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Title: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on November 05, 2014, 03:51:12 PM
Here's the pastebin I wrote today about RZR:


http://pastebin.com/zwKZQhu4



First “Razortech” (an anonymous developer out of nowhere nobody knows about) created a coin called Razor (RZR), which was a complete copy of a scamcoin called Neutrino (a 100% premined  scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657607.0). Razortech just copied the idea (using Tor) and code of Neutrino, and made it without premine so that they could advertise the “No premine” shit to make the coin seem legit.
The coin tried to capitalise on the anonymity trend in shitcoins going on at the time (DRK, CRYPT, CLOAK and similar shitcoins), they knew the hype was gonna come. The coin had no premine, but the mining schedule was made so that there would be huge inflation (new coins mined) during the first weeks so that miners would profit big from noobs who would get exited about a new anon Tor coin (and bring the price to an unsustainable level right away).

Bryce Weiner (who worked at BlockTech at the time) saw the opportunity to get involved and hype a coin that would be highly profitable for miners (that's what he does, he creates new coins, he mines and dumps them “I make money out of thin air”  http://pastebin.com/VGyVPHN4)  so he started “working” and “developing” RZR along with RazorTech.

To hype a little more, Razortech said that a SMS gateway was in testing and coming shortly, and they said that they had a new solution that would anonymise transactions in the blockchain better than traditional coin mixing and that solution was in testing and ready to launch shortly too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=644498.msg7566115#msg7566115
These features were NEVER RELEASED (they were likely a lie).  

A decentralised market like Openbazaar (well basically a copy of Openbazaar...) using RZR named “RZRoad” was also promised.   


The coin started going apeshit on Twitter and Weiner was hyping it with all his strength. The inflation was ridiculous (250-300 BTCs a day) and some  were getting concerned and warned people (https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/479939530733412352), but Weiner continued hyping (price was around 200k-300k satoshis at the time).


After a few days from RZR Bittrex listing, price crashed and pretty much continued crashing with some dead cat bounces here and there to eventually reach 5k satoshis (today's price).

Price continued bleeding with no real developments, no features, no new tech, no nothing.
Razortech and Weiner don't care, because their “MineHypeDump” mission was complete.

Now Razortech has gone missing, Devon Read (Blocktech CEO) said “we don't have plans to use Razor in anything”, and seems like Weiner will not develop the coin any further from here (https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/529381868677128192).

Bryce Weiner is fired (“he quit for ethical reasons”, yeah right LMAO) from  Blocktech and he's probably gonna try to continue create new shitcoins while keeping the whole “MineHypeDump” scheme intact.



RZR was a con. A clusterfuck. A highly profitable (for early miners only though, dumping on noobs) cheap copy of a scamcoin that had 0 real developments since its launch.

Bryce Weiner is an incompetent developer who gets people screwed at best, an outright conman and scammer at worst.
Simply stay away from anything he touches as a developer.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on November 05, 2014, 06:21:57 PM
Thanks CryptoArticles for publishing my story!

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/razor-another-altcoin-that-failed-to-deliver-on-promises-and-is-slowly-dying


 :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: jdebunt on November 05, 2014, 06:40:21 PM
Thanks CryptoArticles for publishing my story!

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/razor-another-altcoin-that-failed-to-deliver-on-promises-and-is-slowly-dying


 :)

You're welcome :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: nutildah on November 05, 2014, 07:52:36 PM
Moral of the story. There are some developers who are simply bad people. They are full of shit, through and through. No matter how many chances you give them, no matter what promises they offer, no matter how glittery the path to free money is, these people will always con you in the end. They are psychopaths and can't help themselves.

Bryce Weiner
IconicExpert
IGotSpot
The Monero/HYP devs
The XC Devs

I'm sure there's plenty more to add... feel free to add to the list.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on November 05, 2014, 08:12:22 PM
Moral of the story. There are some developers who are simply bad people. They are full of shit, through and through. No matter how many chances you give them, no matter what promises they offer, no matter how glittery the path to free money is, these people will always con you in the end. They are psychopaths and can't help themselves.

Bryce Weiner
IconicExpert
IGotSpot
The Monero/HYP devs
The XC Devs

I'm sure there's plenty more to add... feel free to add to the list.

Yeah, there is the dirty underbelly of the alt scene. As a community we should really do more to highlight the shady assholes in the scene like the ones you mention.

