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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: Kontridder on October 16, 2014, 08:38:11 PM



Title: Losing faith
Post by: Kontridder on October 16, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
Why are we going down :( ?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on October 16, 2014, 08:53:45 PM
Because the whole Bitcoin mining process is a never-ending black hole of money hemorrhaging.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: ravenjt on October 16, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
To da moon!!!!!


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: mikerbiker6 on October 16, 2014, 09:18:37 PM
where will it end?
Is bedrock already in sight?
https://i.imgur.com/XOOjN2L.jpg


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: fa on October 17, 2014, 01:07:46 AM
Down and up and down, and up again. It is the pattern when btc become more mature. Its been 5+ years now since btc came into existence. So constant rise and no fall should not be expected.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: pitham1 on October 17, 2014, 01:48:22 AM
When the move up happens, its intensity will shock everybody.  :)


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: djnocide on October 17, 2014, 01:58:26 AM
The most important thing right now about BTC, is its FIAT value. If you want it to have a more stable price, it have to be widely use. When people will stop to compare BTC to FIAT. We'll see less drop like that.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: devphp on October 17, 2014, 07:20:46 AM
When is the next block reward halvening?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: dagi on October 17, 2014, 07:22:44 AM
When is the next block reward halvening?
2016-08-02
http://bitcoinclock.com/ (http://bitcoinclock.com/)


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Thomas-s on October 17, 2014, 08:08:10 AM
When is the next block reward halvening?
2016
Cut your loose until then


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: tpiardi on October 17, 2014, 08:26:35 AM
What is FIAT ?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on October 17, 2014, 08:35:54 AM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: inca on October 17, 2014, 08:50:59 AM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.

Bitter troll who missed out on any gains posting negative tripe again. You reference get rich quick gamblers, oh the irony. If alt coins are so amazing, why devote any wasted time on here at all?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on October 17, 2014, 09:41:12 AM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.

Bitter troll who missed out on any gains posting negative tripe again. You reference get rich quick gamblers, oh the irony. If alt coins are so amazing, why devote any wasted time on here at all?

http://www.bitcoin-foorum.ee/bitter.gif

Last time I held BTC more then 2 days was on December 2013, when it was over 1000$. I don't feel exactly sad that I haven't played these little pumps and dumps that have happened since.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: inca on October 17, 2014, 10:38:10 AM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.

Bitter troll who missed out on any gains posting negative tripe again. You reference get rich quick gamblers, oh the irony. If alt coins are so amazing, why devote any wasted time on here at all?

http://www.bitcoin-foorum.ee/bitter.gif

Last time I held BTC more then 2 days was on December 2013, when it was over 1000$. I don't feel exactly sad that I haven't played these little pumps and dumps that have happened since.

Why are you here posting negative shit if you haven't held btc for more than two days since last December?

I distinctly remember seeing you post a positive prediction for btc on the wall a few weeks ago. The price inexplicably sold off lower sadly.

It is pretty obvious you are dying to catch the next bitcoin bubble. Why not just be honest?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on October 17, 2014, 10:56:27 AM
Why are you here posting negative shit if you haven't held btc for more than two days since last December?

I distinctly remember seeing you post a positive prediction for btc on the wall a few weeks ago. The price inexplicably sold off lower sadly.

It is pretty obvious you are dying to catch the next bitcoin bubble. Why not just be honest?

My motivations are mainly guilt and entertainment.
I know that all that I have earned here, is at the expense of others who are less fortunate then me, so I feel a little obligated to inform less experienced people on the threats that they must face. And also, this place is strongly out of balance, with the majority being extreme fanatics of bitcoin, who are overly positive about it's future. So, it's also entertaining to offer some counterbalance to this cultish community.

I made a mistake with this BTC's prediction. I had some information that turned out to be invalid. The main stress on this prediction went on PPC though, and luckily that wasn't invalid. I still consider PPC highly potential in the coming months. BTC not so much anymore.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: petersiddle98 on October 17, 2014, 10:58:56 AM
Why are we going down :( ?

Have faith, it just drop like 25$....


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: inca on October 17, 2014, 11:04:42 AM
Why are you here posting negative shit if you haven't held btc for more than two days since last December?

I distinctly remember seeing you post a positive prediction for btc on the wall a few weeks ago. The price inexplicably sold off lower sadly.

It is pretty obvious you are dying to catch the next bitcoin bubble. Why not just be honest?

My motivations are mainly guilt and entertainment.
I know that all that I have earned here, is at the expense of others who are less fortunate then me, so I feel a little obligated to inform less experienced people on the threats that they must face. And also, this place is strongly out of balance, with the majority being extreme fanatics of bitcoin, who are overly positive about it's future. So, it's also entertaining to offer some counter-balance to this cultish community.

