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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: Trance on November 15, 2014, 11:31:17 AM



Title: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Trance on November 15, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
Shame on you; Bank Of America, CitiBank, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase etc.


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bank-fine-foreign-exchange-jpmorgan-citibank-20141112-story.html


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on November 15, 2014, 11:58:03 AM
i guess their profit was $ 500 billion

$4.3 billion is a joke for these banks. its all a joke. a sad one.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Trance on November 15, 2014, 12:24:59 PM
i guess their profit was $ 500 billion

$4.3 billion is a joke for these banks. its all a joke. a sad one.

I know, it just shows it was orchestrated and they want to make the banks look like they actually were punished significantly.

I don't understand humanity sometimes, If everyone woke up overnight and realized this 'system' (call it what you want, NWO ETC) is rigged, and not for the benefit of the human species and its future!


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: H.W.Z on November 15, 2014, 02:45:43 PM
i guess their profit was $ 500 billion

$4.3 billion is a joke for these banks. its all a joke. a sad one.

I know, it just shows it was orchestrated and they want to make the banks look like they actually were punished significantly.

I don't understand humanity sometimes, If everyone woke up overnight and realized this 'system' (call it what you want, NWO ETC) is rigged, and not for the benefit of the human species and its future!
Because it is human nature, which is greedy and lazy. We always try to want more without any effort.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: worle1bm on November 15, 2014, 07:40:04 PM
i guess their profit was $ 500 billion

$4.3 billion is a joke for these banks. its all a joke. a sad one.
Got a source for that number?


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: BitcoinHeroes on November 15, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
They were not actually scamming, they were allegedly manipulating a $40 trillion per day currency market that is extremely liquid.   

Many economists that are not associated with these banks have questioned as to how realistic it is that these banks were able to actually move the markets due to the massive amounts of money that are traded on a daily basis.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Amun on November 15, 2014, 09:18:47 PM
The Banks are just scared of making a bit less money thats all. :-\


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on November 15, 2014, 09:59:12 PM
Shame on you; Bank Of America, CitiBank, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase etc.


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bank-fine-foreign-exchange-jpmorgan-citibank-20141112-story.html

Was just like banks caught scamming looks at the list
Yep those are the usual suspects
It's kind of irritating that people still use them but I guess they don't have too many choices since they are all colluding together in one form or another. Can see why they want to manipulate currency though evil group.



Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: xcapator on December 20, 2014, 10:58:46 PM
The Banks are just scared of making a bit less money thats all. :-\

The banks are getting towards negative percentage now, they charge you for the priviledge of keeping your money in their vault


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: RJX on December 23, 2014, 08:40:48 AM
The Banks are just scared of making a bit less money thats all. :-\

That's what every business is scared of and it's the quintessential flaw in capitalism.

After all it's only winner and losers...



Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: youngmike on December 23, 2014, 08:43:55 AM
This news is going to make people abandon banks and start using bitcoin and even care  :) Even grandmas  :) Revolution is coming  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: RonPaulBTC on December 23, 2014, 04:47:33 PM
All these chat logs are cringeworthy. They talk like 16 year olds on aim.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: AltcoinInvestor on December 23, 2014, 05:57:23 PM
I wasn't amused that much when I play with bots that on the altcoin exchanges ;D
It's quite ironic that these banks are accusing bitcoin is a scam ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: botany on December 24, 2014, 04:25:24 AM
Shame on you; Bank Of America, CitiBank, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase etc.


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bank-fine-foreign-exchange-jpmorgan-citibank-20141112-story.html

These banks would be happy to pay the fines.
As long as the litigation was going on and there was uncertainty about the outcome, they were scared.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: coinits on December 24, 2014, 04:35:44 AM
They were not actually scamming, they were allegedly manipulating a $40 trillion per day currency market that is extremely liquid.   

Many economists that are not associated with these banks have questioned as to how realistic it is that these banks were able to actually move the markets due to the massive amounts of money that are traded on a daily basis.