Not sure I would put any of the Monero devs on that list though. Putting them on a list with Dan Metcalf and anyone involved with XC is just a real low blow. :D

Some people in the Monero community are toxic. But the devs are generally decent people I think. Some more than others. Not sure about David Lapatie though now that he's knee deep in HYP. That doesn't reflect well on Monero. Surprised the community stands for that connection. HYP is basically an alcoin Ponzi. It should just be called HYIP instead. :D


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: nutildah on November 05, 2014, 08:49:27 PM
I don't know if you could call IE a real developer. Sure, he knows how to clone coins and skin a simple USB launcher, but that's not really indicative of anything other than some minimal knowledge. To call him a dev is similar to calling all first semester students who took Java and got a passing grade developers. If anything, he's a scam artist who knows how to copy and paste.

Pretty much the exact same thing can be said about Bryce Weiner. I'm just including people who _claimed_ to be devs at one point or another (amongst many, many other things).


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: WowWtf on November 05, 2014, 09:57:18 PM
Moral of the story. There are some developers who are simply bad people. They are full of shit, through and through. No matter how many chances you give them, no matter what promises they offer, no matter how glittery the path to free money is, these people will always con you in the end. They are psychopaths and can't help themselves.

Bryce Weiner
IconicExpert
IGotSpot
The Monero/HYP devs
The XC Devs

I'm sure there's plenty more to add... feel free to add to the list.

Yeah, there is the dirty underbelly of the alt scene. As a community we should really do more to highlight the shady assholes in the scene like the ones you mention.

Not sure I would put any of the Monero devs on that list though. Putting them on a list with Dan Metcalf and anyone involved with XC is just a real low blow. :D

Some people in the Monero community are toxic. But the devs are generally decent people I think. Some more than others. Not sure about David Lapatie though now that he's knee deep in HYP. That doesn't reflect well on Monero. Surprised the community stands for that connection. HYP is basically an alcoin Ponzi. It should just be called HYIP instead. :D

Nutildah is a known troll/retard, kind of like a lesser, more retarded clone of Spoetnik. Anything he says, do the opposite. Anything he suggests, believe the opposite. That's all I have to say.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: PhattyBanks on November 05, 2014, 10:39:59 PM
Anybody remember that Max Scheisse guy back when coinmarkets was like the Bryce fanboy lounge? He would come in there and shit all over Bryce and his projects and get kicked, he was hilarious, does anybody know who that really was?

Personally I didn't lose anything on Weiner coins, I just mined them, a couple were pretty profitable like that blake coin he made where you could mine and dump 3 coins for btc and the 4th coin his coin you could trade for NAUT. I really can't hate on him for that one.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on November 05, 2014, 10:52:23 PM
Anybody remember that Max Scheisse guy back when coinmarkets was like the Bryce fanboy lounge? He would come in there and shit all over Bryce and his projects and get kicked, he was hilarious, does anybody know who that really was?

Personally I didn't lose anything on Weiner coins, I just mined them, a couple were pretty profitable like that blake coin he made where you could mine and dump 3 coins for btc and the 4th coin his coin you could trade for NAUT. I really can't hate on him for that one.
The majority of shitcoins around are scams, so if you profit from them nobody is gonna have a problem with you, you just put a bid and an ask in a market and somebody accepted your offer.

But as a developer, if you create coins made only to be mined and dumped on noobs (the purpose of Weiner shitcoins and the reason he creates coins) and deceive people with STRAIGHT LIES, I will call you a Pump&Dump scammer and for good reasons.



PS: Max Scheisse is still on Twitter https://twitter.com/MaxScheisse


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on November 08, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Just a reminder to stay away from Weiner coins:




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvjBbogCMAAMGCT.jpg


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 10, 2014, 12:31:55 AM
Remember when RZR was trading at > .002?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on November 10, 2014, 08:39:56 PM
Notice how RazorTech on his twitter account hasn't said shit since Weiner got fired from BlockTech and and the whole "we need to implement Proof of Stake" shit

https://twitter.com/TheRazorCoin/with_replies



"Scammer who run away" much?

That "developer" didn't do anything since launch. Copied the code and idea of a scamcoin, put a scammy mining schedule for big profit. Looked for the help of other fools or Pump and Dumpers like Weiner to hype, promised some features that were never released, and now basically run away.


Looks like a scheme that comes out of a "How to be a scammer" manual.





Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on November 10, 2014, 08:48:29 PM
Remember when RZR was trading at > .002?
Yep, this community is easy to fool


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: sirsmokesalot on November 10, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Is this not what one gets for blindly following individuals?

In a zero-sum game there is going to be a loser for every winner. My biggest question now is how long can this sustain itself? When will everyone finally just be like "yup, fuck crypto, nothing much but scams"?

Later than sooner i hope. 


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: smalltimer on November 10, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
does anyone have some more decent info what the issue was at blocktech and why exactly Bryce left there?

I think Razor fell victim to Bryce and Blocktech parting ways. Would love to know what happened there.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: choeymethod on November 11, 2014, 12:44:22 AM
does anyone have some more decent info what the issue was at blocktech and why exactly Bryce left there?

I think Razor fell victim to Bryce and Blocktech parting ways. Would love to know what happened there.
Same, especially after he posts some idealistic shit on Twitter like he is a saint.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: smalltimer on November 11, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
does anyone have some more decent info what the issue was at blocktech and why exactly Bryce left there?

I think Razor fell victim to Bryce and Blocktech parting ways. Would love to know what happened there.
Same, especially after he posts some idealistic shit on Twitter like he is a saint.

i think all that is undisclosed because it's very likely so childish everyone involved would look like a fool. Just what i currently think.

Probably 2 or 3 adult children. Each of them just want to have their way and end up destroing investors funds over their own characters and inability to communicate in a non-violent way. The usual crap ...

I sure do hope Razor can be salvaged but i am not sure if the community is strong enough to carry it. Threads like this one surely don't help the RZR-bagholders a single inch. It's quite obvious this is aimed at destroing the reputation of Bryce on the expense of everyone else. In this particular case (rzr) positive and constructive people have to take the lead otherwise the last bit of hope will be fully damaged by the enemies of the Bryce-character.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Honeypot on November 11, 2014, 06:29:25 AM
does anyone have some more decent info what the issue was at blocktech and why exactly Bryce left there?

I think Razor fell victim to Bryce and Blocktech parting ways. Would love to know what happened there.
Same, especially after he posts some idealistic shit on Twitter like he is a saint.

i think all that is undisclosed because it's very likely so childish everyone involved would look like a fool. Just what i currently think.

Probably 2 or 3 adult children. Each of them just want to have their way and end up destroing investors funds over their own characters and inability to communicate in a non-violent way. The usual crap ...

I sure do hope Razor can be salvaged but i am not sure if the community is strong enough to carry it. Threads like this one surely don't help the RZR-bagholders a single inch. It's quite obvious this is aimed at destroing the reputation of Bryce on the expense of everyone else. In this particular case (rzr) positive and constructive people have to take the lead otherwise the last bit of hope will be fully damaged by the enemies of the Bryce-character.

Leaning toward that conclusion regarding blocktech myself.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: shimlbit on November 11, 2014, 06:08:48 PM
sorry for all that lost money but rzr was the best coin for me since i am in crypto..i just made 6 btc of an invest of 0.05 btc..i sold at 200k

the onkly thing is i didnt sold everything..i wanted to hold some...
sold around 3000 and had 2k in wallet...but i sold this coin month later  @50k

but i made some money..


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: BlueDragon747 on November 14, 2014, 12:35:36 AM
Personally I didn't lose anything on Weiner coins, I just mined them, a couple were pretty profitable like that blake coin he made where you could mine and dump 3 coins for btc and the 4th coin his coin you could trade for NAUT. I really can't hate on him for that one.

He only broke code Bryce did not make any coins imho especially a Blake based coin he does not even seem to be able to compile coin wallets atm :o

most if not all the working code and compiled wallets for his coins seem to be done by other devs wonder why  ::)

you can see from the github commits I was the fool who fixed and got Dirac working and also ran all the nodes and merged mined it on my pools but I am working on other projects namely the mmo games and Bryce did not like that as I would not do anymore work on coins and would not setup a merged pool on demand which resulted in him getting very abusive to me via DM and email which you can see some of that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616288.msg9527356#msg9527356

I never asked for any type of payment for any thing I have done with Blake based coin projects and I also really dislike the premine and ipo/ico crap that is also far too common if anyone wants to send coins to a dev because they have actually done some work great but these other schemes should be avoided as there is not any proof a dev will produce results after they have x% of a coin they claim to be the dev of or a big bag of BTC ::)

atm I am stuck with running the nodes for XDQ and maintaining it on the merged pools and it sucks but from the 30/11/2014 Dirac XDQ will no longer be mined on the Blakecoin.com merged pools, few more coins in the merge since Dirac anyways and room for more main issue is finding other good devs that want to make Blake based coins far too many multi account scammers about who just want to do P&D scams and not do any development or find uses for the coins they are involved in  :o

