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Title: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on November 13, 2014, 05:09:30 PM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

400 usd is far too high a price


http://zoomhash.com/collections/asics/products/copy-of-plug-and-play-230-250mhs-5000w-scrypt-asic-package-domestic-usa-only-ships-from-los-angeles

i had some of the above   decent gear

the cost is 289 + 60 to ship to New Jersey from west coast.  you pay 350 usd use paypal to pay and get 23mh

it uses under 500 watts.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on November 13, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
But I don't live in USA. So I'd have to pay for importation, which is not cheap. In fact, it makes any bought overseas ASIC expensive.

Is mining worth actually? I would buy a scrypt miner (5.6 MH/s), but I just gave up when I saw Lottocoins costs 0.00000056 LTC (I was about to get one miner, until I saw it was showing in LTC, not BTC).


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: notlist3d on November 13, 2014, 05:24:27 PM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

400 usd is far too high a price


http://zoomhash.com/collections/asics/products/copy-of-plug-and-play-230-250mhs-5000w-scrypt-asic-package-domestic-usa-only-ships-from-los-angeles

i had some of the above   decent gear

the cost is 289 + 60 to ship to New Jersey from west coast.  you pay 350 usd use paypal to pay and get 23mh

it uses under 500 watts.

Way to high for my top of line A2 30 MHz mini (uses 330 watts).  I sold last week for around 475 including shipping.  You can get the 1k for 30 MHz even cheaper.  But I would warn at this point 30 MHz using 1000 watts is getting closer and closer to end of it's mining life unless you don't pay electricity.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: jawitech on November 15, 2014, 08:36:13 AM
But I don't live in USA. So I'd have to pay for importation, which is not cheap. In fact, it makes any bought overseas ASIC expensive.

Is mining worth actually? I would buy a scrypt miner (5.6 MH/s), but I just gave up when I saw Lottocoins costs 0.00000056 LTC (I was about to get one miner, until I saw it was showing in LTC, not BTC).

Are you from Europe? If yes, check eBay. Got some Zeus Blizzard 3.6 MH/s for around 110 EUR each. Using a multipool with merge mining (Doge, uLTC, Sys, PTC) and some good coins will bring you approx. get 0.0002-0.0003 BTC/MH/Day. ROI within 100 days might be possible (in case BTC price will remain at around $400).

Interesting pools:

https://www.ipominer.com/
http://hash-to-coins.com/ (http://hash-to-coins.com/index.php?page=register&rid=7300)
https://coinking.io/
https://give-me-coins.com
https://www.litecoinpool.org/ (LTC pool paying PPS)
http://www.coinmine.pw


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: ObscureBean on November 15, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
I would say it's not worth it, 5.6 MH/s Scrypt hash power is just too little nowadays. You be better off using the $400 to buy some Hashlets (virtual miners) from GAW. If you're lucky you could get maybe 9 or 10 Prime Hashlets from the Hashmarket with your money. Each one of these is 1MH/s of scrypt and they are lifetime contracts  :)


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on November 27, 2014, 09:27:37 PM
I would say it's not worth it, 5.6 MH/s Scrypt hash power is just too little nowadays. You be better off using the $400 to buy some Hashlets (virtual miners) from GAW. If you're lucky you could get maybe 9 or 10 Prime Hashlets from the Hashmarket with your money. Each one of these is 1MH/s of scrypt and they are lifetime contracts  :)

But is not too risky to invest our money in a company which we don't even know where it is located? I mean, Zen is not the same Company as Gaw miners, right? And hey american friends, have you ever seen personally Gaw Miners ultimately? Because I noticed in their website that even their certification does not show from where the company is anymore (before, it showed it is/was from Connecticut). It's now shown "this site does not provide identity information". The same as in ZenPortal...


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: Hippie Tech on November 27, 2014, 11:40:20 PM
Each one of these is 1MH/s of scrypt and they are lifetime contracts  :)

How many said something similar about GOX ? lol..

We're supposed to free ourselves from 3rd party intervention. NOT the other way around. ;)


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: adaseb on December 05, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Its not worth it. You will make $0.50 a day if you have free power. Even at $400 you would never ROI.

