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I don't know for sure but it has 50 BTC in it newly generated coins from 13th of January 2009!

https://blockchain.info/address/1CFBdvaiZgZPTZERqnezAtDQJuGHKoHSzg

I never thought I would just stumble upon one of satoshis address while messing around :)

Blockchain.info was founded on 2009 january too ? there is a big chance that it's Satoshi then. since bitcoin wasen't really popular on it first month ?  :-\
but how he got that amount of money , only by mining ? because it's not like bitcoin is hackable or something , not even for the bitcoin creator  :o

Can you find an earlier address than this?

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX

I am guessing this was his too https://blockchain.info/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1  ;D

Wow. It's strange how he never spent any of his coins :/ If it was me I would have been giving them away to new comers in the first couple of months to get more people on board..

I can not image someone sitting on that amount of money, If it were me, I probably already sold it. But again, this is one the reasons why bitcoin is better than any other alt coins.

Back then people could give you thousands of bitcoins for fun. I guess satoshi was a little busy to do giveaways...

I do not think, he ever envisioned BTC to become this strong anyways.

They used several different addresses to shift coins as part of the testing of the functioning of the protocol and I even doubt that they kept record of the private keys.

Those will be lost forever in my opinion.  >:(

Newcomers didn't need giveaways, anyway, just a CPU. Core (before it was Core) used to have a "generate BTC" option. Nobody was really thinking about setting up mining farms to take the ~7200BTC/day (worth ~$0.0000).

If I know about Bitcoin at that time,I will mine it all day and night,unfortunately i missed it.

mm Probably him , some notes has been left on transaction like "Hey satoshi, change my life, send me some bitcoins!"
It may be him after all  :o

I hope he comes back someday, that would be really cool, he's like the CEO, big chief executive of bitcoin lol

Pretty sure he is between us , just not connecting with his main Bitcointalk account  ::) & Maybe some of the mods/admins like Theymos already know him even if they deny it

why he disappear ? is he dead ? i don't find any reason that's why he disappear...if he comes future he will be ask to proof himself it would be awesome if  he back to this forum with a topic like "time is over for hiding".

Nobody knows for sure. "Satoshi" disappeared around the time now-Lead Gavin gave a presentation for the CIA (or FBI - I don't remember, anymore) a few years ago. Whether or not that's a coincidence is unknown. He may be alive or dead. He may be named Nick, Dorian, Ralph, or Tariiq, among millions of other letter combinations, though it's suspected he was White, distant second possibility being Asian - but he wrote in UK English, so we can probably rule out American origins (unless he was just that damn sneaky!).

If he came back, it's unlikely he'd be fully believed to be the original "Satoshi," even if coins moved or "he" signed using his last known PGP key. If coins moved today, I'd guess the majority would assume Satoshi's identity and keys have been fully compromised and a giant pile of coins are about to be dumped, which has some interesting possibilities (does an exchange have the right to block coins from being sold if they suspect the seller of "Satoshi's coins" is not the original "Satoshi"?).

As far as I got the story, Satoshi is just not that of a people person(might even have some mental illness like many geniuses), so he couldn't handle too much publicity. When he saw, that he wasn't needed anymore, it was time for him to complete step down, I wouldn't even say, he terminated the entity Satoshi completely. I doubt, that he will ever come back.

I read that as 1HoLD (It's a sign!)


They wouldn't be able to (wouldn't care). Likewise with stolen coins, exchanges could (if there was the will behind the motive) block stolen coins from their exchange but then again we encounter the problem of tainted coins.

People assume satoshi is sitting on nearly 900K to 1000K bitcoins, but this simply isn't true.

He wasn't the only person that was mining in the early days, so there must be more people sitting on atleast 100K bitcoins that still have not touched their coins yet.

If the coins were mine I would definitely cashout a good bit of coins at the peak. Perhaps the guys can't access, or don't want to access their coins.

The thing I like most about bitcoin is you get to just look at millions worth of something any time you want and dream haha their is a strange closeness about it :) I think satoshi probably does have some mental illness like autism or something, that's the kind of vibe I get anyway, bitcoin is just too perfect and that's how autistic people are. Very unsocial but genius when they put their minds to it :)

I dont think that's him.. What is your proof?

+1

for instance, hal Finney

At the time, Wikileaks got into bitcoin and brought mass media attention. Satoshi wanted a quiet life, he did not want people coming for him or his BTC. After all, he is very rich  ;)

I Think that satoshi will never use that bitcoins.
he must have other secret reserves of bitcoin unlinkable to him,and with a good amount to live.
Looks at what happened when Dorian Nakamoto was linked to be satoshi,he was harassed by the media.