I will continue as before doing what developers should do which is developing systems and maintaining projects over time not marketing, hype, spin, false promises of "Profit"

Talk is cheap results are what counts  8)


Note: Market price does not equal results or development as they are far to easy to manipulate and is often the way these scam coins are hyped
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

Edit:
Another thing I know for sure is that Bryce uses multiple accounts both here and on twitter (both haters and lovers which is kind of weird)

it would not surprise me if he setup an account just so he could say it was not him after paying someone to make the coin for him
Quote from: Bryce Weiner
I'll go and do it myself.  If I can't do it I'll pay someone to do it.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: zing96 on November 15, 2014, 04:24:23 PM
I remember when RZR was trading at > .002.  Then Bruce tried to revive it and it got a little bump.  Unfortunately, RZR is exactly what happens to a lot of alts on a long enough timeline.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on November 15, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
From what I've seen Bryce the Weiner is involved in scam after scam.

But here's the thing which people don't get.  The guy is totally incompetent as a coder. Last year he was asking around for advice how to compile a wallet in windows.  The guy is an idiot at programming and he's a bigger idiot at things like economics.  I have corrected him so many times regarding elementary issues, on twitter and he just deletes his tweets and lies about everything.

So I have to wonder how such an incompetent idiot is everywhere and gets so much credit when he knows nothing?

The most plausible answer I can think of is that Bryce is a fed, or most likely - given his low IQ, a snitch working for the Feds.

Either way, I would never touch anything that idiot is involved in unless you plan to dump it the second they pump their usual scam.

Community:  Beware of BRYCE, you have been warned!


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: solid12345 on November 16, 2014, 04:57:37 AM

The guy is an idiot at programming and he's a bigger idiot at things like economics. 

I laughed my ass off when he promised his big puff article on how he will "expose" Urocoin as a fraud. First he said the company Green Earth Systems wasn't real and was a ma and pa operation posing as a big company. When I showed him a photo of the CEO chilling with the President of Fiji, suddenly he had to change fud tactics to publishing a guest article on Seaman's blog on how Uro will create an economic "blackhole" and bankrupt tens of thousands of farmers by destabilizing the international Urea market. Bear in mind the total value of all Uro equals 1% of the yearly fertilizer market output....


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Chang Hum on November 16, 2014, 01:06:49 PM

The guy is an idiot at programming and he's a bigger idiot at things like economics.

I laughed my ass off when he promised his big puff article on how he will "expose" Urocoin as a fraud. First he said the company Green Earth Systems wasn't real and was a ma and pa operation posing as a big company. When I showed him a photo of the CEO chilling with the President of Fiji, suddenly he had to change fud tactics to publishing a guest article on Seaman's blog on how Uro will create an economic "blackhole" and bankrupt tens of thousands of farmers by destabilizing the international Urea market. Bear in mind the total value of all Uro equals 1% of the yearly fertilizer market output....

You boggle my mind. GES is cctv shop owned by Nilesh's wife at which he's an EMPLOYEE because he's an undischarged bankrupt. If you look at the shop on google maps it's not even called GES presumably because it's shit branding for a CCTV shop.

The largest island of Fiji has the population of a city around 500k and is where Nilesh is from!! In the photo you're referring to the prime minister of fiji was tendering a solar electricity contract for which Nilesh applied and surprise surprise didn't get, because as a CCTV shop employee he's really not well placed to bid on such work no mater how good a bullshit artist he is.

Seriously Mike you were a fucking moron to believe that shit in the first place but 6 months on to think a 30000% arbitrage can still exist I really pitty you.

It's fair for me to say Bryce Weiners an idiot because all things are relative but for you to call him an idiot??? WTF dude I question how you've got the capacity to do your shoe laces up.

No doubt you're not going to listen so my advice to you is buy all the Uro you possibly can, even Warren Buffet only looks for about 10% growth in companies he invests in so the fact you've found a company offering a 30000% return must make you a financial genius!


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: paradigmflux on November 20, 2014, 05:42:48 PM

The guy is an idiot at programming and he's a bigger idiot at things like economics.

