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Title: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 28, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
Anyone have any experience with loading BAMT onto a hard drive? My motherboard is not compatible with USB booting, so this is my last option.


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Inaba on May 28, 2012, 01:14:27 AM
I won't say it's impossible, but if you're asking the question, it might as well be. 


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on May 28, 2012, 02:09:11 AM
I have half my BAMT rigs that way. I use the win32 disk imager, I have a thumb drive installed, open the imager so it will allow me to select the thumb drive letter, then I remove the thumb drive and plug in the hard drive via USB, then it'll write to the hard drive.

If I try running the imager with just the hard drive plugged in, the imager won't load the drive letter.


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 28, 2012, 02:21:02 AM
I have half my BAMT rigs that way. I use the win32 disk imager, I have a thumb drive installed, open the imager so it will allow me to select the thumb drive letter, then I remove the thumb drive and plug in the hard drive via USB, then it'll write to the hard drive.

If I try running the imager with just the hard drive plugged in, the imager won't load the drive letter.

You serious about this? One problem I have with some other ways similar to this that I have tried is I get to the bamt loading screen, but I get an error stating, BAMT is unable to mount. You get that with that method? Or it smooths on by?


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: NetworkerZ on May 28, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
I have 3 rigs with 3x 32 GB SSDs with BAMT on it. Just use Win32 disk imager. You can not connect the drive to an internal SATA Port, you have to use an USB adapter (or external case), then the drive appears as an external storage (like an USB Flash Drive).

Greetz
NetworkerZ


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 28, 2012, 04:06:22 PM
I have 3 rigs with 3x 32 GB SSDs with BAMT on it. Just use Win32 disk imager. You can not connect the drive to an internal SATA Port, you have to use an USB adapter (or external case), then the drive appears as an external storage (like an USB Flash Drive).

Greetz
NetworkerZ

When I try this I get can not mount /dev/loop0

This usual?


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: mitak64 on May 28, 2012, 05:18:02 PM
use Norton Ghost - disk to disk
in Options - Image/Tape - use "Image All"


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: atomicswan27 on May 28, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
I would recommend formatting your hard drive to the USB format, then loading BAMT onto it.


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: BinaryMage on May 28, 2012, 07:38:42 PM
I have 3 rigs with 3x 32 GB SSDs with BAMT on it. Just use Win32 disk imager. You can not connect the drive to an internal SATA Port, you have to use an USB adapter (or external case), then the drive appears as an external storage (like an USB Flash Drive).

Greetz
NetworkerZ

Out of curiosity, why are you using SSDs with BAMT? Seems extreme overkill to me...


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Transisto on May 28, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
I have been using BAMT for a long time and can say with confidence that any brand of USB key will end up with the "no free space" bug.

The difference between a good and a bad USB key is that the bad one will not allow you to format / re-image it.

I also wish to install on HDD, but I now have a fast reimaging procedure as a work-around.

Sometime this bug will have for symptoms to have one or more gpu not working, with output such as "no screen to look at (~alike)"


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: mc_lovin on May 28, 2012, 09:31:10 PM
have you tried my fix to make BAMT boot your board?

http://www.bitcointrading.com/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg1149#msg1149


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Inaba on May 28, 2012, 09:42:02 PM
I've never had the "no free space" bug on my Patriot Rage XT sticks?


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Transisto on May 28, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
I have been using BAMT for a long time and can say with confidence that any brand of USB key will end up with the "no free space" bug.

The difference between a good and a bad USB key is that the bad one will not allow you to format / re-image it.

I also wish to install on HDD, but I now have a fast reimaging procedure as a work-around.

Sometime this bug will have for symptoms to have one or more gpu not working, with output such as "no screen to look at (~alike)"

While on the subject ...
Code:
There is no screen to be resumed matching gpu0.
There is no screen to be resumed matching gpu0.
root@new:~# mkdir j
mkdir: cannot create directory `j': No space left on device
#root@new:~# df
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
aufs                   1016312    716020    248688  75% /
tmpfs                   387136         0    387136   0% /lib/init/rw
udev                    381920       204    381716   1% /dev
tmpfs                   387136         4    387132   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1               823024    798704     24320  98% /live/image
/dev/sda2              1016312    716020    248688  75% /live/cow
tmpfs                   387136         0    387136   0% /live
tmpfs                   387136       320    386816   1% /tmp
/dev/sda3                97897     39277     53565  43% /home
root@new:~#

Corsair voyager,
Sandisks,
Transcend
OCZ
among others...

usually happen after, ~4-6 month


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 29, 2012, 01:38:48 AM
Well a bunch of people commented but no one answered my question. I've tried Ghost, Win32, UnetBootin, and some other programs to copy sectors but nothing has worked.

