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Title: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 10, 2014, 03:14:18 AM
Dean has now locked the original post for PRCdice.  This can serve as a new place to post if needed.

The original post can be found here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.0

Dean is a liar, not trust worthy, a shitty owner and a fucktard.  If you have Bitcoins on this site you are just asking to lose them.


Edit:

Appears the OP is back unlocked.


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread
Post by: suchmoon on November 10, 2014, 03:33:35 AM
I hate that meme but seems to summarize the old thread well... I didn't think Dean had the stones to actually lock it though. Good luck to him and his personal playground. I guess you BAC will be his main advertiser on bitcointalk :)

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5b/5b7e0fdd39178dc8d4148618607fc96fb8908a1ea62c04119630f50f349c4ce1.jpg



Title: Re: PRCDice new thread
Post by: icecube on November 10, 2014, 03:47:54 AM
...And it continues


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread
Post by: nothing2seeHere on November 10, 2014, 04:15:56 AM
Yet another dice site turn into a scam (via not paying bounties.....and likely eventually investors/players). SMH

I think this is just another reason why we need JD to come back


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread
Post by: williamho on November 10, 2014, 04:16:58 AM
can i try it?


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread
Post by: mnmShadyBTC on November 10, 2014, 04:26:59 AM
Why would he not want to pay dooglus? He is probably the most active member of the gambling community and the most watch member of the gambling community. If you screw him over then you will be shooting your site's reputation in the foot


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread
Post by: Dabs on November 10, 2014, 04:36:42 AM
I promised Dean I would not discuss in detail any new sites or competitors in his chat room (specifically mine). We had a nice conversation, but I never kept the log.

He seems to be a nice guy except maybe he just rubbed some people the wrong way, and ... that's a skill he's got to learn.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: MadZ on November 10, 2014, 09:12:42 AM
I think it is a foolish decision for PRCDice to remove its forum presence, since the forums are one of the best sources of traffic.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: pawel7777 on November 10, 2014, 09:43:43 AM
Bay, I knew you won't miss the opportunity and was waiting for this thread to pop up.  :)


Yet another dice site turn into a scam (via not paying bounties.....and likely eventually investors/players). SMH


What 'scam' are you talking about? The bounty issue is between Doog and Dean and the thing is few months old.
PRCDice is still the biggest and probably most trusted investment-dice site out there.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: Stunna on November 10, 2014, 09:51:10 AM
I've always wondered about this, PRC dice claims they opened in early 2013? I don't recall them being around back then.

Anyways, I think Dean made a massive mistake by running off and ignoring his problems rather than paying out money that was rightfully owed to Doog. If Dooglus found a major vulnerability and feels he is owed funds why would you not deliver on it? I don't know the full story but I honestly find it difficult to believe that Dooglus would leave Dean negative trust if this was a non-issue.

I think Bayareacoins is the only winner in all of this, noticed the sneaky referral link in OP. If you're going to use a referral link, you shouldn't be so deceptive about it :)


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: finnile on November 10, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
I've always wondered about this, PRC dice claims they opened in early 2013? I don't recall them being around back then.

Anyways, I think Dean made a massive mistake by running off and ignoring his problems rather than paying out money that was rightfully owed to Doog. If Dooglus found a major vulnerability and feels he is owed funds why would you not deliver on it?
They opened back in 2013, but only offered poker then, however even the poker action began early this year about 5 months back, when Dean started offering a 50 mbtc free promotion. They opened up Dice just after JD shutdown(5 months back), as there wasn't an investment dice site after it shutdown. Now there is only dice for now.  Its a bit misguiding to claim about opening early in 2013.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: galbros on November 10, 2014, 09:56:52 AM
I can't believe Dean would cut off his nose to spite his face like this.  

Surely he could have given dooglus at least some token payment.  I agree with Stunna, dooglus leaving negative trust is pretty bad.  Dean locking his thread and basically shunting everything on this forum to you is a big self inflicted wound as well.

