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I have a good new concept for a gambling,strategy game.
There is a very good house edge too.

I need someone who will deal with all techinical aspects including domain, hosting, designing and coding.
the reward is 50% of lifetime profits from the site.

The site is highly profitable if it gets sufficient exposure and players.

For details, PM me. Also, you are expected not to start/leak the idea.

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So to clarify, you need a developer to be your partner in this?

yeah. trusted members preferable

moved to gambling section.

You have built the site already? or are looking to build it from scratch? you could consider affiliating, very tricky to compete in the market and big budget needed.

Are you developing or you are searching for someone who will be your partner (and will develop the game)?
And what are the requirements?

my idea. partner's expertise.
The partner develops the website and manages all technical aspects. i will do the marketing and all the remaining stuff.
cost&profit shared 50:50

trusted. no negative reps.

Don't bother with another dice website? Already too many of them out at the moment.

For it to be profitable it needs to be something new and unique.

Its pretty obvious from the post, that its not a dice site, which is why the op is not open to sharing the idea openly.



You might want to hire a developer instead. This way you can get more profits for yourself, and if you do believe the idea is good, you should be willing to pay the fees to get the site up and running.

Blegh, not trying to flame here, just the cold hard truth. But idea's are worthless without execution. What do you provide except the idea? Why would I risk all my time for free just for 50% of the equity when I could do it myself?

I think I can speak on behalf of 95% of the developers: we get these deals weekly and we don't need someone with just an idea.

Thats not always true. It might be true incase of Startups and all, where a lot of work is required. But for a gambling idea , the idea is very important. For example the game plinko, is addictive, and has a very big house edge, and despite that people enjoy playing it. The developer can simply set it up and be done with it, and address minor problems that may exist in the future. Maybe a 35-65(developer getting 65) might be a better option perhaps.
Also, like I said above, it might be better if the op simply paid a developer to set it up and help with future issues.

I prefer idea's that have been executed before. If there is a lot of competition you know people like this idea. If you think you came up with your own unique idea (which I doubt) you will have no validation users actually like it, you will have to test the market yourself first. Examples of existing ideas but better executed: Facebook (better social network), Google (better search engine), Instagram (better picture sharing), YouTube (better video sharing). And these are just examples of multi billion dollar companies.

And to compare your Plinko example. Luckyb.it was the first in the Bitcoin gambling space, but Dice.ninja (ignoring the fact they scammed the users) executed a better version of Plinko and attracted a lot of players right away. The Plinko idea succeeded because it had been validated before (First by "The Price Is Right" in 1983)

There is only profit. No losing scenario. So 50% is big enough.
The house edge is flexible. But it will be low, atleast in the first stage.




I don't know. anyway, i have not find a similar site i am planning to set up till now.

This involves strategy and is not just pure luck as in dice, plinko and lottery.

ty for the awesome suggestions.
Currently awaiting feedback from dooglus.


How much does hiring a developer and hosting a website costs?

Good luck with your initiative ,  if you  want can you send me a PM with the details ? Thanks.

sent.

It's without investment but it requires from the partner a lot of hours of programming. So this actually fledged investmentת I think It's not fair 50%-50%, because the programmer will waste at least 100 hours of working, and you much less, much.

How much does it cost to hire a programmer?

A good freelance developer will cost anywhere between 30$ and 120$ (can be double this amount for very specialistic work) depending on where they live.

So will 0.1BTC and 10% of lifetime profits do?

*Per hour.

hahaha...
More close to 2BTC + 50% (don't forget that you need to continue support by the developer).

What kind of expertise? Coding?

Per Hour, I think ;)

I am a developer, please PM me the details.

This is getting really hard.

Does anyone know a site, which helps you learn how to develop a website or something?

Website registered.
Hosting: finalizing
Coding: what am i going to do with this?