Stay away


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: OrientA on December 05, 2014, 04:15:03 PM
It is not worth it.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: FreeJack2k2 on December 05, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
Right now, at retail prices for hardware, mining isn't really very worthwhile. You would never see that hardware earn $400 on almost ANY coin, to pay for itself. Most hobbyists do it for fun, or they have a situation where they get free power and don't have to worry about expenses, beyond the cost of the hardware. But for everyone else, it has grown increasingly unprofitable. Hardware manufacturers, in my opinion, are gouging retail miners with their prices. So are most cloud mining services. Unless the coin price switches into a STRONG bull run and explodes upward (unlikely right now) my mining is more or less on hold, until prices of both hardware and coin come into a more copacetic relationship.

I'm taking the money I would have spent on hardware and putting it in coin to sit on, in the meantime.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on December 06, 2014, 02:09:19 AM
Right now, at retail prices for hardware, mining isn't really very worthwhile. You would never see that hardware earn $400 on almost ANY coin, to pay for itself. Most hobbyists do it for fun, or they have a situation where they get free power and don't have to worry about expenses, beyond the cost of the hardware. But for everyone else, it has grown increasingly unprofitable. Hardware manufacturers, in my opinion, are gouging retail miners with their prices. So are most cloud mining services. Unless the coin price switches into a STRONG bull run and explodes upward (unlikely right now) my mining is more or less on hold, until prices of both hardware and coin come into a more copacetic relationship.

I'm taking the money I would have spent on hardware and putting it in coin to sit on, in the meantime.

That's what I thought. So I think I'm going to simply hold Bitcoins while the prices are low and sell them when they are high. It's a good step to get a lot of money, right?


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: XFire on December 06, 2014, 07:09:43 AM
Its not worth it. You will make $0.50 a day if you have free power. Even at $400 you would never ROI.

Stay away

I agree with this. It really isn't profitable to mine coins in the current market condition.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: Jackson86 on December 06, 2014, 11:51:29 AM
you'd better not buy any hash now days

it's Profit is small and even at a loss



Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: oureptsC on December 06, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
$400 is definitely too much. Look for another hardware or virtual mining/contract. Or spend your money for something else.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: XFire on December 06, 2014, 09:11:51 PM
Hashlets may be an option but I do think there are much better was to spend your $.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: FreeJack2k2 on December 07, 2014, 12:48:46 AM
Hashlets may be an option but I do think there are much better was to spend your $.

Like throwing your money down a rat hole.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: AJinNYC on December 07, 2014, 01:14:01 AM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

If you're going to spend that much wait for the AntMiner L1... $600 for 120MH/s. That's $5 per MH/S not $75 per MH/s.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: bitcoinmining on December 07, 2014, 01:14:17 AM
The price is very high and mining is not so profitable at this moment. It's better to buy BTC with it ;)


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: Amph on December 07, 2014, 07:31:48 AM
The price is very high and mining is not so profitable at this moment. It's better to buy BTC with it ;)

mining is better than buying directly, because can makes you more btc, buying and holding cannot, this is not the case of course...


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: RD965 on December 07, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

400 usd is far too high a price


http://zoomhash.com/collections/asics/products/copy-of-plug-and-play-230-250mhs-5000w-scrypt-asic-package-domestic-usa-only-ships-from-los-angeles

i had some of the above   decent gear

the cost is 289 + 60 to ship to New Jersey from west coast.  you pay 350 usd use paypal to pay and get 23mh

it uses under 500 watts.


I have two of those for sale if youre interested, Im from Spain so if youre in Europe we can work something out! Pm and Ill give you more info


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: XFire on December 07, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
Is there a certain coin you want to mine? If so consider renting has or buy it if it on an exchange.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on December 08, 2014, 02:53:16 AM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

If you're going to spend that much wait for the AntMiner L1... $600 for 120MH/s. That's $5 per MH/S not $75 per MH/s.

Hey, AjinNYC! Don't expect to see Antminer L1 available again! I have emailed them ~1 month ago and they noticed me they won't NEVER sell that miner again. I'm almost sure they are just mining for themselves and don't want anyone to compete with themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/lyhTjKj.png?1


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: RD965 on December 08, 2014, 10:17:17 AM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

If you're going to spend that much wait for the AntMiner L1... $600 for 120MH/s. That's $5 per MH/S not $75 per MH/s.

