftey!!!! (not really it's on a bberry because that's all I have.. go go z10.. kind of... )


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: btcduke on October 31, 2014, 01:02:59 AM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: lobin on October 31, 2014, 02:10:34 AM
blockchain wallet seems to be more secured.

but i still feel unsafe, I don't think blockchain is perfect, at least not now.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: ANTIcentralized on October 31, 2014, 05:55:42 AM
Wouldn't trust them on Android (not because of the app specifically).

Wouldn't trust them on a Jailbroken iPhone

Would trust on a non-jailbroken iPhone if it was secured with a code + remote wipe functionality via iCloud (not backed up via iCloud though)
You are very correct on the first two. If you are using an app for an android phone or a jailbroken iPhone then the app will likely have not been vetted from anyone (and is difficult to know for sure that you are downloading from who you think you are downloading from, AFAIK you cannot verify a GPG signature from a smartphone.

There have been instances in the past when an android wallet would generate new private keys with a faulty RNG, making it possible for the creators of the wallet to have a much smaller set of private keys that the phones could have generated, making it easy for them to steal from the wallet owners


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: spazzdla on October 31, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Anyone think using a blackberry offeres me more security?


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: StevenS on October 31, 2014, 10:11:19 PM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.
By "safety" do you mean the possibility of the phone being lost or stolen? If that's the concern, make sure you lock the wallet with a PIN. When you discover the phone missing, restore your wallet from the paper backup and transfer the bitcoin to a new wallet, with a new private key.

Or are you concerned about the possibility of the phone being hacked?


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: ScryptAsic on November 01, 2014, 07:03:15 AM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.
By "safety" do you mean the possibility of the phone being lost or stolen? If that's the concern, make sure you lock the wallet with a PIN. When you discover the phone missing, restore your wallet from the paper backup and transfer the bitcoin to a new wallet, with a new private key.

Or are you concerned about the possibility of the phone being hacked?
If you have a 4-digit PIN to "protect" your wallet then there are only 10,000 possible combinations that an attacker would need to try (at most) before finding your PIN. All an attacker would need to do is make a clone of your phone in airplane mode and try all combinations until they figure out which one is correct. This would logically not take very long considering how fast even CPU mining is. This would not give you very much time to secure your funds in the manor you describe


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: BiTJack on November 01, 2014, 07:08:53 AM
Just started using android wallets tried Hive & Mycelium, mycelium is the fast and convenient over all.
But whichever wallet you use on android do not store all your coins in it i just installed it for testing purposes.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: turvarya on November 01, 2014, 08:41:36 AM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.
By "safety" do you mean the possibility of the phone being lost or stolen? If that's the concern, make sure you lock the wallet with a PIN. When you discover the phone missing, restore your wallet from the paper backup and transfer the bitcoin to a new wallet, with a new private key.

Or are you concerned about the possibility of the phone being hacked?
If you have a 4-digit PIN to "protect" your wallet then there are only 10,000 possible combinations that an attacker would need to try (at most) before finding your PIN. All an attacker would need to do is make a clone of your phone in airplane mode and try all combinations until they figure out which one is correct. This would logically not take very long considering how fast even CPU mining is. This would not give you very much time to secure your funds in the manor you describe
A four digit pin is just 1,000 combinations 0000 to 9999 ;)


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: fathur01 on November 01, 2014, 10:02:53 AM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.
By "safety" do you mean the possibility of the phone being lost or stolen? If that's the concern, make sure you lock the wallet with a PIN. When you discover the phone missing, restore your wallet from the paper backup and transfer the bitcoin to a new wallet, with a new private key.

Or are you concerned about the possibility of the phone being hacked?
If you have a 4-digit PIN to "protect" your wallet then there are only 10,000 possible combinations that an attacker would need to try (at most) before finding your PIN. All an attacker would need to do is make a clone of your phone in airplane mode and try all combinations until they figure out which one is correct. This would logically not take very long considering how fast even CPU mining is. This would not give you very much time to secure your funds in the manor you describe
A four digit pin is just 1,000 combinations 0000 to 9999 ;)

Wrong, you can have 10 possible integers for each space. 10x10x10x10 is 10,000 combinations!


