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Title: blockchain.info
Post by: leen93 on November 04, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
Hello,
I recently started using blockchain to make some small payments
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i (https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i)
but every time i make a transaction i need to wait at least 1 confirmation before i can do the next one


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: newIndia on November 04, 2014, 12:56:31 PM
Hello,
I recently started using blockchain to make some small payments
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i (https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i)
but every time i make a transaction i need to wait at least 1 confirmation before i can do the next one

That is normal from blockchain.info's end to counter double spend attack towards the network.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: leen93 on November 04, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Hello,
I recently started using blockchain to make some small payments
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i (https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i)
but every time i make a transaction i need to wait at least 1 confirmation before i can do the next one

That is normal from blockchain.info's end to counter double spend attack towards the network.
but if i have 100 btc in my wallet,
and i send 10 to someone
why can't i send 10 btc to someone else immediately?
si there a way to get this done?


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: newIndia on November 04, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
Hello,
I recently started using blockchain to make some small payments
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i (https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i)
but every time i make a transaction i need to wait at least 1 confirmation before i can do the next one

That is normal from blockchain.info's end to counter double spend attack towards the network.
but if i have 100 btc in my wallet,
and i send 10 to someone
why can't i send 10 btc to someone else immediately?
si there a way to get this done?

Because bitcoin works differently. When u r sending 10 BTC out of 100, it might be that u r actually sending 99 BTC where 89 BTC is coming back to your address. blockchain.info does not know about as they dont store your data. they do all the calculations on the fly. hence they wont allow.

u wont probably face this problem on coinbase because they store your data including private key. hence they are not a recommended wallet service.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on November 04, 2014, 01:09:29 PM

You could just download bitcoin QT and control your private keys and send as much as you like as quick as you like.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Welsh on November 04, 2014, 01:15:47 PM
Download Bitcoin-qt and be in full control of everything. Otherwise, your going have to wait around 10 minutes for the block to confirm, it's to counteract double spends and shouldn't affect many people because 10 minutes isn't really that long.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: BiTJack on November 04, 2014, 01:17:32 PM
Use some other offline client blockchain does that to prevent double spend attack.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: leen93 on November 04, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
Download Bitcoin-qt and be in full control of everything. Otherwise, your going have to wait around 10 minutes for the block to confirm, it's to counteract double spends and shouldn't affect many people because 10 minutes isn't really that long.
waiting 10 minutes between every transaction is not so useful when you have to make a few 100 transactions, ill download a bitcoin-qt tx


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Welsh on November 04, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
waiting 10 minutes between every transaction is not so useful when you have to make a few 100 transactions, ill download a bitcoin-qt tx
I agree, if you need to send more than the average person needs to send out in a small time frame. Blockchain.info is for casual users who normally are just getting started & don't have much stored on there, if you are sending a lot of transactions you probably have a decent amount of Bitcoin or enough to take extra security measures so Bitcoin-qt is the right move in both aspects.


Plus if anything goes wrong with the Bitcoin-qt or you make a mistake there is much more support available and generally easier to fix certain things.

Some people use blockchain.info as a hot wallet too.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: fast2fix on November 04, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
Download Bitcoin-qt and be in full control of everything. Otherwise, your going have to wait around 10 minutes for the block to confirm, it's to counteract double spends and shouldn't affect many people because 10 minutes isn't really that long.
waiting 10 minutes between every transaction is not so useful when you have to make a few 100 transactions, ill download a bitcoin-qt tx
you can also try electrum wallet Lightweight client.so, that you don't have to wait for the blockcahin to download.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: leen93 on November 04, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
downloading electrum now
actually it is for relatively small amounts (just to give away some small bonusses of eg. 1 mBTC) so I'll not have a lot of BTC there


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: leen93 on November 05, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
electrum is not able to do transacton with lower fees than 0.1 mbtc? (most of the payments i make are 0.1 mbtc so the miner fee would be the same as the transaction :s)
in blockchain i always used 0.01 mbtc and always went through within half an hour


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: PenAndPaper on November 05, 2014, 02:13:52 PM
(most of the payments i make are 0.1 mbtc so the miner fee would be the same as the transaction :s)

Such small transactions are considered non-standard and will not be mined by most miners anyway...