It just doesn't make any sense at all.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: Stunna on November 10, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
I've always wondered about this, PRC dice claims they opened in early 2013? I don't recall them being around back then.

Anyways, I think Dean made a massive mistake by running off and ignoring his problems rather than paying out money that was rightfully owed to Doog. If Dooglus found a major vulnerability and feels he is owed funds why would you not deliver on it?
They opened back in 2013, but only offered poker then, however even the poker action began early this year about 5 months back, when Dean started offering a 50 mbtc free promotion. They opened up Dice just after JD shutdown(5 months back), as there wasn't an investment dice site after it shutdown. Now there is only dice for now.  Its a bit misguiding to claim about opening early in 2013.

Ah I see, pretty misleading. Last time I checked dice was not poker.

Should keep this in mind when I release primepoker  ;)


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: Seketsuna on November 10, 2014, 10:14:44 AM
I've always wondered about this, PRC dice claims they opened in early 2013? I don't recall them being around back then.

Anyways, I think Dean made a massive mistake by running off and ignoring his problems rather than paying out money that was rightfully owed to Doog. If Dooglus found a major vulnerability and feels he is owed funds why would you not deliver on it?
They opened back in 2013, but only offered poker then, however even the poker action began early this year about 5 months back, when Dean started offering a 50 mbtc free promotion. They opened up Dice just after JD shutdown(5 months back), as there wasn't an investment dice site after it shutdown. Now there is only dice for now.  Its a bit misguiding to claim about opening early in 2013.

Ah I see, pretty misleading. Last time I checked dice was not poker.

Should keep this in mind when I release primepoker  ;)

please put up an investment feature...  :-X


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: BJay87 on November 10, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
So after all that happened? Will PRCdice be closing soon?


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: pawel7777 on November 10, 2014, 12:42:56 PM
So after all that happened? Will PRCdice be closing soon?

Why would PRCDice be closing?


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: wayshegoes on November 10, 2014, 01:51:39 PM
Just to let everyone know, the official url for the website is PRCDice.eu. The owner "Dean Nolan" can't guarantee the authenticity of the .com domain.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: uvwvj on November 10, 2014, 01:52:24 PM
Just to let everyone know, the official url for the website is PRCDice.eu. The owner "Dean Nolan" can't guarantee the authenticity of the .com domain.

Dean cant guarantee his head is out of his ass either.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: finnile on November 10, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
Dean has now locked the original post for PRCdice (http://www.prcdice.com).  This can serve as a new place to post if needed.

The original post can be found here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.0

I do not own or work for PRCDice in any way shape or form... Just supplying the thread for people to continue using, talking or whatever else they might do about the site.

Sorry for you Bay
Dean Nolan: bay created a new one just so people could troll more so im removing his affiliate
but this is just how Dean rolls.


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: CrackedLogic on November 10, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
Did dean lock it as of running away from dooglus?


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 10, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
Did dean lock it as of running away from dooglus?

Ya the guy is a faggot.



Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: suchmoon on November 10, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
Dean has now locked the original post for PRCdice (http://www.prcdice.com).  This can serve as a new place to post if needed.

The original post can be found here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.0

I do not own or work for PRCDice in any way shape or form... Just supplying the thread for people to continue using, talking or whatever else they might do about the site.

Sorry for you Bay
Dean Nolan: bay created a new one just so people could troll more so im removing his affiliate
but this is just how Dean rolls.

Wow. Bringing out the big guns. So apparently he's trying to make BAC to redirect PRCDice.com to PD or something. Brilliant marketing strategy.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: suchmoon on November 10, 2014, 03:17:34 PM
Wow. Bringing out the big guns. So apparently he's trying to make BAC to redirect PRCDice.com to PD or something. Brilliant marketing strategy.

Nah, I'm pretty sure this is far more damaging:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/f0lmlb6l9q465kn/zt7_3jcn.png


Yep, that works too. And some neg trust to go with it.