They were scamming, got caught, and the government wanted their cut. Government can say that they did their job, and the banks get to keep most of their illegal gains. It saves face and wraps up the criminal enterprise in a nice neat package. That is how modern day Global Corpo-Government Fascism works.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: johnyj on December 24, 2014, 05:57:58 AM
It's no use, they just print some money to pay the fine, and the average consumer get fined in the end


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: zetaray on December 24, 2014, 06:13:08 AM
Governments manipulate exchange rates, banks manipulate interbank rates. This has been going on for decades. Governments are levying fines now because their treasuries are empty. Soon they will collude again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Lethn on December 24, 2014, 09:43:59 AM
lol 'attempted' currency manipulation, they manipulate currencies on a daily basis and are sanctioned by governments to do it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Amph on December 24, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
banks are scammer since they born, not surprise here


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: edmonddantes on December 24, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
banks are the biggest thief's!


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: hashman on December 25, 2014, 06:18:20 AM
i guess their profit was $ 500 billion

$4.3 billion is a joke for these banks. its all a joke. a sad one.

I know, it just shows it was orchestrated and they want to make the banks look like they actually were punished significantly.

I don't understand humanity sometimes, If everyone woke up overnight and realized this 'system' (call it what you want, NWO ETC) is rigged, and not for the benefit of the human species and its future!


"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Henry Ford



Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: scarsbergholden on December 25, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
Governments manipulate exchange rates, banks manipulate interbank rates. This has been going on for decades. Governments are levying fines now because their treasuries are empty. Soon they will collude again.
I don't think banks are really able to manipulate interest rates, nor exchange rates (as they were accused of doing). I think this was a case of bankers having a big ego and were bragging about being able to do things they were not really capable of doing, and as a result essentially admitted guilt to a crime they were not committing


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: panju1 on December 28, 2014, 02:07:04 AM
I don't think banks are really able to manipulate interest rates

Banks can easily manipulate interest rates. Most of the borrowings of corporate borrowers are linked to LIBOR - London Inter Bank Offer Rate. LIBOR is also used extensively in the derivative markets.
And guess how LIBOR is calculated? It is calculated by taking a poll from various banks! Isn't that easy to manipulate?  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: funtotry on December 28, 2014, 08:53:02 PM
I don't think banks are really able to manipulate interest rates

Banks can easily manipulate interest rates. Most of the borrowings of corporate borrowers are linked to LIBOR - London Inter Bank Offer Rate. LIBOR is also used extensively in the derivative markets.
And guess how LIBOR is calculated? It is calculated by taking a poll from various banks! Isn't that easy to manipulate?  ;D

Your facts are accurate, however your conclusion is not. Each of the banks that are polled are polled because they have a large trading desk that relies on these interest rates to price bonds. In order for the rates to be manipulated then they would all (or almost all) need to work together, and they would all have inside knowledge where the price will be in the future. The problem with exploiting this is that they all tend to trade with eachother in large volumes, so if they all knew the price of bonds is going to increase then they would all buy, but no one would be willing to sell because they know the price is going to be higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: General_A on January 02, 2015, 12:54:42 AM
lol 'attempted' currency manipulation, they manipulate currencies on a daily basis and are sanctioned by governments to do it.
Fixed it.....
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lol 'attempted' currency manipulation, they manipulate currencies on a daily basis and are sanctioned rewarded by governments to do it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Silverspoon on January 02, 2015, 02:27:19 AM
Bit ironic how bitcoiners rage against banks stealing munyz while their buddies, the other bitcoin financiers, pound them without so much as a kiss, a bit of lube, or even bus fare home :(  (pirate@40, TradeFortress, Ukyo, Criptocyprus (Danny Brewster/Neo BEE) etc., etc., etc.) :-\


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: sandy47bt on January 02, 2015, 10:23:04 AM
Even they were caught scamming, they will continue until their financial system broke  :(
Who will caught  next ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: botany on January 03, 2015, 02:58:18 PM
Bit ironic how bitcoiners rage against banks stealing munyz while their buddies, the other bitcoin financiers, pound them without so much as a kiss, a bit of lube, or even bus fare home :(  (pirate@40, TradeFortress, Ukyo, Criptocyprus (Danny Brewster/Neo BEE) etc., etc., etc.) :-\

Have the banks paid the price?
You shouldn't be comparing pirate@40 with banks. If at all you need his equivalent in the fiat world, think of Madoff.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Silverspoon on January 03, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
Bit ironic how bitcoiners rage against banks stealing munyz while their buddies, the other bitcoin financiers, pound them without so much as a kiss, a bit of lube, or even bus fare home :(  (pirate@40, TradeFortress, Ukyo, Criptocyprus (Danny Brewster/Neo BEE) etc., etc., etc.) :-\

Have the banks paid the price?
You shouldn't be comparing pirate@40 with banks. If at all you need his equivalent in the fiat world, think of Madoff.