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Supercrypt on November 05, 2014, 02:21:51 PM
if you have fast internet connection and some free space on your system
then you are recommended to download bitcoin core wallet to avoid such issues


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: leen93 on November 05, 2014, 07:28:14 PM
(most of the payments i make are 0.1 mbtc so the miner fee would be the same as the transaction :s)

Such small transactions are considered non-standard and will not be mined by most miners anyway...
if i make them they go all through very fast, most within 10 minutes, just 1 of my last 30 transactions took over half an hour


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: bitllionaire on November 06, 2014, 12:07:42 AM
you may solve it creating some addresses and spreading your bitcoins between the adresses
so if you need to make a new transaction you can use your available addresses


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Centaurus on November 06, 2014, 12:27:39 AM
It is because you need to wait until the other 90BTC return to your wallet.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: ranochigo on November 06, 2014, 06:06:35 AM
if you have fast internet connection and some free space on your system
then you are recommended to download bitcoin core wallet to avoid such issues
Fast internet connection doesn't matter. If you have a celeron CPU and HDD with super fast connection speed, you are going to sync slower than another person with core I7 and SSD with slow connection speed. IO speed and CPU processing speed is also one of the factors in syncing. It's going to take sometime even with those speed. You must go to options, wallet and ensure the option, spend unconfirmed change is checked.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: LiberyOrDeath on November 06, 2014, 06:30:10 AM
Most sites require 3-6 confirmations , this is normal .


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: paullinator on November 06, 2014, 08:20:28 AM
Hello,
I recently started using blockchain to make some small payments
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i (https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i)
but every time i make a transaction i need to wait at least 1 confirmation before i can do the next one

The Airbitz wallet will not require you to wait a full confirmation to spend "change" from a previous spend. It only requires you to wait for confirmations before spending funds you receive from an outside source. Check out the wallet for iOS or Android at http://airbitz.co/app


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on November 06, 2014, 12:08:12 PM
Hello,
I recently started using blockchain to make some small payments
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i (https://blockchain.info/nl/address/16w7viWCHAygsQtMUNZzn7xk987pgJKn5i)
but every time i make a transaction i need to wait at least 1 confirmation before i can do the next one

That is normal from blockchain.info's end to counter double spend attack towards the network.
but if i have 100 btc in my wallet,
and i send 10 to someone
why can't i send 10 btc to someone else immediately?
si there a way to get this done?

you should not hold 100 BTC there. put some in cold storage.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: themys on November 06, 2014, 01:00:38 PM
its normal, in general its need 6 confirmations.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Vocal on November 06, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
The most trustful online wallet ;)


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 06, 2014, 05:04:30 PM
The most trustful online wallet ;)

Why the wink?

I don't use it but as a hot wallet it's 100% the safest wallet online.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: silvestar on November 07, 2014, 12:07:02 PM
You can split your bitcoin into multiple smaller pieces (eg. you hold 10 pieces of 1 btc, instead of 1 piece of 10 btc).
You can also group the payments together and send them out in one single transaction (click "custom" and the "plus sign" to add more destination addresses).


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: pooya87 on November 07, 2014, 07:05:18 PM
Download Bitcoin-qt and be in full control of everything. Otherwise, your going have to wait around 10 minutes for the block to confirm, it's to counteract double spends and shouldn't affect many people because 10 minutes isn't really that long.
waiting 10 minutes between every transaction is not so useful when you have to make a few 100 transactions, ill download a bitcoin-qt tx
you can combine all the transactions into one and sent it one time like this one:
https://blockchain.info/tx/1798a46670d2cf514337cc2f2925c22ee5fc2efb1b0bca6f9ca0a1162097b00d

this way you send one time and to everyone and also pay fee once


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Pudifu on November 11, 2014, 08:27:09 AM
electrum wallet........maybe it will help you. you try blockchain to download


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Loophole on November 11, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
As others said, you could make multiple payouts in one single transaction.

Since the size of transaction is roughly calculated as
Code:
in*180 + out*34 + 10 plus or minus 'in'
from http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1195/how-to-calculate-transaction-size-before-sending, you can fit 23 payouts in one transaction and pay the same 0.0001 fee if you use just 1 input.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: beatleap on November 11, 2014, 02:26:36 PM
electrum wallet........maybe it will help you. you try blockchain to download

Bitcoin-qt is the best for cold storage and blockchain.info for hot wallets electrum are for beginners.


Title: Re: blockchain.info
Post by: Loophole on November 11, 2014, 02:49:25 PM
electrum wallet........maybe it will help you. you try blockchain to download

Bitcoin-qt is the best for cold storage and blockchain.info for hot wallets electrum are for beginners.

Electrum is easy to use, but it is not only for beginners. It has a few benefits over bitcoin qt like the thin-client and deterministic feature. Electrum is pretty safe as well and offer 128bit entropy for the seed.

For cold storage, Armory and hardware wallet Trezor are great as well.