I laughed my ass off when he promised his big puff article on how he will "expose" Urocoin as a fraud. First he said the company Green Earth Systems wasn't real and was a ma and pa operation posing as a big company. When I showed him a photo of the CEO chilling with the President of Fiji, suddenly he had to change fud tactics to publishing a guest article on Seaman's blog on how Uro will create an economic "blackhole" and bankrupt tens of thousands of farmers by destabilizing the international Urea market. Bear in mind the total value of all Uro equals 1% of the yearly fertilizer market output....

You boggle my mind. GES is cctv shop owned by Nilesh's wife at which he's an EMPLOYEE because he's an undischarged bankrupt. If you look at the shop on google maps it's not even called GES presumably because it's shit branding for a CCTV shop.

The largest island of Fiji has the population of a city around 500k and is where Nilesh is from!! In the photo you're referring to the prime minister of fiji was tendering a solar electricity contract for which Nilesh applied and surprise surprise didn't get, because as a CCTV shop employee he's really not well placed to bid on such work no mater how good a bullshit artist he is.

Seriously Mike you were a fucking moron to believe that shit in the first place but 6 months on to think a 30000% arbitrage can still exist I really pitty you.

It's fair for me to say Bryce Weiners an idiot because all things are relative but for you to call him an idiot??? WTF dude I question how you've got the capacity to do your shoe laces up.

No doubt you're not going to listen so my advice to you is buy all the Uro you possibly can, even Warren Buffet only looks for about 10% growth in companies he invests in so the fact you've found a company offering a 30000% return must make you a financial genius!
lol
well played


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: solid12345 on November 21, 2014, 12:09:20 AM


The largest island of Fiji has the population of a city around 500k and is where Nilesh is from!! In the photo you're referring to the prime minister of fiji was tendering a solar electricity contract for which Nilesh applied and surprise surprise didn't get, because as a CCTV shop employee he's really not well placed to bid on such work no mater how good a bullshit artist he is.


lol I know, what a shithole Fiji is, I guess that's why the Indian PM is in town today visiting Nilesh's old buddy Frank Bainimarama taking selfies and discussing the weather!  

https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/535418986159038466

http://www.firstpost.com/world/modi-in-fiji-live-pm-bainimarama-says-he-is-proud-to-have-india-as-a-future-partner-1802629.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B24wuriCcAAsA5K.jpg

Hmmm and look what GES just retweeted 2 days ago when the Indian Prime Minister was in Australia, things that make you go hmmm...

https://i.imgur.com/lJNYGu7.png





Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Chang Hum on November 21, 2014, 01:02:30 AM
you're implying the Australian businessman is Nilesh? you win Mike  :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on December 10, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Time to bump this.

RazorTech the scammer (who probably is Bryce Weiner himself) started tweeting again. Some vague bullshit as always.





https://i.imgur.com/y0rhyOa.png


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on December 10, 2014, 05:41:50 PM
Told them on day first that choosing Scrypt for their algo would be a really bad idea.
It was an excellent idea giving the point of the whole "project".  

Mining.
Hyping.
Dumping.

Scamming everybody.


The Bryce Weiner way.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
MTC Football Mashup http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/blog/morning-edition/2014/12/ucf-and-nc-state-a-good-mix-for-Marinecoin-st.html


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 07:07:18 PM
insectoida are in war with lizards...


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
well they were going to do that anyway


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
nooo sell Marinecoin


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 07:19:39 PM
Ah I love my furrly bears.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 07:22:06 PM
I did natural med in another life, some herbs are supposed to aid in moving some toxins out.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
THe blockchain complexity has nothing to do with MTC price.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
keep selling shorters and dont worry cause the least can happen to you is your life to be shorterd hehe


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 07:34:27 PM
It's called tablet trading


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 07:39:23 PM
well not covered...


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 07:41:51 PM
Shots fired.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
Agreed. Also the link to the list of trolls was posted by a self-admitted troll. This place makes my head hurt


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 07:46:49 PM
Anyone seen the movie "Paul"?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 07:49:17 PM
buy some coffee with MTC


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 08:17:45 PM
Sidechains Could Turn Marinecoin into the Reserve Currency of the Internet


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 08:20:13 PM
I made 90% of my profitably crypto trades while drunk and 90% of my losing trades while sober. This proves to be a financial strategy of impulse over thought


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 08:22:41 PM
2015 is the Marinecoin year


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Anyone seen the movie "Paul"?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
does it have to take 3 years? some say yes...