I get "could not mount /dev/loop0"

Anyone heard of this or can diagnose it. I am about to switch to linuxcoin on this piece of shit.

And mc_lovin, didn't work either, I get "no ui found"

No usbs seem to work, my only hope is a HDD but that doesnt even work.


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Transisto on May 29, 2012, 07:40:10 AM
Anyone have any experience with loading BAMT onto a hard drive? My motherboard is not compatible with USB booting, so this is my last option.

What an old piece of crap it must be, stop wasting your time on that, go windoze as a last resort.


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: david113 on May 29, 2012, 02:02:52 PM
Well a bunch of people commented but no one answered my question. I've tried Ghost, Win32, UnetBootin, and some other programs to copy sectors but nothing has worked.

I get "could not mount /dev/loop0"

Anyone heard of this or can diagnose it. I am about to switch to linuxcoin on this piece of shit.

And mc_lovin, didn't work either, I get "no ui found"

No usbs seem to work, my only hope is a HDD but that doesnt even work.

Use Clonezilla

yesterday, I put my BAMT (usb) in to SSD IDE in a old Mobo... It Works!!!


1. Download Clonezilla ISO
2. Use  http://bitcointrading.com/files/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.7.6.exe (http://bitcointrading.com/files/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.7.6.exe)to flash the iso in to USB stick (select other linux, new, from the dropdown box, right at the bottom).
3. In a MoBo that support USB boot put IDE/SSD/SATA HDD, BAMT and Clonezilla.
4. Boot from Clonezilla, select Start Clonezilla
5. Chose  Local disc to local disc cloned (or so, don't remember)
6. Try, try... and try (use advanced mode)
7 Success!!

Sorry for my bad english



 


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 29, 2012, 03:02:26 PM
Anyone have any experience with loading BAMT onto a hard drive? My motherboard is not compatible with USB booting, so this is my last option.

What an old piece of crap it must be, stop wasting your time on that, go windoze as a last resort.

Its a gigabyte pos


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Transisto on May 29, 2012, 04:26:37 PM
Anyone have any experience with loading BAMT onto a hard drive? My motherboard is not compatible with USB booting, so this is my last option.

What an old piece of crap it must be, stop wasting your time on that, go windoze as a last resort.

Its a gigabyte pos
Model ? , While at it.


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Dargo on May 29, 2012, 04:41:42 PM
I am about to switch to linuxcoin on this piece of shit.

Before you go to that extreme, try cgminer on some flavor of ubuntu 11.04 (I went with Peppermint Two, based on Lubuntu 11.04, which I *highly* recommend). Kano's installation guide worked perfectly for me

https://github.com/kanoi/linux-usb-cgminer/blob/master/linux-usb-cgminer

The guide is for a 64 bit OS, so that my be a snag if you are 32 bit. But you might try just substituting the 32 bit version of AMD-APP-SDK v.2.4 for the 64 bit version called for in the guide. See the part at the end of this guide on how to write a script

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gw7YPYgMgNNU42skibULbJJUx_suP_CpjSEdSi8_z9U/edit?pli=1

I recommend that you write the script from scratch in nano (rather than trying to cut+paste or use a standard text editor). So, just type "nano" at terminal and enter the script. When you are done, Ctrl+o, type in file name, then ENTER to save, and Ctrl+x to quit. Otherwise, you can just follow the guide above (btw, the other part of the guide for installing cgminer on xubuntu 12.04 did not work for me, but you might try it also).

Peppermint will offer an automated install of proprietary AMD drivers, but *do not* do that - instead, just follow kano's guide. To install to HD, just click on the "Install Peppermint" icon on the desktop after you boot from live CD/usb.    

Compared to BAMT, I'm seeing ~2% increase in efficiency and I can clock my 5850s a little higher. And the desktop is much more responsive. I prefer this set up over BAMT.  


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 29, 2012, 05:38:19 PM
Anyone have any experience with loading BAMT onto a hard drive? My motherboard is not compatible with USB booting, so this is my last option.

