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Title: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: happyland on May 17, 2011, 03:48:10 AM
Hi all,
I'm new to the forums, but I'm a seasoned bitcoin user - started mining over a year ago and kind of forgot about bitcoins until now.
One thing I've gotten into recently has been selling Magic: The Gathering cards, primarily on Amazon and eBay.  It seems that bitcoin is far more mature than it was a year ago, and I'd like to start accepting bitcoin orders on a trial basis - provided there's interest from the community (I know there are other MtG nerds out there!).  I currently have a ton of unopened booster boxes and loose packs spanning Revised - Scars of Mirrodin.  I also have thousands of rare and uncommon singles, as well as bulk lots.  Post here to let me know what kinds of things you're interested in, and perhaps I'll put up some ordering logistics and prices.  ;D


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on May 17, 2011, 03:58:39 AM
I'm interested in packs, what kind of prices would I be looking at?


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: happyland on May 17, 2011, 04:08:28 AM
I'm interested in packs, what kind of prices would I be looking at?
Prices depend on the set - something like Scars of Mirrodin might be 0.5 BTC while Revised would be closer to 3.0 BTC.
Shipping is based on weight, but most likely 0.25 BTC for few packs or 0.75 BTC for a Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Box.
These very rough estimates are based on the 7-day moving average from Mt. Gox.


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: ataranlen on May 17, 2011, 05:28:58 AM
I was considering off loading my whole collection to someone for some bitcoins :p


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: happyland on May 17, 2011, 06:16:03 AM
I was considering off loading my whole collection to someone for some bitcoins :p
PM me with details on your lot and we'll talk.


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Fiyasko on May 17, 2011, 07:01:38 AM
http://magiccards.info/mbs/en/49.html
http://magiccards.info/som/en/79.html
http://magiccards.info/nph/en/119.html
http://magiccards.info/som/en/126.html
http://magiccards.info/nph/en/123.html
http://magiccards.info/nph/en/82.html

How much?

And/Or can you sell New Phyrexia boosters?


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: happyland on May 17, 2011, 07:10:35 AM
http://magiccards.info/mbs/en/49.html
http://magiccards.info/som/en/79.html
http://magiccards.info/nph/en/119.html
http://magiccards.info/som/en/126.html
http://magiccards.info/nph/en/123.html
http://magiccards.info/nph/en/82.html

How much?

And/Or can you sell New Phyrexia boosters?
I don't have any MBS or NPH right now - could obtain some through a distributor if there's demand.
As for the SoM singles:
Skithiryx - 1.50 BTC
Putrefax - 0.10 BTC
+ shipping of course.


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Fiyasko on May 17, 2011, 07:18:43 AM
Ooooookay, One skithiryx and four Putrefex How much total? i live in B.C Canada, i cant see any packaging required for the cards, so i dont really see a shipping cost aside from the price of a stamp...., you could just put the cards ina envelope and send 'em off.


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: happyland on May 17, 2011, 07:25:21 AM
Ooooookay, One skithiryx and four Putrefex How much total? i live in B.C Canada, i cant see any packaging required for the cards, so i dont really see a shipping cost aside from the price of a stamp...., you could just put the cards ina envelope and send 'em off.
I usually ship in a bubble mailer with delivery confirmation.  This is billed at a parcel rate (1 oz) instead of the letter rate.  Looks like the rate to Canada is similar to that for domestic mail - 0.25 BTC.

Total cost will be 2.15 BTC incl postage. PM me with your address to confirm.


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2011, 08:13:18 AM
Youd think mt gox would be able to sell them.  ;)


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: OtaconEmmerich on May 17, 2011, 02:08:14 PM
Don't tempt me! I QUIT THIS INSANE GAME OF MY YOUTH! THO SHALL NOT TEMPT ME!


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Kwizzlehazzizle on May 17, 2011, 03:06:05 PM
Hey, I might be interested in buying the following cards if anyone has:

4x Taiga
4x Goblin welder

I might also be interested any other classic cards say Urza's block or earlier.


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Gabriel Beal on May 17, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
What would be awesome is if you could play MTG online for bitcoin wagers.  Of course that would require a really good online rules-enforcing client.  Wizards of the Coast hasn't been able to do it.  Someone else maybe?