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 08:35:02 PM
it's why I hold the majority of them for a rainy day :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 08:37:30 PM
It's called tablet trading


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
this is very untrue. random actions tend to a gaussian distribution, which is a VERY bad strategy.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
Marinecoin is a fairly new cryptocurrency that has been gained a lot of notoriety on the popular crypto forums and IRC channels as of late.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 08:49:50 PM
maan i loose that much in my SLEEP!!!


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 08:52:19 PM
no truth either


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 08:57:15 PM
Marinecoin, Fair enough :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 08:59:43 PM
It's called tablet trading


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 10:23:41 PM
Yes. That's why it's so popular


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 10:26:10 PM
ok, lets calm down and continue marinecoin pump


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 10:28:38 PM
It was literally originally written as a twillight fanfiction, but she changed the names and some of the nouns and then suddenly Edward Cullen was Christian Grey and a businessman


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 10:31:06 PM
if anyone listen to this chat will go nuts :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
TheGuru:


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 10:40:58 PM
big red candles means buy. then you can sell on the next big green candle.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
THe blockchain complexity has nothing to do with MTC price.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 10:45:55 PM
Marinecoin MTC 1100 soon


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 10:50:51 PM
sell BTC buy MTC


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
A more appropriate title for this thread would be "mind the cultists who think all skeptics are paid NSA plants".


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 11:00:44 PM
2015 is the Marinecoin year


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 11:03:12 PM
soon 1 mtc will equal 1 barrel of oil..


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 11:05:40 PM
this is very untrue. random actions tend to a gaussian distribution, which is a VERY bad strategy.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 11:13:04 PM
I hope the community non-profit encourages the growth of community leaders in a meritocracy. Contribution to this community can be in many forms. Just a few ideas:


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
Yes it will reinforce bitcoin security with marinecoin. However, this will convince the population of bitcoin that marinecoin is very important for them. If they think so, it will give more people reasons to start trading/buying/accepting marinecoins. This is what will really benefit marinecoin.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 11:18:01 PM
and we'll be here to sell them Marinecoin for .04


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
it's why I hold the majority of them for a rainy day :)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 11:25:26 PM
i dno, my old bird wanted me to do some wierd stuff after she read 50 shades of grey, does that count?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 11:27:54 PM
i dont know how you thought to do it like that.... its not going to give birth to unicorn marinecoin hybrids


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
Marinecoin movie production stage update pls:


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 11:40:14 PM
It was literally originally written as a twillight fanfiction, but she changed the names and some of the nouns and then suddenly Edward Cullen was Christian Grey and a businessman


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 11:42:43 PM
marinecoin 350


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 11:47:39 PM
xpm valued at 0.00038 by experts...


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 10, 2014, 11:50:07 PM
and we'll be here to sell them Marinecoin for .04


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 10, 2014, 11:52:35 PM
Is crypto done?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 10, 2014, 11:55:03 PM
Marinecoin Mary Sue character for easy projection of the reader gets screwed by a hot guy, who's also really rich, and disinterested in her as a person


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: solid12345 on December 10, 2014, 11:56:10 PM
Good news is we have a success story, after firing Bryce and Blocktech Gamerholic Coin is BACK!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888944.0

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2d9xqub.jpg&t=547&c=-_7U1N33GBu91g


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 11, 2014, 12:00:00 AM
and what is its utility according to these experts?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 11, 2014, 12:02:27 AM
lose*


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 11, 2014, 12:09:53 AM
anyone here been anal probed by a grey alien?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 11, 2014, 12:12:21 AM
soon 1 mtc will equal 1 barrel of oil..


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 11, 2014, 12:14:48 AM
not sure if this is a great idea. Marinecoin will crash sub 0.01 again


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CodeBunsf on December 11, 2014, 12:17:17 AM
does anyone know where to buy a good Email list- PLS HELP


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Soft_memberj on December 11, 2014, 12:19:45 AM
marinecoin MTC 1100 soon


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: likmep on December 11, 2014, 12:22:13 AM
that's also true


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on December 11, 2014, 11:49:12 AM
What the hell is happening in this thread?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: BitRod on April 15, 2015, 03:17:22 AM
Bryce Weiner and David Seaman sure were a fun couple. Bryce made David the bottom...