I made a mistake with this BTC's prediction. I had some information that turned out to be invalid. The main stress on this prediction went on PPC though, and luckily that wasn't invalid. I still consider PPC highly potential in the coming months. BTC not so much anymore.

Ah the fallback of the bear troll - you are just helping out those inexperienced bitcoiners from everyone else on this forum? I would compare you to Edward50 but we both know you will be long as hell if the price moves up from here :)


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on October 17, 2014, 11:06:21 AM
Ah the fallback of the bear troll - you are just helping out those inexperienced bitcoiners from everyone else on this forum? I would compare you to Edward50 but we both know you will be long as hell if the price moves up from here :)

You asked and I answered.
I seriously doubt that I'll put some money back into BTC. Something really big and important would have to happen, but I don't see anything like that on the horizon. I see only a slow and painful downfall.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: NotLambchop on October 17, 2014, 11:28:54 AM
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Ah the fallback of the bear troll - you are just helping out those inexperienced bitcoiners from everyone else on this forum? I would compare you to Edward50 but we both know you will be long as hell if the price moves up from here :)

Inca, how irrelevant could you be?  Talk about being constantly wrong ::)
I wouldn't be surprised if i wake up and its over 400 tomorrow morning ;)
...just like the day before
Off to bed. Probably be over 400 when I wake, eh Shroomskit? Nn porkchop

It's 373, inca, it's 373

http://s18.postimg.org/bnr9mtvfd/Capture.jpg


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: manselr on October 17, 2014, 12:31:19 PM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.

Bitter troll who missed out on any gains posting negative tripe again. You reference get rich quick gamblers, oh the irony. If alt coins are so amazing, why devote any wasted time on here at all?

Well, how he isn't completely spot on with this:

Quote
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.

It doesn't get any more accurate than this. The main attraction, excluding crypto nerds that love the technology, for Bitcoin, has been storing wealth and hoping it goes up with time. That's that. The common folk is not interested in consuming with Bitcoin. How can you prove this wrong? It's the cold hard fact. And when the common folk sees they cannot get much profit anymore, Bitcoin will become a game of rich people, just like Gold. It will be digital Gold, not digital currency as we know it. That's that.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: CryptoCarmen on October 17, 2014, 02:55:05 PM
Ah the fallback of the bear troll - you are just helping out those inexperienced bitcoiners from everyone else on this forum? I would compare you to Edward50 but we both know you will be long as hell if the price moves up from here :)

You asked and I answered.
I seriously doubt that I'll put some money back into BTC. Something really big and important would have to happen, but I don't see anything like that on the horizon. I see only a slow and painful downfall.

Why painful? I dont understand this part well.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: inca on October 17, 2014, 03:18:09 PM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.

Bitter troll who missed out on any gains posting negative tripe again. You reference get rich quick gamblers, oh the irony. If alt coins are so amazing, why devote any wasted time on here at all?

Well, how he isn't completely spot on with this:

Quote
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.

It doesn't get any more accurate than this. The main attraction, excluding crypto nerds that love the technology, for Bitcoin, has been storing wealth and hoping it goes up with time. That's that. The common folk is not interested in consuming with Bitcoin. How can you prove this wrong? It's the cold hard fact. And when the common folk sees they cannot get much profit anymore, Bitcoin will become a game of rich people, just like Gold. It will be digital Gold, not digital currency as we know it. That's that.

You seem new here.

I suggest you a) review his post history, and, b) look at the log chart of bitcoin over the past few years.

Price weakness has incorrectly predicted the death of bitcoin at least four times previously. There are many reasons why bitcoin could go on to great things in the coming years - speculation in the price is not really one of them.

Satoshi said it best: If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.




Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: NotLambchop on October 17, 2014, 03:23:34 PM
You're confusing tanking price with death of Bitcoin.  Bitcoin won't die as long as there are a couple of netbooks mining it.  Even if the coins mined are worth exactly zero.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: liexel on October 17, 2014, 03:34:20 PM
is this the capitulation?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Hyena on October 17, 2014, 04:07:01 PM
I made a mistake with this BTC's prediction. I had some information that turned out to be invalid. The main stress on this prediction went on PPC though, and luckily that wasn't invalid. I still consider PPC highly potential in the coming months. BTC not so much anymore.

I'm also very bullish on Peercoin. Care to share your knowledge about what big things are coming to PPC in the coming months?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Thomas-s on October 17, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
is this the capitulation?
Anger.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: djnocide on October 17, 2014, 04:17:24 PM
You're confusing tanking price with death of Bitcoin.  Bitcoin won't die as long as there are a couple of netbooks mining it.  Even if the coins mined are worth exactly zero.


As long as people believe in it, it won't die.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Wilhelm on October 17, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
is this the capitulation?

Ask falllling ;)


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: CyberSuzy on October 17, 2014, 09:40:23 PM
is this the capitulation?

