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I have a listing on BTCjam and thought I would post it here to see if anyone would be interested.

It is my first loan there and it's not a very large amount but it does have a low return.

My rating is a D because I am new and I don't really believe in those rep loans. If I am going to get a higher rating I am going to earn it and get it from legit loans.

Thanks

https://btcjam.com/listings/25847-silver-pawn (https://btcjam.com/listings/25847-silver-pawn)

Can you provide a valid collateral? Please.

The collateral would be the silver but it would not be worth it to send through the mail to someone because of the weight and amount of loan.

It is also a BTCjam loan so not sure how collateral would work with that.

Thanks

So, again, can you provide valid collateral?  If not, you are wasting your time and ours posting your loan here.  Your time may not be worth much, but mine is.

I will not be providing any collateral for this loan as the small amount of the loan and the size and weight of the package of silver sending back and forth would not be worth it.

Sorry to have wasted your time but others might be interested.

Thanks

Income verified no
Personal References no 
PayPal verified no 
Credit Card Verified no 
Profile Completeness 60%

 :D

0.5 btc is a "small amount", but I'm sure it's something you'd be happy to run away with.   ;)

No problem , if you want you can close the thread yourself with the lock topic function.

Well I won't be running away with anything.

I guess I will leave it open to see if others might be interested.

Thanks

Interesting... that's what most scammers say.   :-\

Dude what is wrong with you?

Why would you leave me negative feedback like that for nothing?

Dude, why do you post bullshit?  I don't leave negative feedback for nothing.

You have not verified your info on BTCJam - you are asking for 0.5btc and you are saying you will sell the silver to pay your loan should you default.

You are obviously untrustworthy.   :-\

I have verified my identity and all I can on BTCjam and am waiting for income verification from them.

If you bothered to look you see I am quite active on BTCjam and have quite a few investments.

I also don't know why I have 6 negatives here now all of a sudden because of you?

That's messed up.

I appreciate you trying to look out for scammers and warn people but you are mistaken here.

Provide collateral or GTFO.  I told you this initially when you first asked about btcjam loans.

I don't have any against you (and also Vod-I think) but the rule is :

"No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0)

I will not be providing collateral as explained many times over as to why.

Collateral is not needed here nor on BTCjam. Some people require it and some people don't.

If you don't want to invest in me that's fine just move along.

I also reported you to the moderators for putting that negative feedback on me for no reason.

I read through your feedback as a scam buster and how everyone praises you for it but apparently all you do is accuse everyone of scamming without any facts.

Incomplete btcjam profile:  fact
No collateral:  fact
Promises to send money AFTER he defaults on loan:  fact
Account created just to ask for loan on btcjam:  fact

Looks like a lot of facts to me. 

I believe you are here to scam.  My beliefs are usually right.  You'll need to provide collateral so we know you won't scam us.   :-\

I think that's fair.

I don't want to to provide collateral for this loan for a number of reasons. One is that the silver would be very heavy to send through the mail and then have sent back to me. Paying for the postage would defeat the purpose of trying to save money on the interest part.

Second, like many of you here I would have a hard time trusting someone would send my silver back.

I understand that since I won't be providing collateral you won't be investing and that's fine.

I would like to thank you though for not leaving me bad feedback and calling me a scammer like someone else here.

Ok Mr. Bullshit - who called you a scammer?   ::)

So this is the solution : do you have another valid collateral ? If the answer will : no, I don't have any other valid collateral

I think it will be so difficult to receive the loan. However , good luck !

Sorry but you are wrong on some of that.

My profile is incomplete yes but I think I have provided the most important parts.

There is collateral but I am not willing to send it.

How can it be a fact that I promised to send the money after I default on the loan when the loan hasn't even been funded yet. That is not a fact.

My account here on Bitcointalk was created before your account all the way back in June 2011 a few days before yours and was not created just to ask for this loan.

My account on BTCjam is kinda new but was not created just for a loan. It was created to try and invest.

Well the feedback you left me certainly implies that I am a scammer?

My old listing has expired and did not get fully funded.

I have relisted the loan again if anyone is interested.

https://btcjam.com/listings/26619-silver-pawn-1 (https://btcjam.com/listings/26619-silver-pawn-1)

Thanks

Apparently your time is worth quite a lot, but you posted multiple times on this thread when you say he is just a scammer. If you think he's a scammer post ONCE and move on stop arguing like children. Wrong quote lawl. *Directed to vod* You guys know what I mean. Just because somebody is new to the forums they get called scammers. Is the word scammer the new welcome?

I have actually been here on this forum longer than VOD and I think that was partly why I was so surprised at what he did by leaving the negative feedback for me.

I have been on many other forums and message boards from cards to comics to coins and while there are dishonest people there I have never been outright called a scammer and left negative feedback the way he did to me here.

It appears to me, and I could be wrong, but it seems that VOD leaves bad feedback for anyone associated with BTCjam. I understand that he feels there are a lot of scammers and dishonest people there but there are a lot of scammers and dishonest people here on this forum as well.

Its good what VOD and KWH and the others do when trying to spot scams and protect people but I think VOD takes it a little to far and leaves wrong feedback for some. Even after I offered to prove I am not a scammer he will not budge and will not remove the feedback. Perhaps he doesn't like to admit when he is wrong? I don't know.

Either way I am confident that negative feedback will be removed at some point as I have contacted the owners of this site to have a look at it and get it removed.

I am a very honest person with good feedback here and elsewhere and for one person to just ruin it the way he did is just unacceptable.

Well my loan didn't get funded the second time around so I am listing it again.

https://btcjam.com/listings/27109-silver-pawn-1 (https://btcjam.com/listings/27109-silver-pawn-1)

I was able to get my income verified so hopefully that helps.

Thanks

The loan was 100% funded the third time.

Not sure if anyone from Bitcointalk helped invest but thanks if they did.