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Pepijn on April 15, 2015, 03:48:13 AM
Bryce Weiner and David Seaman sure were a fun couple. Bryce made David the bottom...

con-artist and coin-artist made for each other.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Liquid71 on August 20, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
Bryce Wiener is at it again..IPO for a new scam pump and dump and he even uses his name in public thinking nobody remembers lol

http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/tao-network-announces-the-crowdsale-of-its-cryptocurrency-and-the-tao-of-music-project/ (http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/tao-network-announces-the-crowdsale-of-its-cryptocurrency-and-the-tao-of-music-project/)


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: raphma on August 20, 2016, 09:40:21 PM
What the hell is happening in this thread?

it's the newbie attack, its happening.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: milly6 on September 25, 2016, 11:33:41 PM
Bryce Wiener is at it again..IPO for a new scam pump and dump and he even uses his name in public thinking nobody remembers lol

http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/tao-network-announces-the-crowdsale-of-its-cryptocurrency-and-the-tao-of-music-project/ (http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/tao-network-announces-the-crowdsale-of-its-cryptocurrency-and-the-tao-of-music-project/)

But isnt TAO doing what they actually said?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: bryceweiner on January 12, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
Since this is the first Google result when you search my name, I feel compelled to respond for the first time since these rumors surfaced.

First, Tao is doing exactly what I said it would do.

Second, not a single allegation set forth in this thread has ever been proved true.  I am not "Razortech," nor have I ever been.  Nor was Razor a "scam" of any kind, though the coin emission was very aggressive.

I abandoned Razor on the advice of my attorney.  It is also for this reason that Blocktech distanced itself from the network, as well.

The network faced several legal issues arising from liability that could not be avoided.  Other developers who have launched networks promising such anonymity face the same burden of legal liability.  The first time someone commits a crime using one of these networks the developer of the network may become liable to a civil claim for damages as it can be argued the act may have been impossible to commit without the existence of the network.  Given the design purpose of such networks is to obscure financial transactions from various forms of scrutiny, it can then be argued the developer intentionally created a network that facilitated the commission of the crime which created the damages holding them personally liable for them.

We are all working for a more balanced, decentralized world however we cannot ignore that we don't live in it just yet.  While some developers may not feel they are exposed to such a liability, I wasn't about to take that risk in 2014 when nobody knew how regulatory compliance was going to develop.

It built up tremendous ill will in the community when I abandoned that network, but I'd rather suffer trolls than court judgements.

I hope that clears things up.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 13, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
Lazarus
http://thediscipleproject.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Lazarus.jpg


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: Tanglemymind on January 13, 2017, 05:29:48 AM
Bryce Weiner has a throat punch coming his way.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: nutildah on January 13, 2017, 06:22:10 AM
Since this is the first Google result when you search my name, I feel compelled to respond for the first time since these rumors surfaced.

First, Tao is doing exactly what I said it would do.

Second, not a single allegation set forth in this thread has ever been proved true.  I am not "Razortech," nor have I ever been.  Nor was Razor a "scam" of any kind, though the coin emission was very aggressive.

I abandoned Razor on the advice of my attorney.  It is also for this reason that Blocktech distanced itself from the network, as well.

The network faced several legal issues arising from liability that could not be avoided.  Other developers who have launched networks promising such anonymity face the same burden of legal liability.  The first time someone commits a crime using one of these networks the developer of the network may become liable to a civil claim for damages as it can be argued the act may have been impossible to commit without the existence of the network.  Given the design purpose of such networks is to obscure financial transactions from various forms of scrutiny, it can then be argued the developer intentionally created a network that facilitated the commission of the crime which created the damages holding them personally liable for them.

We are all working for a more balanced, decentralized world however we cannot ignore that we don't live in it just yet.  While some developers may not feel they are exposed to such a liability, I wasn't about to take that risk in 2014 when nobody knew how regulatory compliance was going to develop.

It built up tremendous ill will in the community when I abandoned that network, but I'd rather suffer trolls than court judgements.

I hope that clears things up.

Spoken like a true sociopath. Why don't you just disappear and stop scamming naive kids for a living? That's really all we all want.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: bryceweiner on January 16, 2017, 04:29:09 AM
Since this is the first Google result when you search my name, I feel compelled to respond for the first time since these rumors surfaced.

First, Tao is doing exactly what I said it would do.

Second, not a single allegation set forth in this thread has ever been proved true.  I am not "Razortech," nor have I ever been.  Nor was Razor a "scam" of any kind, though the coin emission was very aggressive.