What an old piece of crap it must be, stop wasting your time on that, go windoze as a last resort.

Its a gigabyte pos
Model ? , While at it.

GA-965P-DS3


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: nckrazze on May 29, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
I am about to switch to linuxcoin on this piece of shit.

Before you go to that extreme, try cgminer on some flavor of ubuntu 11.04 (I went with Peppermint Two, based on Lubuntu 11.04, which I *highly* recommend). Kano's installation guide worked perfectly for me

https://github.com/kanoi/linux-usb-cgminer/blob/master/linux-usb-cgminer

The guide is for a 64 bit OS, so that my be a snag if you are 32 bit. But you might try just substituting the 32 bit version of AMD-APP-SDK v.2.4 for the 64 bit version called for in the guide. See the part at the end of this guide on how to write a script

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gw7YPYgMgNNU42skibULbJJUx_suP_CpjSEdSi8_z9U/edit?pli=1

I recommend that you write the script from scratch in nano (rather than trying to cut+paste or use a standard text editor). So, just type "nano" at terminal and enter the script. When you are done, Ctrl+o, type in file name, then ENTER to save, and Ctrl+x to quit. Otherwise, you can just follow the guide above (btw, the other part of the guide for installing cgminer on xubuntu 12.04 did not work for me, but you might try it also).

Peppermint will offer an automated install of proprietary AMD drivers, but *do not* do that - instead, just follow kano's guide. To install to HD, just click on the "Install Peppermint" icon on the desktop after you boot from live CD/usb.    

Compared to BAMT, I'm seeing ~2% increase in efficiency and I can clock my 5850s a little higher. And the desktop is much more responsive. I prefer this set up over BAMT.  

Thanks for this. I might consider this, but I am still waiting on someone to help me out with the could not mount /dev/loop0 error. You know anything about this?


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Dargo on May 29, 2012, 07:04:30 PM
I am about to switch to linuxcoin on this piece of shit.

Before you go to that extreme, try cgminer on some flavor of ubuntu 11.04 (I went with Peppermint Two, based on Lubuntu 11.04, which I *highly* recommend). Kano's installation guide worked perfectly for me

https://github.com/kanoi/linux-usb-cgminer/blob/master/linux-usb-cgminer

The guide is for a 64 bit OS, so that my be a snag if you are 32 bit. But you might try just substituting the 32 bit version of AMD-APP-SDK v.2.4 for the 64 bit version called for in the guide. See the part at the end of this guide on how to write a script

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gw7YPYgMgNNU42skibULbJJUx_suP_CpjSEdSi8_z9U/edit?pli=1

I recommend that you write the script from scratch in nano (rather than trying to cut+paste or use a standard text editor). So, just type "nano" at terminal and enter the script. When you are done, Ctrl+o, type in file name, then ENTER to save, and Ctrl+x to quit. Otherwise, you can just follow the guide above (btw, the other part of the guide for installing cgminer on xubuntu 12.04 did not work for me, but you might try it also).

Peppermint will offer an automated install of proprietary AMD drivers, but *do not* do that - instead, just follow kano's guide. To install to HD, just click on the "Install Peppermint" icon on the desktop after you boot from live CD/usb.    

Compared to BAMT, I'm seeing ~2% increase in efficiency and I can clock my 5850s a little higher. And the desktop is much more responsive. I prefer this set up over BAMT.  

Thanks for this. I might consider this, but I am still waiting on someone to help me out with the could not mount /dev/loop0 error. You know anything about this?

No, sorry. Have you tried dd-ing BAMT straight to the hard drive? Put the BAMT image on a usb stick, then boot from CD with any version of linux. Put the usb with BAMT on it into your usb port then do

sudo fdisk -l

to find the name of your hard drive (should be "sda"). Next,

sudo dd if=/path/to/bamt.img of=/dev/sda

If your HD has a different name, then replace "sda" with whatever it is. I don't remember where, but I came across a post by another forum member who did this with success. Sorry if you have already tried this and I missed it (I didn't read all the posts carefully).


Title: Re: BAMT on a Hard Drive
Post by: Dargo on May 29, 2012, 10:49:21 PM
If you haven't seen it already, here's another discussion about putting BAMT on HD (this is where I ran across the idea of using dd).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28967.1020