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: unamis76 on November 10, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
I guess the owners problems are irrelevant if he keeps running a good website... Haven't got any problems with them so far.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: dooglus on November 10, 2014, 08:40:27 PM
Dean Nolan: bay created a new one just so people could troll more so im removing his affiliate

This is exactly the kind of thing that bothers me about Dean.

He promises something (in this case "refer people to my site and I'll give you a cut of the revenue you refer")
Then he goes back on his word ("I'm not going to pay you because you pissed me off in some unrelated way").

How is "creating a thread so people can continue to discuss PRCdice (aka "troll", in Dean's mind) in any way related to the affiliate deal Bay had with Dean? It's totally unprofessional to break the affiliate deal after Bay invested so much time and effort referring people just because Bay made a new forum thread!

It doesn't mean his site is a scam, and I never said it was.

It does mean he can't be trusted to keep his word. And that's all my trust rating is meant to say.

If I was BayAreaCoins I would leave negative trust feedback over this, if it's an actual quote from the PRCdice chat from Dean (I didn't see it there - I only saw finnile's post here).

Edit: I notice on the old locked thread people were concerned that the "BTC risked" figure was misleading. I split my feedback into two separate feedbacks - a neutral one with the large amount I deposited, and a negative one with "0" as the amount risked. I don't know how much the bug bounty was, because I never received it, so I'm not sure how much I lost out on and don't really care. It's much more about the breach of trust than the number of coins involved.

Edit2: one of my cult members (joke, geddit?) sent me this screenshot, so it looks like finn's quote is accurate:

https://i.imgur.com/LZgJFwF.png


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: dooglus on November 10, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
I also see Dean spreading more lies:

https://i.imgur.com/T4EzNdH.png

* At first I missed the bug, because I misinterpretted what Dean meant when he said the player was "betting low". I thought he meant he was clicking the "lo" button, but he meant low stakes. Very soon after I found the bug, while Dean was happy to re-enable betting on the site. He had no clue what was going on.

* I never saw the code of the site, and still haven't. All I saw was what was available to everyone. To say I "audited the code" is a stretch.

* When I point out bugs with other sites that have bug bounties, they pay me. I don't have to grovel to them, or argue with them. They just pay me. That's the deal with bug bounties. Find a serious bug, get a bounty.

* I have no warships. There are a few canoes with peashooters mounted on them in my moat, but that hardly counts.

I can post screenshots of the private message conversation that passed between us if that would be useful.


Title: Re: PRCDice.com new thread. Opened early 2013 and current largest invest dice site!
Post by: CryForMeSky on November 10, 2014, 09:14:09 PM
I've always wondered about this, PRC dice claims they opened in early 2013? I don't recall them being around back then.

Anyways, I think Dean made a massive mistake by running off and ignoring his problems rather than paying out money that was rightfully owed to Doog. If Dooglus found a major vulnerability and feels he is owed funds why would you not deliver on it? I don't know the full story but I honestly find it difficult to believe that Dooglus would leave Dean negative trust if this was a non-issue.

I think Bayareacoins is the only winner in all of this, noticed the sneaky referral link in OP. If you're going to use a referral link, you shouldn't be so deceptive about it :)

I'm going to go off of memory and old promo emails:

It opened early April 2013.  In at least late 2013 (maybe earlier, that's when I started checking it out) they offered poker and BJ and you could invest in the house BR for BJ.  In late Feb (after I offhandedly suggested it) he coded a dice plug in and then built that up.  So the site has been around for a year and a half, dice (with investment) has been around for 8.5 months.


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: coolobama on November 14, 2014, 12:06:07 PM
The site has really less users now. only 15 , and people are divesting.


Title: Re: PRCDice new thread. Please withdraw all coins and do not play here.
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 14, 2014, 12:21:21 PM
Going to lock this thread up since the OP is back open.  

If he locks it again... this one will open back up.


The site has really less users now. only 15 , and people are divesting.

That's what happens when you run a joint based off people investing in your place and you are a cunt to people.  

Suprise suprise!

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-48266-its-already-been-broughten-gif-hyKF.gif