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Title: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: benjamindees on November 11, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_%28Huxley_novel%29

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If I were now to rewrite the book, I would offer the Savage a third alternative. Between the Utopian and primitive horns of his dilemma would lie the possibility of sanity... In this community economics would be decentralist and Henry-Georgian, politics Kropotkinesque co-operative. Science and technology would be used as though, like the Sabbath, they had been made for man, not (as at present and still more so in the Brave New World) as though man were to be adapted and enslaved to them. Religion would be the conscious and intelligent pursuit of man's Final End, the unitive knowledge of immanent Tao or Logos, the transcendent Godhead or Brahman. And the prevailing philosophy of life would be a kind of Higher Utilitarianism, in which the Greatest Happiness principle would be secondary to the Final End principle – the first question to be asked and answered in every contingency of life being: "How will this thought or action contribute to, or interfere with, the achievement, by me and the greatest possible number of other individuals, of man's Final End?"[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zihuatanejo_Project

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The Zihuatanejo Project was a psychedelic training center and intentional community created during the beginning of the counterculture of the 1960s by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert

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The idea for the community was influenced by Aldous Huxley's fictional novel, Island (1962)

Dr. Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlGNtE2WCc&t=11m12s)


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: BADecker on November 12, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
You need to remember that the bigger anything gets, the more chance it has to become irregular.

Time hasn't been a flat circle for a long "time" now.

:)


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: Bit-Gods on June 21, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_%28Huxley_novel%29

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If I were now to rewrite the book, I would offer the Savage a third alternative. Between the Utopian and primitive horns of his dilemma would lie the possibility of sanity... In this community economics would be decentralist and Henry-Georgian, politics Kropotkinesque co-operative. Science and technology would be used as though, like the Sabbath, they had been made for man, not (as at present and still more so in the Brave New World) as though man were to be adapted and enslaved to them. Religion would be the conscious and intelligent pursuit of man's Final End, the unitive knowledge of immanent Tao or Logos, the transcendent Godhead or Brahman. And the prevailing philosophy of life would be a kind of Higher Utilitarianism, in which the Greatest Happiness principle would be secondary to the Final End principle – the first question to be asked and answered in every contingency of life being: "How will this thought or action contribute to, or interfere with, the achievement, by me and the greatest possible number of other individuals, of man's Final End?"[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zihuatanejo_Project

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The Zihuatanejo Project was a psychedelic training center and intentional community created during the beginning of the counterculture of the 1960s by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert

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The idea for the community was influenced by Aldous Huxley's fictional novel, Island (1962)

Dr. Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlGNtE2WCc&t=11m12s)

Time is a flat circle and we are trapped in eternity, doomed to repeat our lives over and over again.Every murder victim, everyone who suffers from disease or poverty or injury is doomed to repeat the cycle of their existence. That is the Secret Fate of All Life. That is what Rust means by "time, death and futility."


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: Miracal on June 21, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_%28Huxley_novel%29

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If I were now to rewrite the book, I would offer the Savage a third alternative. Between the Utopian and primitive horns of his dilemma would lie the possibility of sanity... In this community economics would be decentralist and Henry-Georgian, politics Kropotkinesque co-operative. Science and technology would be used as though, like the Sabbath, they had been made for man, not (as at present and still more so in the Brave New World) as though man were to be adapted and enslaved to them. Religion would be the conscious and intelligent pursuit of man's Final End, the unitive knowledge of immanent Tao or Logos, the transcendent Godhead or Brahman. And the prevailing philosophy of life would be a kind of Higher Utilitarianism, in which the Greatest Happiness principle would be secondary to the Final End principle – the first question to be asked and answered in every contingency of life being: "How will this thought or action contribute to, or interfere with, the achievement, by me and the greatest possible number of other individuals, of man's Final End?"[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zihuatanejo_Project

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The Zihuatanejo Project was a psychedelic training center and intentional community created during the beginning of the counterculture of the 1960s by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert

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The idea for the community was influenced by Aldous Huxley's fictional novel, Island (1962)

Dr. Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlGNtE2WCc&t=11m12s)

Time is a flat circle and we are trapped in eternity, doomed to repeat our lives over and over again.Every murder victim, everyone who suffers from disease or poverty or injury is doomed to repeat the cycle of their existence. That is the Secret Fate of All Life. That is what Rust means by "time, death and futility."