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Fiyasko on May 17, 2011, 03:33:58 PM
Don't tempt me! I QUIT THIS INSANE GAME OF MY YOUTH! THO SHALL NOT TEMPT ME!

Too bad
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/loadingreadyrun/2449-Its-Magic
Lol once i watched this i spent about $100's on cards.
Worth it, If your winning LOL


Title: Re: Any interest in Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on May 17, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
How much for a never played power 9 set? ;)


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Anonanon on May 17, 2011, 05:01:34 PM
I have a load I might be able to shift. No packs, but maybe the cards you want! If anyone's looking for a specific card(s), post it up, looks like there's plenty of potential sellers.

I detect a need for a Bitcoin/MTG trading site...


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Fiyasko on May 17, 2011, 05:20:54 PM
lawl looks like everyones trying to sell thier cards


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: 2nd_lawl on May 17, 2011, 05:51:28 PM
Willing to sell Real life cards(my collection is extensive), Magic The Gathering Online Event Tickets(which are basically pegged to the dollar), and Magic The Gathering Online Cards(much less extensive) for Bitcoins.
Msg me if interested.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: thegnome on May 17, 2011, 05:53:03 PM
lawl looks like everyones trying to sell thier cards

That's usually how it works with M:tg.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: happyland on May 17, 2011, 05:56:55 PM
lawl looks like everyones trying to sell thier cards

That's usually how it works with M:tg.
+1


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Binford 6100 on May 17, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
hi, what would be a nice starter for a complete noob? (father & son doing something together)
need at least 2 decks to be able to play against each other
no need fancy stuff like jin-gitaxias core augur (was browsing a card forum and liked this one)
will not play tournaments or anything. even old/outdated cards would be fine
how to ask someone to dump his old cards so that i won't get robbed? :)
i understood that old cards are basically worthless. just want to see that in practice


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: anisoptera on May 17, 2011, 09:31:17 PM
Add me to the lengthening queue of people who would like to sell collections.

I have a few complete sets on and offline...


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: 2nd_lawl on May 17, 2011, 09:38:51 PM
Old cards are not worthless, some are actually very expensive (in the hundreds or even thousands of dollars each).  What determines a cards worth a combination of rarity, condition, and playability in tournaments(basically how "good" the card is).  For casual play, 2 simple mono-colored decks would be enough to learn the basics and have some fun with a friend.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: FireFox31 on May 17, 2011, 09:47:50 PM
The best way to get started is with an official pre-built "Intro Pack" (aka "Starter Deck") from the manufacturer, Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro.  These decks are ready to play, fairly simple and demonstrate the mechanics of the game.  As you learn more about Magic, you'll realize that these decks have advanced tricks built into them, so they can take your game to a higher level.

There are many intro packs to choose from.  Each year, Wizards of the Coast releases new cards, grouped into a Core set and three related Expansion sets.  Wizards creates a few intro packs for each set they release.  The Core sets are broad and basic while the Expansion sets are more focused and complex.  Thus, as a new player, you'll do best to buy a Core set intro pack, which will cost roughly $10.

For that same $10, you could buy 1000 bulk cards from someone.  With this formidable pool of cards, you could build your own decks and freely change them around.  Deck building is a fun part of the game that you miss with intro packs, but it requires some knowledge of the game.  The downsides of bulk cards are: cards bought in bulk are often random from Magic's 18 year history, meaning your decks will be less coherent than a pre-built intro pack.  Also, many people selling bulk cards are dealers who may include tons of copies of the same card, foreign cards, or not provide a good variety of cards.

To clear up a misconception:  Old cards do have value.  Like Legos, all of the cards ever printed can be used together.  Some newer cards are more powerful than older cards, which happens often with creatures.  However, you can play variations of Magic in which old cards are highly useful.  A variation called "Block Constructed" allows you to only use cards from a single year (group of three related sets, as mentioned above).  This simplifies the game by eliminating many of the rules and mechanics introduced after that specific year, and leads to a fair game of Magic just as the designers intended it - people opening packs and playing with the cards they got.