If only i knew as well. Been daydreaming a lot about the 'what if' scenario. Oh. Never mind....Just live with the reality. ;D
Also it's a waste if these coins were not put to good use

Every permanently lost coin adds value to the rest of our coins. :)

so at which peak would you have cashed out your coins?

I don't think, Satoshi will cash out for 3 reasons:
1. Satoshi must have had a good education and a lot of time to invent Bitcoin. So, I think, he is already in a good financial state. I just see him as a person, who is happy with what he already has.
2. Cashing out, could really harm Bitcoins. I don't think a person who but that much effort into a project(might even be his life work) would risk that. I think, if he wanted to use his knowledge to get a lot of money, he would have found an easier way.
3. There were already good points in history to cash out, he could already have made some millions if he wanted to

If I had a time machine I would go back to january 2009 and mine the f!#k out of bitcoin lol

That's right, because the circle was complete. All you gotta do to realise who 'satoshi' was, is join the dots.

This guy doesnt want to be found. Why do you guys persist in tracking him down to the point of stalking?

Satoshi is around. He's just lurking.

@Satoshi Say something dude! we miss you man! lol

Blockchain.info was founded in 2012, if I remember correctly. Blockexplorer.com was made earlier.

Judge from a normal people's financial behavior, it is very strange to maintain so many addresses, if he never combined those coins, then they will be spread among 200+ wallets (suppose that one wallet holds 100 addresses and each address holds 50 coins. Actually I don't know how many addresses the early version of wallets hold, if it can hold 20K addresses then he need only one wallet)

Nothing indicated that he combined at least some of those coins together. So he either hold large amount of wallets or he hold a special wallet that contains thousands of addresses, both are very strange scenario

Of course he could hope that when one satoshi reached parity with one dollar, each of those 50 coins will worth 5 billion dollars, like blocks of millions of USD when FED creates money. Then he do not need to combine them together

My guess is that he never really kept those coins, this will give him a much higher credibility over the system than he actually owns all those coins: From the creator's point of view, it is just a system, no matter it is fiat money or bitcoin. If the creator benefit from the system he created, then from academic point of view it is not enough convincing

I don't see why he would want to Cashout , I'am pretty sure he is already rich with his knowledge in Programming etc. someone who is not looking for fame & money  ;D

we don't like the actual topic too much eh guys ? lol


me i dunno if it's his just because it's old ?

i can't count how many times i have heard from older guys who said they had wallets with BTC in them and lost them..
i seen a story before about a guy who had a good amount and he had the PC sent to the landfill LOL
and imagine how many dead hard drives are out there.

maybe satoshi had most of his coins sitting on drive that died that failed getting repaired ?
could be a lot of theories really..

paranoid Japanese man ? Gavin or Nick or... ? i dunno but i lean more towards Nick myself from reports i have heard.

so how the hell do we find out accurately what the oldest address is and the one with the most coins ?
50 coins is not a lot !
and a LOT of guys got in early briefly and wandered off forgetting their passwords etc
or maybe reformatted their HDD forgetting they had a .dat file in a roaming folder on windows.. an easy mistake to make !

i think he died some how or simply changed identities

Ok, cool, in case you also found the private key, you can just pm me

i think about this almost every day lol

i was regular visitor around various tech forums and such when bitcoin just started, and i just ignored all stuff about bitcoin. I mean "money in my hard drive" wtf :D. I doubt i would understand tech behind btc few years ago as much as i do now, but still - its very likely my ignorance stabbed me badly.

I vaguely remember hearing about bitcoin online back in 2009, I thought it was like play money or something and never bothered looking into it, then when I heard bitcoin was worth $1000 I couldn't believe how I missed out :(

He has said that you should only use each address one time and to use a new change address each time you spend bitcoin. This would imply that he would never be able to combine his addresses together as doing do would violate that rule.

He likely used multiple computers to mine at first (he could have used GPU mining in theory) and if this is true then he probably had one wallet for each computer.

why strange?  my understanding is the idea was to never reuse addresses.  so his wallet would have a separate address for every 50 btc mined.  also there's a site i saw before that tracked the early coins that never moved.

Yes, impossible to say how many bitcoins Satoshi really mined, or spent. If the addresses are not reused of course

Is there any proof that its really his bitcoin address?

No, but if you look at the header, you can see that it was likely an address that was mined by satoshi as the headers of blocks that he mined has somewhat of a unique 'footprint'

I don't think it is beneficial for people to be obsessing over satoshi like this, as it creates a colt like religion.

If it were up to me, satoshi would sell all his coins on an exchange. It would make the price crash over the short term, but over the long term it would benefit Bitcoin as it would take a lot of uncertainty away and would prevent a lot of what the OP is doing

He has all the Bitcoin he needs anyway. What's the point of looking for a cold trail.