I abandoned Razor on the advice of my attorney.  It is also for this reason that Blocktech distanced itself from the network, as well.

The network faced several legal issues arising from liability that could not be avoided.  Other developers who have launched networks promising such anonymity face the same burden of legal liability.  The first time someone commits a crime using one of these networks the developer of the network may become liable to a civil claim for damages as it can be argued the act may have been impossible to commit without the existence of the network.  Given the design purpose of such networks is to obscure financial transactions from various forms of scrutiny, it can then be argued the developer intentionally created a network that facilitated the commission of the crime which created the damages holding them personally liable for them.

We are all working for a more balanced, decentralized world however we cannot ignore that we don't live in it just yet.  While some developers may not feel they are exposed to such a liability, I wasn't about to take that risk in 2014 when nobody knew how regulatory compliance was going to develop.

It built up tremendous ill will in the community when I abandoned that network, but I'd rather suffer trolls than court judgements.

I hope that clears things up.

Spoken like a true sociopath. Why don't you just disappear and stop scamming naive kids for a living? That's really all we all want.

Honestly there are few people on this forum I would consider of sound mind enough to judge my mental state, but thank you for your contribution.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: yaooke on July 18, 2017, 08:03:13 AM
Bryce receives way too much hate then he deserves. It almost seems to have become a meme, or a scapegoat.
Many people lost money on RZR, but just the same many people made a lot of money on the project.
There have been many coins who've bitten the dust and the people behind these you'll never see or hear from again.
At least Bryce has the guts to have his public face behind what he does, against better knowledge.
From what I've gotten out of this thread, is that too many people don't think for themselves. They copy cat whatever the others are saying,
instead of really researching the person. You'll see that most accusations don't really hold up, or it's just people trying to
direct their personal anger towards others instead of criticizing themselves. 


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: bryceweiner on November 14, 2017, 09:57:57 PM
Quote
Bryce Weiner (who worked at BlockTech at the time) saw the opportunity to get involved and hype a coin that would be highly profitable for miners (that's what he does, he creates new coins, he mines and dumps them “I make money out of thin air”  http://pastebin.com/VGyVPHN4)  so he started “working” and “developing” RZR along with RazorTech.

This is a cute little fantasy, but not accurate to reality.

I did not "get involved with" Razor.  I coded it an launched it fairly.  It was mined heavily and when a large number of tokens hit the markets it dumped.  I did mine RZR, but I never dumped it.  I still have lots of it.  Whoever did dump it was the number 1 miner on the network, which if I recall correctly was RedTiger.

RazorTech was someone that wanted to be the community lead for the project and I agreed. 

This thread is a joke.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CoinClarity on May 13, 2018, 08:38:30 AM
A History of Weinercoins:

https://coinclarity.com/spotting-a-scamcoin-number-1/

This thread was highly educational. It will be very interesting to see how Tao plays out.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: nutildah on May 13, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
A History of Weinercoins:

https://coinclarity.com/spotting-a-scamcoin-number-1/

This thread was highly educational. It will be very interesting to see how Tao plays out.

:D :D :D

What happened to the other RazorCoin?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: CoinClarity on May 14, 2018, 03:13:29 AM
What happened to the other RazorCoin?

Its a work in progress....


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: josetusdaisy on May 15, 2018, 01:36:41 AM
anyone here been anal probed by a grey alien?


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: mimota166 on May 18, 2018, 02:01:07 PM
Given the design purpose of such networks is to obscure financial transactions from various forms of scrutiny, it can then be argued the developer intentionally created a network that facilitated the commission of the crime which created the damages holding them personally liable for them.


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: SpiryGolden on October 15, 2018, 05:16:45 PM
I think people should keep this topic alive. As people like Bryce Weiner are still thriving well on Twitter doing Pump & Dump schemes. His credibility must be known how he scammed not just on RZR but on ZET and other 4 coins .


Title: Re: The story of the Razor ("RZR") scam. Bryce Weiner and RazorTech
Post by: nutildah on October 17, 2018, 08:45:19 AM
I think people should keep this topic alive. As people like Bryce Weiner are still thriving well on Twitter doing Pump & Dump schemes. His credibility must be known how he scammed not just on RZR but on ZET and other 4 coins .

You're absolutely right. His latest project, Tao, really shit the bed in August and it appears to be going the same direction as all of his other projects.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tao/