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Title: Only 900 Nodes... NVM over 7000.
Post by: spazzdla on November 10, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
We keep losing nodes..... :S.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: maurya78 on November 10, 2014, 03:42:16 PM
When I checked in periodically during the week we were in the 500s and 600s
900 is actually not too bad


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: spazzdla on November 10, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

Blockchain.info does not connect to every node on the network.

Oh, okay , thanks.

+6000, well that's more like it!!


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on November 10, 2014, 04:25:11 PM
and with future improvements it will be easier to sync and run a full node  :)


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: axel2078 on November 10, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
and with future improvements it will be easier to sync and run a full node  :)

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is meant by running a "full node"?  How is this different than running the bitcoin-qt client?  I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything, I just don't know and want to understand it better.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on November 10, 2014, 05:00:05 PM
and with future improvements it will be easier to sync and run a full node  :)

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is meant by running a "full node"?  How is this different than running the bitcoin-qt client?  I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything, I just don't know and want to understand it better.
A full node is in fact the Bitcoin-Qt client. It relays and verifies blocks and is also capable of serving work if you are a miner.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: axel2078 on November 10, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
and with future improvements it will be easier to sync and run a full node  :)

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is meant by running a "full node"?  How is this different than running the bitcoin-qt client?  I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything, I just don't know and want to understand it better.
A full node is in fact the Bitcoin-Qt client. It relays and verifies blocks and is also capable of serving work if you are a miner.

Oh, ok.  I thought I remember someone on here saying before that you weren't actually running a full node on your bitcoin-qt client unless you opened up additional ports on your firewall. Is that true?  I'm not sure why opening up more ports would make you a full node unless it's because you can process more traffic or something.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 10, 2014, 05:05:06 PM
Oh, ok.  I thought I remember someone on here saying before that you weren't actually running a full node on your bitcoin-qt client unless you opened up additional ports on your firewall. Is that true?  I'm not sure why opening up more ports would make you a full node unless it's because you can process more traffic or something.

Yes, You need port 8333 open ... you can test here:

http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: axel2078 on November 10, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Oh, ok.  I thought I remember someone on here saying before that you weren't actually running a full node on your bitcoin-qt client unless you opened up additional ports on your firewall. Is that true?  I'm not sure why opening up more ports would make you a full node unless it's because you can process more traffic or something.

Yes, You need port 8333 open ... you can test here:

http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/

So once that port is opened (port forwarded), what does it actually do for the bitcoin-qt client that's different from before?


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: server on November 10, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Oh, ok.  I thought I remember someone on here saying before that you weren't actually running a full node on your bitcoin-qt client unless you opened up additional ports on your firewall. Is that true?  I'm not sure why opening up more ports would make you a full node unless it's because you can process more traffic or something.

Yes, You need port 8333 open ... you can test here:

http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/

So once that port is opened (port forwarded), what does it actually do for the bitcoin-qt client that's different from before?

Tcp port 8333 enables communication between the bitcoin clients.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 10, 2014, 05:26:39 PM

So once that port is opened (port forwarded), what does it actually do for the bitcoin-qt client that's different from before?

Necessary to act as a full node, otherwise you will be limited to 8 incoming connections with no outgoing connections.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: Mak J on November 10, 2014, 05:42:06 PM
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

Blockchain.info does not connect to every node on the network.

Oh, okay , thanks.

+6000, well that's more like it!!
First post full of panic :P Reality isn't as bad as you think ;)


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: OliverCR on November 10, 2014, 05:44:41 PM
When I checked in periodically during the week we were in the 500s and 600s
900 is actually not too bad
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

Blockchain.info does not connect to every node on the network.

Oh, okay , thanks.

+6000, well that's more like it!!
7000 nodes is a big or a small amount? A few month ago was more or less full nodes? :P


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 10, 2014, 05:52:05 PM

7000 nodes is a big or a small amount? A few month ago was more or less full nodes? :P

Slow and steady decline -
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/04/28/bitnodes-io-indicates-60-day-decline-bitcoin-nodes/

Avg 9500 early this year and 7800 avg 6 months ago.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: axel2078 on November 10, 2014, 05:53:19 PM

So once that port is opened (port forwarded), what does it actually do for the bitcoin-qt client that's different from before?