AS a believer of God and karma, I firmly disagree. Apart from that, I believe in change. Change is inevitable and change is constant. I don't think so that time repeats itself on its own orbit. That's the beauty of time. Once this particular second is gone, it won't come back.


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: Beliathon on June 21, 2015, 01:32:55 PM
Time is a flat circle and we are trapped in eternity, doomed to repeat our lives over and over again.Every murder victim, everyone who suffers from disease or poverty or injury is doomed to repeat the cycle of their existence. That is the Secret Fate of All Life. That is what Rust means by "time, death and futility."
Someone has been watching a little bit too much True Detective. You're aware this is a fictional television show, correct? What religion are you trying to replace with this time nonsense?


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: aikunsatu on July 02, 2015, 05:40:58 PM
Time is the most priceless of them all.


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: BADecker on July 02, 2015, 08:39:30 PM
Time is a flat circle and we are trapped in eternity, doomed to repeat our lives over and over again.Every murder victim, everyone who suffers from disease or poverty or injury is doomed to repeat the cycle of their existence. That is the Secret Fate of All Life. That is what Rust means by "time, death and futility."
Someone has been watching a little bit too much True Detective. You're aware this is a fictional television show, correct? What religion are you trying to replace with this time nonsense?


Certainly not the atheism religion.

:)


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: GingerAle on July 02, 2015, 08:44:24 PM
Time doesn't exist. Its an illusion created by conscious beings. The only "force" that puts things in order in time's arrow is our memory of it having happened. Absent of a conscious entity ordering things in time, all things just are.

Think about time perception for a bit.


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: BADecker on July 02, 2015, 09:24:25 PM
Time doesn't exist. Its an illusion created by conscious beings. The only "force" that puts things in order in time's arrow is our memory of it having happened. Absent of a conscious entity ordering things in time, all things just are.

Think about time perception for a bit.


For all practical intents and purposes, time should be considered as above. However, there really is more to time than this, even though people seldom think about it correctly.

Point, line, plane, space, time... and there is a lot more. Think about it.

:)


Title: Re: Time is a Flat Circle
Post by: username18333 on July 03, 2015, 04:09:06 AM
Every murder victim, everyone who suffers from disease or poverty or injury is doomed to repeat the cycle of their existence.


This is the pattern of creation and how everything in the universe came to be.

“Causation” is an element of your existence’s phenomenology. For illustration, 𝑓(𝑛₁ + 𝟣) equals 𝟦 because 𝑛˛ “constitutes” 𝑓, not because 𝑓(𝑛₁) equals 𝟣.

In 1992, I went house-to-house and talked to people all ages (from young couples to grandmothers) as a volunteer for the Ross Perot 1992 POTUS campaign. I saw that people would listen to me, but they wouldn't be able to carry it forward in terms of complete understanding and action. I learned that people have other incentives that are driving their lives and they don't have the focus to become experts on politics, what is actually going on behind the curtain, and what to best do about it.


Quote from: Charles Flatt, Sheila Allen; Los Angeles Times; 1990
Democracy has been described as four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Unmoderated majority rule means that the mistakes, the ignorance and the prejudices of the majority will become law. Minorities will be devoured, and the resulting society will be one of enforced and fearful homogeneity.

Quote from: Dale Wilkerson, Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Nietzsche’s philosophy contemplates the meaning of values and their significance to human existence. Given that no absolute values exist, in Nietzsche’s worldview, the evolution of values on earth must be measured by some other means. How then shall they be understood? The existence of a value presupposes a value-positing perspective, and values are created by human beings (and perhaps other value-positing agents) as aids for survival and growth. Because values are important for the well being of the human animal, because belief in them is essential to our existence, we oftentimes prefer to forget that values are our own creations and to live through them as if they were absolute. For these reasons, social institutions enforcing adherence to inherited values are permitted to create self-serving economies of power, so long as individuals living through them are thereby made more secure and their possibilities for life enhanced. Nevertheless, from time to time the values we inherit are deemed no longer suitable and the continued enforcement of them no longer stands in the service of life. To maintain allegiance to such values, even when they no longer seem practicable, turns what once served the advantage to individuals to a disadvantage, and what was once the prudent deployment of values into a life denying abuse of power. When this happens the human being must reactivate its creative, value-positing capacities and construct new values.

Quote from: David Konstan, “Epicurus,” Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 2014
[Epicurus] regarded the unacknowledged fear of death and punishment as the primary cause of anxiety among human beings, and anxiety in turn as the source of extreme and irrational desires.