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: sandykho47 on November 01, 2014, 10:11:10 AM
Mycelium / Hibe / Blockchain is good wallet app
But, personally i think Blockchain is the best among them

But, you need add second password to your blockchain wallet, because PIN is too easy to hack


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: turvarya on November 01, 2014, 10:14:29 AM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.
By "safety" do you mean the possibility of the phone being lost or stolen? If that's the concern, make sure you lock the wallet with a PIN. When you discover the phone missing, restore your wallet from the paper backup and transfer the bitcoin to a new wallet, with a new private key.

Or are you concerned about the possibility of the phone being hacked?
If you have a 4-digit PIN to "protect" your wallet then there are only 10,000 possible combinations that an attacker would need to try (at most) before finding your PIN. All an attacker would need to do is make a clone of your phone in airplane mode and try all combinations until they figure out which one is correct. This would logically not take very long considering how fast even CPU mining is. This would not give you very much time to secure your funds in the manor you describe
A four digit pin is just 1,000 combinations 0000 to 9999 ;)

Wrong, you can have 10 possible integers for each space. 10x10x10x10 is 10,000 combinations!
Oh, I just got up, when I wrote this.
You are of course right


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Bit N Roll on November 01, 2014, 02:36:19 PM
I do not have a smartphone right now.  ;D Impossible? Believe it?


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: BreezeSpy on November 01, 2014, 02:57:13 PM
I'm using mycelium which is the best wallet to me after trying a number of products.  ;)


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: FortuneBlesser on November 01, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
+1 for blockchain


I vote for blockchain too ;D


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: Argwai96 on November 01, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
I have never try install a wallet on my smart phone.
The safety of phone always bothers me.
By "safety" do you mean the possibility of the phone being lost or stolen? If that's the concern, make sure you lock the wallet with a PIN. When you discover the phone missing, restore your wallet from the paper backup and transfer the bitcoin to a new wallet, with a new private key.

Or are you concerned about the possibility of the phone being hacked?
If you have a 4-digit PIN to "protect" your wallet then there are only 10,000 possible combinations that an attacker would need to try (at most) before finding your PIN. All an attacker would need to do is make a clone of your phone in airplane mode and try all combinations until they figure out which one is correct. This would logically not take very long considering how fast even CPU mining is. This would not give you very much time to secure your funds in the manor you describe
A four digit pin is just 1,000 combinations 0000 to 9999 ;)

Wrong, you can have 10 possible integers for each space. 10x10x10x10 is 10,000 combinations!
I think the point remains that a smartphone wallet is not going to be very well protected with only a 4 digit PIN. I believe that blockchain.info will make you enter your second password when spending funds via your smartphone app, if you have it enabled, however they do not make you (nor do they push you to) have this enabled.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: bitnanigans on November 02, 2014, 05:07:31 AM
We've been working on a user-friendly Bitcoin wallet for Android called Bitdash, and we just published it to the Play Store a couple of days ago.

It supports sending to multiple addresses at once and you can setup a PIN code to protect spending. There's no upper limit to the number of digits a PIN can have, but it has to be at least 4 digits.

You can check it out at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bitdash.wallet.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: raveldoni on November 02, 2014, 05:18:57 AM
Personally,  I don't trust cell phone wallets. Better keep it in a proper wallet with backup or paper wallet if you are too paranoid or if you have large amounts of BTC. I would keep smallish amounts on cell phone wallets like less than 0.5 btc.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: bitkilo on November 02, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Just started using green address, great wallet and very easy to use. Good security with 2fa.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: david wilson on November 02, 2014, 12:09:17 PM
Personally making use of MyCelium on Android (No iOS app yet). The new HD version was released this past week.

Tried many others but settled on MyCelium as I like what it offers.

In regards to safety..... They all say their wallets are safe and maybe they are. I would however have sleepless nights with all my coins lying in a phone wallet. I never keep more than around 0.5 in my phone wallet. Rest is kept offline and moved to the phone as required.
I agree with you. Mycelium is a good application.


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: rammy2k2 on November 02, 2014, 04:07:00 PM

Which android/ios btc wallet application are you using?

are they trustworthy? User friendly?


I am looking forward an application , which is safe and user friendly for storing,receiving, sending my btc..



blockchain , the best


Title: Re: About smart phone wallets..
Post by: testerman on November 03, 2014, 08:54:01 PM
i am using blockchain wallet right now,

so far everything is good, it has a pin code feature, feels a lot safe.