Title: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: iBitcoins on October 19, 2014, 01:39:04 PM Hey guys, i made a transaction yesterday :
https://blockchain.info/tx/b7255d5034cf0b2a8b51d7634f5d49f73c6ca74c9c4a98fe901b5ba2cfbe8adb Unfortunately ... i delibeteraly forgot to add miners fee and now it's almost been 18h and still no confirmation. My question is : anyways I can add miners fee right now to speed things up to help it spread in the network? And when I look at the network propagation tab in https://blockchain.info/inv/b7255d5034cf0b2a8b51d7634f5d49f73c6ca74c9c4a98fe901b5ba2cfbe8adb i noticed there was a Nod yesterday that had picked it up but today there's no information available, could something be wrong with the transaction? Thanks for your help, Max Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: 1Referee on October 19, 2014, 01:50:50 PM That transaction can stay easily a week without a single confirmation...
You can only wait and hope it will get confirmed, that's the only thing you can do. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: Bad Uncle on October 19, 2014, 01:52:11 PM It's not possible to retroactively add a fee. As above said the only thing you can do is wait. the money will either confirm or get sent back to you so don't worry.
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: matt4054 on October 19, 2014, 01:53:10 PM There are two possible outcomes:
I guess you could accelerate things by deleting your wallet AFTER SAVING PRIVATE KEYS FROM ALL INPUTS WITH NON-ZERO BALANCES (and those with zero balance if you plan to re-use them), create a new wallet and import all private keys back. Then you can "double spend" (re-spend if you prefer) the bitcoins, but it will only be accepted from nodes that already discarded the previous unconfirmed transaction. Do not try this if you aren't sure about the private keys import/export operation, as you could lose access to your bitcoins permanently. Another idea would be to double spend using a raw transaction, but that requires some advanced skills. Also, there is a BIP (Bitcoin Improvement Proposal) to allow increasing the fee retroactively, but it's not possible at the moment AFAIK. PS: How can you deliberately forget something? I guess it's a language mistake Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: iBitcoins on October 19, 2014, 01:56:47 PM PS: How can you deliberately forget something? I guess it's a language mistake I've just been greedy, no language mistake. A terrible mistake. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: iBitcoins on October 19, 2014, 02:27:33 PM There are two possible outcomes:
Either way the Bitcoins are not lost, they're just flying in the Bitcoin space and will either be sent to original recipient or sent back to me? Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: matt4054 on October 19, 2014, 02:45:23 PM Either way the Bitcoins are not lost, they're just flying in the Bitcoin space and will either be sent to original recipient or sent back to me? Yes. Technically not sent back to you, but transaction will be discarded and amount will be available again on your balance for spending Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: iBitcoins on October 19, 2014, 03:41:00 PM Thank you very much matt !
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: umairsaleem010 on October 19, 2014, 03:45:43 PM I do hope the transaction doesnt mess up and stay unconfirmed like a double spend.
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: cma3 on October 19, 2014, 03:50:56 PM moral of the story: include that miner fee!
good luck with your transaction. (you'll be ok) ;D Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: iBitcoins on October 19, 2014, 04:30:20 PM I do hope the transaction doesnt mess up and stay unconfirmed like a double spend. Why would it do such? I mean, it's just a no fee legit transaction right? Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: leen93 on October 19, 2014, 04:31:35 PM just wait a week
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: bitsmichel on October 19, 2014, 06:47:15 PM moral of the story: include that miner fee! good luck with your transaction. (you'll be ok) ;D Without miner fee transactions have a long waiting time. The transaction fee is processed by and received by the bitcoin miner. Some wallet developers might also get some transaction fee, depending on the implementation. Fees are not high, it is better to include them. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: Centaurus on October 19, 2014, 11:39:36 PM Transactions without fee may be long, several miners are choosing blocks with higher fee.
Has it occurred to me that a transaction without fee delay 4 days to confirm. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: shorena on October 20, 2014, 11:20:45 AM Transactions without fee may be long, several miners are choosing blocks with higher fee. Has it occurred to me that a transaction without fee delay 4 days to confirm. There are several factors to determine the fee. The most known is the size of the TX, 0.0001 per KByte, but the age and the size of the input also matter. I had a TX that did not confirm for 8 days with very small inputs. 4 inputs total 0.0022 BTC. In the end I had to doublespend the TX with fee. I also had a TX just this morning that had a single input >1 BTC and confirmed within 9 minutes without fee. See here [1] for the formula. [1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Technical_info Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: pooya87 on October 20, 2014, 12:04:04 PM if you are not in a rush be greedy :) and wait more, it might get confirmed otherwise i think you have to look into double spending your bitcoins
just delete the transaction and create a new one Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: ranochigo on October 20, 2014, 01:11:33 PM Hey guys, i made a transaction yesterday : No, you cannot modify a transaction that is already broadcasted but you still can doublespend it although it may be difficult. Most node refused to relay your transaction as your transaction does not include a standard fee and the coin age of the 0.1BTC is very low which brings down the priority of the confirmation. The node probably stopped relaying your transaction as other nodes are not willing to accept and relay your transaction.https://blockchain.info/tx/b7255d5034cf0b2a8b51d7634f5d49f73c6ca74c9c4a98fe901b5ba2cfbe8adb Unfortunately ... i delibeteraly forgot to add miners fee and now it's almost been 18h and still no confirmation. My question is : anyways I can add miners fee right now to speed things up to help it spread in the network? And when I look at the network propagation tab in https://blockchain.info/inv/b7255d5034cf0b2a8b51d7634f5d49f73c6ca74c9c4a98fe901b5ba2cfbe8adb i noticed there was a Nod yesterday that had picked it up but today there's no information available, could something be wrong with the transaction? Thanks for your help, Max Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: Jamie_Boulder on October 20, 2014, 01:20:43 PM "I delibeteraly forgot" lolwhat?
Your only option is to wait it out, at least you'll know not to skimp on the miners next time. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: Salmon1989 on October 21, 2014, 10:40:31 AM The transaction has now been dropped in blockchain.info mempool.
You can create a double-spend transaction with standard tx fee and push it to the network easily now. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: unrealistic on October 22, 2014, 06:13:46 AM It is normal for small transactions, just wait for it to be transfered.
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: leen93 on October 22, 2014, 10:25:16 AM it was cancelled in the end, transaction was just gone, now i did it again with fee :D
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: Phyzic on October 22, 2014, 10:36:48 AM That transaction can stay easily a week without a single confirmation... Yes, Sometimes it might take more than week and in the end, its your luck how fast the miner mines. You can only wait and hope it will get confirmed, that's the only thing you can do. Hehe :D Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: lynn_402 on October 22, 2014, 01:20:19 PM The longest amount of time it took for one of my transactions to be confirmed was 20h, but it went through in the end. Which was weird since the tx fee was paid.
Every other times the transaction was fully confirmed in about 2 hours. Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: aronnov on October 22, 2014, 10:53:03 PM I also experienced the same thing, it's almost a month the transaction is not confirmed, it seems bitcoinnya not make it to a bitcoin address me, I have to wait for how long? 8)
Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction almost 18h :( Post by: Mobius7 on October 23, 2014, 12:08:25 PM I also experienced the same thing, it's almost a month the transaction is not confirmed, it seems bitcoinnya not make it to a bitcoin address me, I have to wait for how long? 8) If your transaction has no fee attached and has a low coin-age, it is possible that the transaction will never be confirmed. |