All the names listed above ran exchanges/"bank-like entities"/financial services.  But just for luls, what percentage of world's total fiat has Madoff absconded with?


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: General_A on January 03, 2015, 03:45:59 PM

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Henry Ford



No truer word said by any man.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/43/43cf632a366920c856905dadc3a9e853b58a6e72ad4b44fedb271d0cc9e34f30.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: caga on January 03, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
I am sure banks would be able to manipulate prices of bitcoins if they want to .
They might even be able to demotivate people from investing into bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: General_A on January 03, 2015, 04:47:22 PM
I am sure banks would be able to manipulate prices of bitcoins if they want to .
They might even be able to demotivate people from investing into bitcoin.
I wasn't aware people even questioned it  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: spiller on January 06, 2015, 05:52:59 PM
i guess their profit was $ 500 billion

$4.3 billion is a joke for these banks. its all a joke. a sad one.

they don't give a S!$% about 1 billion. to these guys 1 billion is like uppps... wow, couch change ??? just exchanging different credits from several people farms. and they are just havin' a ball. doing lines and driving new ferraris. nothing changed folks.  ;D

referee blew a whistle on this one, and took the ball away for a minute. the players are crying already. weee. wheeee. gonna be careful next time im cheatin u. when they say they are reviewing procedures, they are just too suprised they got called for. they will make sure its not happening again, and make sure the regulator stash is big enough so the whistle don't work.

anyway if you know about financial compliance business both sides get nicely greased. most of them drink at the same pub regulators and traders all the same. and forex traders will be playing the same game this time 2018, 2020 and so on. there is no change in the system.

... simply just can't wait for them to move into crypto, so we can wash the floor a bit with these old school hags. show them how real trading is done. and serve a side of ass kicking. everyday. cheers spiller 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: samuel999 on January 06, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
Shame on you; Bank Of America, CitiBank, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase etc.


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bank-fine-foreign-exchange-jpmorgan-citibank-20141112-story.html

Well if it's true, it's really nothing new.  Banks will got to any means to make a buck it seems like lately, and the government bails them out should their foolish investments get them into any trouble.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: spiller on January 06, 2015, 05:58:39 PM

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Henry Ford



No truer word said by any man.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/43/43cf632a366920c856905dadc3a9e853b58a6e72ad4b44fedb271d0cc9e34f30.jpg

the invisible chains are hard to see. yet everyone wants more ... lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: sandykho47 on January 07, 2015, 08:28:32 AM
Banks is of the most biggest scamming system in modern history
Only traditional economic system / bitcoin can prevent this


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: micky123 on January 07, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
There is no doubt at all in my mind that banks are also manipulating BTC to their benefit - Creating panic and large scale pump and dumps to scare people away from Bitcoin. They are afraid that if mass adoption of Bitcoin takes place, they will lose their business. I am sure there is a cartel of banks somewhere trying to stop the adoption of Bitcoin, and they seem to be succeeding too. They dont really need to invest too much to cause a dump unfortunately! >:(


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Net5kY on January 07, 2015, 08:39:21 AM
Gold would be best currency


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: cbeast on January 07, 2015, 08:45:38 AM
Gold would be best currency
On the internet gold is only a color.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Hope78 on January 07, 2015, 12:06:08 PM
''Banks caught scamming!''
This sound like a paradox to me. They run a legit scam anyway.


Title: Re: Bitcoin > Banks! WINNING! Banks caught scamming!
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on January 15, 2015, 09:11:08 PM
thats true .many bussines plan think about it

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--Z3rvirQzvQ/UZBHuMpXyOI/AAAAAAAAL4s/Jo16j6c1Z8s/s1600/Phishing-Bank_Scam.jpg