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Title: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: adhitthana on November 03, 2014, 03:07:43 AM
http://cryptome.org/2014/11/ms-onedrive-nsa-prism.htm


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: bassclef on November 03, 2014, 03:55:34 AM
So don't store private keys in onedrive. It's easy to disable in Windows 8.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 03, 2014, 05:23:40 AM
Bitlocker is closed source. Can't be trusted.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: lyth0s on November 03, 2014, 05:31:50 AM
You should assume that Microsoft has bitlocker backdoored in coordination with the NSA.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Elwar on November 03, 2014, 08:18:30 AM
Hmmm...I have a feeling that Bitlocker does not work on my cold storage device.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Biitcoin on November 03, 2014, 08:33:56 AM
and That's why we should switch to Linux maybe   ???


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: ForgottenPassword on November 03, 2014, 10:59:13 AM
I'm surprised this was only posted on cryptome recently. This has been known about for quite sometime.

Windows also does something similar with EFS.

Even if you do join a domain it sends the key to the domain admin, Microsoft have made it very difficult to use their encryption tools without a third party having your private key.

Best to use the encryption tools provided by your wallet software and not solely rely on BitLocker or EFS.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: lightningmccoin on November 03, 2014, 01:28:15 PM
and That's why we should switch to Linux maybe   ???

Couldn't afford that linux thing.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Cryptowatch.com on November 03, 2014, 01:36:25 PM
I can't understand why people seriously involved with bitcoin does not use linux. It's not that hard to set up and install.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: BitUsher on November 03, 2014, 01:46:54 PM
If you have to use windows use -

1) https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/

or in the near future

2) https://ciphershed.org/

Consider both of these as secure solutions against most third parties but any NSA/FBI targeted attack is difficult to protect against in windows or osx as these are heavily rooted and compromised systems.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: kanggoroo on November 03, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
in some country internet users is not familiar with linux.
and yes bitlocker is closed source , must careful with that.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 03, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
in some country internet users is not familiar with linux.
and yes bitlocker is closed source , must careful with that.

In all countries most users are unfamiliar with Linux, the point is to be honest about security and treat OSX,IOS,Windows,and all smartphones as compromised and insecure environments by design.

If you are serious about security you need to learn to use distros like https://tails.boum.org


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: bitllionaire on November 03, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
I would use truecrypt better than bitlocker
its 7.1 release has not been compromised


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Biitcoin on November 03, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
and That's why we should switch to Linux maybe   ???

Couldn't afford that linux thing.

Couldn't afford ? what do you mean , Linux is a free Open Source operating system :o


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Cryptowatch.com on November 03, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
and That's why we should switch to Linux maybe   ???

Couldn't afford that linux thing.

Couldn't afford ? what do you mean , Linux is a free Open Source operating system :o

Yes, and also these facts:

- Windows is closed source
- Windows runs windows update automatically (do you trust Microsoft and their partners?) and thus makes an easy entrance to your OS.
- Most malware is targeted at Windows users, and you can become infected just from visiting a malware spreading website, or downloading  software that contains malware you don't know about.
- Linux is not that prone to viruses.
- Linux has stronger security.
- You don't need to pay money from linux.
- Linux has more frequent updates.
- Linux is very customizable. If something annoys you, you can write a script or change a key-binding or whatever to get the desired behaviour.

There are several user friendly linux versions, and it's not hard to get started. Imo, the benefits here are much larger than the drawbacks.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: harrymmmm on November 04, 2014, 01:27:40 AM
and That's why we should switch to Linux maybe   ???

Couldn't afford that linux thing.

Couldn't afford ? what do you mean , Linux is a free Open Source operating system :o

Yes, and also these facts:

- Windows is closed source
- Windows runs windows update automatically (do you trust Microsoft and their partners?) and thus makes an easy entrance to your OS.
- Most malware is targeted at Windows users, and you can become infected just from visiting a malware spreading website, or downloading  software that contains malware you don't know about.
- Linux is not that prone to viruses.
- Linux has stronger security.
- You don't need to pay money from linux.
- Linux has more frequent updates.
- Linux is very customizable. If something annoys you, you can write a script or change a key-binding or whatever to get the desired behaviour.

There are several user friendly linux versions, and it's not hard to get started. Imo, the benefits here are much larger than the drawbacks.

And while we're listing facts:
It's not that difficult to install linux in a MS windows virtual machine now, so you get to learn about linux (and all the apps available there) without having to boot a separate system or buy another computer.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: moriartybitcoin on November 04, 2014, 01:32:09 AM
BitLocker = 100% NSA backdoored .. bet on it!!


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Soros Shorts on November 04, 2014, 09:06:52 AM
I would use truecrypt better than bitlocker
its 7.1 release has not been compromised

Bitlocker has some nice features such as the ability to store the private keys in hardware using TPM compatible devices. Regardless of what tiinfoil hatters might think about TPM, this is a very useful feature for servers that need to auto-boot without human intervention, yet at the same time keep data at rest encrypted. I wished TrueCrypt had this feature.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: campycoin on November 04, 2014, 03:07:19 PM
BitLocker = 100% NSA backdoored .. bet on it!!

I promise you folks, that bitlocker will not steal $80,000 from you like the Scam Site Lord above me, Michael Moriarty might.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 04, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
I promise you folks, that bitlocker will not steal $80,000 from you like the Scam Site Lord above me, Michael Moriarty might.

Are you sure about that?

Both are fundamentally insecure I would posit.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: campycoin on November 04, 2014, 04:13:23 PM
I promise you folks, that bitlocker will not steal $80,000 from you like the Scam Site Lord above me, Michael Moriarty might.

Are you sure about that?

Both are fundamentally insecure I would posit.

Good point... moral is, don't use any service that is run by Moriarty.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: bornil267645 on November 04, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
I also use windows 8 but I don't store my private keys in onedrive. You should play it smart.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 04, 2014, 04:21:45 PM
I also use windows 8 but I don't store my private keys in onedrive. You should play it smart.

Don't do anything illegal or even controversial on windows or osx OS's. They are compromised.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on November 04, 2014, 05:16:31 PM
Don't store more coins in your desktop wallet than you need for day to day activity and this isn't an issue. It is more than just private key security, desktop wallets are prone to software crashes, physical damage and so on. This should apply to hardware wallets as well. 


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: Beliathon on November 04, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
Bitlocker is closed source. Can't be trusted.
This.


Title: Re: Does Bitlocker give the NSA possible access to private keys?
Post by: leopard2 on November 05, 2014, 01:25:19 AM
Of course. Secret court orders probably in place already.

No coincidence that Truecrypt was discontinued and the devs recommended to use Bitlocker

ROFL  :D