Hey, AjinNYC! Don't expect to see Antminer L1 available again! I have emailed them ~1 month ago and they noticed me they won't NEVER sell that miner again. I'm almost sure they are just mining for themselves and don't want anyone to compete with themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/lyhTjKj.png?1


So what there might be a shop that sells it thats not the end of the world! Also scrypt asics performance are a lot better than SHA


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: AJinNYC on December 08, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

If you're going to spend that much wait for the AntMiner L1... $600 for 120MH/s. That's $5 per MH/S not $75 per MH/s.

Hey, AjinNYC! Don't expect to see Antminer L1 available again! I have emailed them ~1 month ago and they noticed me they won't NEVER sell that miner again. I'm almost sure they are just mining for themselves and don't want anyone to compete with themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/lyhTjKj.png?1


Well that sucks, but the Hashra Astro seems like a better speed to cost ratio anyway (although the electricity usage is higher on the Hashra).


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: Tstar on December 08, 2014, 10:59:16 AM
first use a calculator to calculate in how much time it will return your investment and then profit
if you find that it will give you a good ROI then you should buy them


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: toptek on December 08, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
no not worth it ..  trust them they are right  i just sold one on Ebay for 105$ .


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: adaseb on December 08, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
Yes they are not worth it at all.

You can buy one, use it for a few months and then sell it asap.

Problem with eBay is many buyers will send it back after 45 days for a full refund when they realise the low ROI


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on December 08, 2014, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: AjinNYC
Well that sucks, but the Hashra Astro seems like a better speed to cost ratio anyway (although the electricity usage is higher on the Hashra).

I forgot Hashra Astro! I found it useful to make people who are waiting to buy L1 to don't waste time (and lose money) for Bitmain to bring back the Antminer L1.

I'm afraid to never ROI with Astro, since Coinwarz says it takes ~200 freaking days to break even (I'm adding import duties, which is damn too expensive where I live).


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: rammy2k2 on December 08, 2014, 09:40:25 PM
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's worth paying ~$400 for a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner actually. I don't know about mining in solo mode, so I have no clue if it's worth. I noticed that, according to Coinwarz, RonPaulcoin takes only "0.16" days to generate one block in mining solo... What does that mean?

While mining in a pool with any scrypt miner, regardless of the coin mined, looks like isn't worth at all.

400$ ? that miner worth like 30$ ... lol ..


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on December 08, 2014, 10:39:19 PM


400$ ? that miner worth like 30$ ... lol ..


Where did you find for only 30$? I also need to literally double the final price when looking for a miner to buy because of import duties.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: toptek on December 09, 2014, 12:55:02 AM
Yes they are not worth it at all.

You can buy one, use it for a few months and then sell it asap.

Problem with eBay is many buyers will send it back after 45 days for a full refund when they realise the low ROI

I'm not  to worried i had it set for 30 days in the US and this guy knew it all most had no value. I don't sell to anyone out side the US to be safe. the one i did sell was a H x3 i asked the guy if  he got it even thu ups showed he did . he gave no feed back at all it has 10 days left in returns, I'm sweating that one.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: toptek on December 09, 2014, 12:57:05 AM


400$ ? that miner worth like 30$ ... lol ..


Where did you find for only 30$? I also need to literally double the final price when looking for a miner to buy because of import duties.


he may mean the 5 chip one which doesn't even come close to 5.6 MH ,that's about the going price or less atm for one of those.


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: RD965 on December 09, 2014, 08:10:32 AM


400$ ? that miner worth like 30$ ... lol ..


Where did you find for only 30$? I also need to literally double the final price when looking for a miner to buy because of import duties.


he may mean the 5 chip one which doesn't even come close to 5.6 MH ,that's about the going price or less atm for one of those.

Exactly, then the 5.6mh gridseed sells on ebay for about 100€, quite decent!


Title: Re: Is it worth to buy a 5.6 MH/s Scrypt miner?
Post by: acaciosc on December 09, 2014, 12:45:47 PM


400$ ? that miner worth like 30$ ... lol ..


Where did you find for only 30$? I also need to literally double the final price when looking for a miner to buy because of import duties.


he may mean the 5 chip one which doesn't even come close to 5.6 MH ,that's about the going price or less atm for one of those.

Oh, so in this case I think he is right (though he didn't take into consideration the import fees).