I have a few intro packs / starter decks for sale.  I also have bulk cards which I can specially compile to allow good deck building opportunities (specific year, sets or colors of your choice; no foreign cards and few duplicates).  PM me if you're interested or would like more information.  I'm glad to help anyone get into the game.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: dayfall on May 17, 2011, 09:53:52 PM
Go to Boardgamegeek.com.  Hopefully there will be more bitcoin trades for boardgames there.  All I have traded so far is geekgold for bitcoins.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: ataranlen on May 17, 2011, 10:52:06 PM
Alright, So we just got the New Phyrexia sets in where I work.

Old cards are not worthless, some are actually very expensive (in the hundreds or even thousands of dollars each).  What determines a cards worth a combination of rarity, condition, and playability in tournaments(basically how "good" the card is).  For casual play, 2 simple mono-colored decks would be enough to learn the basics and have some fun with a friend.

Indeed, You can either spend money on old decks, or spend money every few months on new sets to have any chance at winning ;D


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Binford 6100 on May 18, 2011, 12:17:05 AM
The best way to get started ...

you sir, best get started by getting a wallet an paste me your tipping jar's address because your 2 cents i would like to reward. it was a good read and had me convinced for both, tipping you for this post and give mtg after all those years finally a try.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Binford 6100 on May 18, 2011, 12:26:25 AM
What determines a cards worth...
well, i had such a bulk random 1000 cards for 10 bucks type of sale in mind. what i found out is i need starter packs & be careful when buying bulk.

Quote
For casual play, 2 simple mono-colored decks would be enough to learn the basics and have some fun with a friend.
yep, mono-colored i had in mind. not having to worry which deck, what color. no deck building before a game. a dump of bulk cards i thought might be a good idea because of a good chance to find a complete deck inside. did not know that there are 18 + 18*3 different sets and/or expansion sets.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: 2nd_lawl on May 18, 2011, 12:35:39 AM
Yea The Game is nearing 20 years old, and they have been releasing about 600+ unique new cards a year for the bulk of that time. I would be happy to slap together a few mono-colored decks with land and send them anywhere in the US for .1 BTC + whatever shipping is.  Im a pretty serious MTG player so i have TONS of cards lying around, the .1 is more for the effort of putting the decks together :).  Anyway if you are interested let me know.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: FireFox31 on May 18, 2011, 01:03:04 AM
Thanks ptmhd.  Magic is a fun game and I'm glad to help people get into it.  My wallet address is now in my signature.

0.1 BTC for a deck is a good deal!  I have some old official pre-built decks for 1 BTC.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Binford 6100 on May 18, 2011, 02:14:16 AM
I would be happy to slap together a few mono-colored decks with land and send them anywhere in the US
if i'd pay the shipping, would you send them to europe? interested i am, i started actively shopping right now.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: ripper234 on May 18, 2011, 03:24:09 AM
This is great! I love to see more and more legitimate uses for Bitcoin.
Linked to this thread from Draw3Cards (http://draw3cards.com/) and its blog (http://draw3cards.wordpress.com).


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: Fiyasko on May 18, 2011, 04:00:49 AM
Someone's got New phyrexia cards?
Im buying them


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: ataranlen on May 18, 2011, 04:08:23 AM
Someone's got New phyrexia cards?
Im buying them

I responded to your PM.

I work directly with a distributer of Trading Cards, so I can get as many ordered as needed of Fat-Packs, 6 and 15 card boosters, and starter Decks. I only ship to the US, No PO Boxes. My rate is always Cost+shipping Directly into the current USD->BTC rate.

Also, my phone died, so no picture of my 4 full FatPack boxes of Mirrodin Expansion Cards yet >.< I'd be willing to sell these in bulk as well, or perhaps singles.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: FireFox31 on May 18, 2011, 04:10:06 AM
Quote
I detect a need for a Bitcoin/MTG trading site...
Done, kind of:

http://CoinGamer.com/ (http://CoinGamer.com/)
My Magic: The Gathering inventory, for sale exclusively accepting Bitcoin.

I've started a new thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8753.0) for it.  Thanks for your interest.


Title: Re: Magic: the Gathering?
Post by: billybitcoin on May 20, 2011, 06:35:08 PM
Hey im looking to sell a bunch of my old cards, havent played in years.