Being honest here. The problem is that you will have to trust developers with the idea, or will have to be ready to pay for getting the site developed, the latter being a better option. Learning yourself, and getting the site developed, might take a lot of time.

is anyone willing to do it for me for 0.1BTC ?

cheap things usually become problems... get a freelancer from other site to do it, since hey, how can you trust the code if you cant audit it?

Even if a developer builds you a site for 0.1 BTC, it will still probably be a buggy site, and he will not offer you continued development for it.

Just out of curiosity, how many hours do you think it would take to build your gambling site? And how much do you think a decent developer would get paid an hour? In all likelihood you would have greater success in offering nothing than a couple of orders of magnitude less than a decent rate.

0.1BTC?  Is this a joke to you?

Yea you want to open a gambling site, BUT your in a signature campaign that's gives you .05 a month lol. Good,luck man wish you all the best .

Why is it that people who aren't developers think that programming is like baking a cake.

Step 1: Write code
Step 2: Deploy code
Step 3: Congratulations you built Facebook!

Programming is an art and a science, and like any art or science it takes years to learn, but a lifetime to master.

What you need to do is go back a few steps, you're at the development stage and you're clearly not ready.

You need a development plan that outlines what technology you need and how it will interact;

What language is it going to be written in?
What DB are you using?
How is it going to be hosted?
How is it going to scale?
What security measures are going to be employed?
etc, etc

You don't know the answers to these questions, which is fine, but it means you need to hire someone who does.

After you pay someone to work out what technology you'll be using, then you can move to development stage.

Forget 50/50 revenue sharing or anything along those lines, you need to hire someone not partner with them.

Of course I suspect you just want things to be "easy and cheap", which in that case, STOP NOW!

It's not going to end well.

yeah, i know.
thanks anyway. :)

Site launched. Pretty stupid bcoz i used wix.

Anyway, i hope it will make up till i get the real one online properly. it will take a few months probably.

this one needs to do everything manually. atleast noone can cheat.

http://btcwanderer.wix.com/bitcoin

So the very first one to send 0.001 btc to 1Z9ksvgNh7oqUe7YZr5YN9Nv8sFvtg74z will have a profit of 0.0015 profit, right?

ofcourse. u r not supposed to share the ticket number or the reward though.

Can anyone think of a way in which i can inform the players their ticket number, without paying 0.0001 tx fee?

What about just listing all the ticket number and players' bitcoin address of the current round on your site?
Ticket        Address
1              1ABC
2              1BCD
...

And then the players could check it easily.

the idea is that, to know till where the game has advances, you have to buy a ticket.

Otherwise, who will buy ticket numbers without any prizes?

I see. What about the following?
1. Add a page where players need to enter their bitcoin address and sign a specific message (say, Round #0001).
2. You will then verify if the signature is valid, and if the address has bought at least a ticket in the current round.
3. If confirmed, show the player his ticket number(s) only.

i had exactly the same idea. :) thanks

but the problem is how do i do that in wix editor? (i will certainly add it when the real site comes.)

interesting answer. would You mind to explain in more depth what You mean? my experience is with developers after talking to them (and I want to pay them the work time) that they are very much interested in ideas and when I am telling them one of my casino gaming ideas they disappear. why that? IMO because they want to listen to the ideas and take it to do it alone. and if they dont like it they disappear or give stupid answers.

can some one explain this behaviour?

oh by the way IMO those devs are children who have no experience regarding casino games and how to handle a casino site.
therefore we have so many dice sites/scripts running around

I was expecting something more innovating. This idea has already been implemented many times before, but not a lot of people enjoy playing it, due to the risk of the owner taking advantage himself.

of course. you don't mean to take that that site i just created in 3 hours with absolutely 0 coding is all that it is? there is only one old site, which is not popular anymore, uses the same core concept.

I have established a partnership with Cryptowatch.com .

when will the site up and running?

in a few weeks.

anxious to use the site

Do you have a bank roll to cover all winners?

The site doesn't seem to be requiring a bankroll, as it is based on the lottery system. So users participate and take chances to win the entire pot, which is built from everyone's wager.