Necessary to act as a full node, otherwise you will be limited to 8 incoming connections with no outgoing connections.

Ah, ok.  I just opened up port 8333 and noticed that my number of active connections went from 8 to 10.  I'm seeing the below entries in my debug log.  Is this normal?  (I removed my IP address in the log below)

2014-11-10 17:52:33 ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
2014-11-10 17:52:33 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : inputs already spent
2014-11-10 17:52:33 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : inputs already spent
2014-11-10 17:52:57 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : inputs already spent
2014-11-10 17:52:58 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : inputs already spent
2014-11-10 17:53:00 receive version message: /bitcoinseeder:0.01/: version 60000, blocks=230000, us=x.x.x.x:8333, them=0.0.0.0:0, peer=178.62.20.190:43641
2014-11-10 17:53:00 Added time data, samples 17, offset +0 (+0 minutes)
2014-11-10 17:53:00 nTimeOffset = -1  (+0 minutes)
2014-11-10 17:53:03 receive version message: /bitcoinseeder:0.01/: version 60000, blocks=230000, us=x.x.x.x:8333, them=0.0.0.0:0, peer=199.127.225.232:45435
2014-11-10 17:53:03 Added time data, samples 18, offset +0 (+0 minutes)
2014-11-10 17:53:05 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : nonstandard transaction: dust
2014-11-10 17:53:05 socket recv error Connection reset by peer (54)
2014-11-10 17:53:08 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : nonstandard transaction: dust


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 10, 2014, 05:55:28 PM

Ah, ok.  I just opened up port 8333 and noticed that my number of active connections went from 8 to 10.

Congrats, you are now allowing outbound traffic and not merely a leach upon other nodes.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: axel2078 on November 10, 2014, 06:04:24 PM

Ah, ok.  I just opened up port 8333 and noticed that my number of active connections went from 8 to 10.

Congrats, you are now allowing outbound traffic and not merely a leach upon other nodes.

I'm up to 15 connections now.  Am I right to assume that you are not actually verifying transactions on the Bitcoin network unless you are also allowing outbound traffic?


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: inBitweTrust on November 10, 2014, 06:13:12 PM


I'm up to 15 connections now.  Am I right to assume that you are not actually verifying transactions on the Bitcoin network unless you are also allowing outbound traffic?

Yes.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: cryptocoinfan on November 10, 2014, 06:16:25 PM
what is loosing nodes,bitcoin?


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: OliverCR on November 10, 2014, 06:16:33 PM

7000 nodes is a big or a small amount? A few month ago was more or less full nodes? :P

Slow and steady decline -
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/04/28/bitnodes-io-indicates-60-day-decline-bitcoin-nodes/

Avg 9500 early this year and 7800 avg 6 months ago.
Maybe BTC protocol should introduce something similar to PoS to encourage people to have full node opened? :P


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: cr1776 on November 10, 2014, 06:25:52 PM

7000 nodes is a big or a small amount? A few month ago was more or less full nodes? :P

Slow and steady decline -
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/04/28/bitnodes-io-indicates-60-day-decline-bitcoin-nodes/

Avg 9500 early this year and 7800 avg 6 months ago.
Maybe BTC protocol should introduce something similar to PoS to encourage people to have full node opened? :P

Go ahead, let us know when the client fork is ready, fork the blockchain and we'll see who is ready to switch to PoS.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: Melbustus on November 10, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

Blockchain.info does not connect to every node on the network.

We keep losing nodes..... :S.


Update thread title, please.


Title: Re: Only 900 Nodes..
Post by: bluemountain on November 11, 2014, 03:34:35 AM

7000 nodes is a big or a small amount? A few month ago was more or less full nodes? :P

Slow and steady decline -
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/04/28/bitnodes-io-indicates-60-day-decline-bitcoin-nodes/

Avg 9500 early this year and 7800 avg 6 months ago.
Maybe BTC protocol should introduce something similar to PoS to encourage people to have full node opened? :P
Probably not a good idea. PoS coins are too easy to attack