Ask falllling ;)

He is not on forum anymore, now is Riiising turn.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Capt Drake on October 17, 2014, 09:43:14 PM
Why are we going down :( ?

Because that's what a market does, it goes up and down  :)


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: deephouse on October 17, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
It's difficult to trade BTC if you are not ready to loose 50% of that (precaution). The market is very volatile and anyone with big orders can sway the market price. You need to keep calm and jump in on the right target price.

Never regret your decisions in the future. It's a bad sign in trading.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: oblivi on October 18, 2014, 03:33:26 PM
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.
BTC's large market cap is made out of artificial deficit and fraudulent trading by MtGox's bots and fantasy fiat.
So, now the market will just slowly run dry while new alternatives emerge that have better technological properties and a smaller market cap, that will attract the get rich quick gamblers again.

Bitter troll who missed out on any gains posting negative tripe again. You reference get rich quick gamblers, oh the irony. If alt coins are so amazing, why devote any wasted time on here at all?

Well, how he isn't completely spot on with this:

Quote
Bitcoins price is too bloated to promise people easy riches. And that has been the main attraction to buy BTC.

It doesn't get any more accurate than this. The main attraction, excluding crypto nerds that love the technology, for Bitcoin, has been storing wealth and hoping it goes up with time. That's that. The common folk is not interested in consuming with Bitcoin. How can you prove this wrong? It's the cold hard fact. And when the common folk sees they cannot get much profit anymore, Bitcoin will become a game of rich people, just like Gold. It will be digital Gold, not digital currency as we know it. That's that.

You seem new here.

I suggest you a) review his post history, and, b) look at the log chart of bitcoin over the past few years.

Price weakness has incorrectly predicted the death of bitcoin at least four times previously. There are many reasons why bitcoin could go on to great things in the coming years - speculation in the price is not really one of them.

Satoshi said it best: If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.




That doesn't change the fact most people are in Bitcoin to make money, otherwise they aren't interested.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: eoakland on October 18, 2014, 04:02:47 PM
Satoshi also said the SF Giants will win the World Series, and that SF 49ers stomp those crappy Broncos into the ground this Sunday, thanks Satoshi !


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Kimowa on October 19, 2014, 12:38:32 AM
And now we are up to $390 already, so you shouldn't lose faith just because it drop like 15$.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: monetizator4 on October 19, 2014, 01:14:54 AM
What is FIAT ?

Fiat money is currency which derives its value from government regulation or law. USD, for example.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: nextblast on October 20, 2014, 08:18:12 AM
What is FIAT ?

FIAT is an Italian car brand, short for Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino :D :D

Joking. Fiat is currency, while btc is money. you can watch the documentary "Hidden scerets of money". You'll get the idea.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Omikifuse on October 20, 2014, 08:32:12 AM
And now we are up to $390 already, so you shouldn't lose faith just because it drop like 15$.

now we are sub 380


Don't create expectives so you will neer be disappointed


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: CryptoCarmen on October 20, 2014, 12:26:33 PM
And now we are up to $390 already, so you shouldn't lose faith just because it drop like 15$.

now we are sub 380


Don't create expectives so you will neer be disappointed

$384 now. it seems BTC become stable.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: fewcoins on October 20, 2014, 04:17:16 PM
if we don't break 385 soon then I'll be worried...


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: NapoleonBonaparte on October 20, 2014, 05:41:33 PM
Why are we going down :( ?

Supply outweigh demand.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: labsbitforum on October 20, 2014, 07:30:09 PM
Why are we going down :( ?

Supply outweigh demand.
Correct.

Why?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: abs350 on October 20, 2014, 07:44:16 PM
Bitcoin is bitchcoin

No demand!!!!!!


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: hugger on October 21, 2014, 03:16:01 PM
Bitcoin is bitchcoin

No demand!!!!!!

Then why are you here? Ive been reading a lot of hate comments about BTC lately. This is bitcointalk, why are you here?


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: deephouse on October 24, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Don't go Seamen.... never go seamen.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: Ryota on October 24, 2014, 11:58:28 PM
Bitcoin is a market like any other market.

Mr. Elliott showed that the movements in the financial markets were not chaotic, the markets are repetitive and cyclical in nature. It's the first thing to understand about markets.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: bigtimespaghetti on October 25, 2014, 09:40:29 AM
Bitcoin is a market like any other market.

Mr. Elliott showed that the movements in the financial markets were not chaotic, the markets are repetitive and cyclical in nature. It's the first thing to understand about markets.

Completely agree. Always hedge accordingly.


Title: Re: Losing faith
Post by: crazy_rabbit on October 25, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
Don't confuse people selling bitcoin to pay electricity bills or selling bitcoin in the form of buying stuff online with Bitpay with it failing. Indeed i've never been more convinced bitcoin is the future and I welcome low prices now, because thats the only way to buy more!