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Title: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on November 23, 2014, 11:14:32 PM
Is it illegal to respond to posts in this neck of the woods with an lol, or a happy face, or something? I had 4 of my posts deleted because they were one character responses. If this is not allowed I will not do it anymore, but doesn't a reply sometimes warrant a happy face, on my own threads even?  Is it typical for mods to scroll your history and delete posts here?  Just let me know so I don't keep breaking the Bittalk rules plz and thx.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: maku on November 24, 2014, 12:01:14 AM
Why do you want to post some useless response like happy smiley or something like that? You need to write at least something constructive.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: -ck on November 24, 2014, 12:05:00 AM
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Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on November 24, 2014, 01:58:36 AM
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Thanks a bunch, never saw those. A little tight ass, but I can dig it.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on November 24, 2014, 02:00:29 AM
Why do you want to post some useless response like happy smiley or something like that? You need to write at least something constructive.


Really. It's crazy to think a happy face response can actually piss someone off so much. Have you read the dumb shit people say in forums?  A happy face should be the least of the worries. But it's in the rules, no problem.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: hilariousandco on November 24, 2014, 05:55:51 AM
It's not really because it pisses people off but because it's pointless and spammy and some people just use them as a way to pump up their post count. If we allowed it some users post history would consist entirely of lols and smilies.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: Argwai96 on November 24, 2014, 06:03:19 AM
Is it illegal to respond to posts in this neck of the woods with an lol, or a happy face, or something? I had 4 of my posts deleted because they were one character responses. If this is not allowed I will not do it anymore, but doesn't a reply sometimes warrant a happy face, on my own threads even?  Is it typical for mods to scroll your history and delete posts here?  Just let me know so I don't keep breaking the Bittalk rules plz and thx.
No this is not against the rules, but you must add to the conversation in some way. If all you do is post +1 as a reply to a quote/thread then your response will likely be deleted as it does not add to the conversation. If however you add a +1 or a smiley to a post and then add additional comments then this would be acceptable.

No mods do not scroll through your posts looking for these kinds of things. They will generally respond to reports made by users of the forum who are reporting these kinds of spam posts.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: hilariousandco on November 24, 2014, 06:06:04 AM
No mods do not scroll through your posts looking for these kinds of things. They will generally respond to reports made by users of the forum who are reporting these kinds of spam posts.

They might once a person has been reported for posting +1s or smilies etc. It's a good idea to check anyway to see if their post history is littered with them.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: Argwai96 on November 24, 2014, 06:35:04 AM
No mods do not scroll through your posts looking for these kinds of things. They will generally respond to reports made by users of the forum who are reporting these kinds of spam posts.

They might once a person has been reported for posting +1s or smilies etc. It's a good idea to check anyway to see if their post history is littered with them.
I guess this could be true. However I don't think this would be expected unless a global mod is responding to a report as someone could be responding to a report about a post in the off topic section then the poster/spammer has a bunch of "+1's" in the service discussion section (just as examples) then the "local" moderator would not be able to do anything with the service discussion spam posts other then report them; at least this is my understanding of how it works


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: hilariousandco on November 24, 2014, 06:49:07 AM
Well it's probably not expected and it's up to the individual whether they do or not, but I normally have a quick check and if they're a newb patrollers - such as myself - can delete them, but if not staff can just report them as well which I normally do.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on November 24, 2014, 12:40:17 PM
Well it's probably not expected and it's up to the individual whether they do or not, but I normally have a quick check and if they're a newb patrollers - such as myself - can delete them, but if not staff can just report them as well which I normally do.

Nice. Enjoy the power.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: egghead123 on November 24, 2014, 03:05:08 PM
Why do you want to post some useless response like happy smiley or something like that? You need to write at least something constructive.


Really. It's crazy to think a happy face response can actually piss someone off so much. Have you read the dumb shit people say in forums?  A happy face should be the least of the worries. But it's in the rules, no problem.


+1     ..oops         ...I better add to the +1 so it doesnt get deleted  etc etc.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: Haruko on December 01, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
Why do you want to post some useless response like happy smiley or something like that? You need to write at least something constructive.


Really. It's crazy to think a happy face response can actually piss someone off so much. Have you read the dumb shit people say in forums?  A happy face should be the least of the worries. But it's in the rules, no problem.

newbie here!!

I think who rules are necessary for the proper life and survival of the forum.
I give you an example.
If you participate in a campaign signatures, where you get paid, do you think correct write threads only with ":-)" or "+1" or "LOL" ???

I do not believe it...

so.. some little rules are welcome!!!


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: MichaelBliss on December 01, 2014, 09:55:53 PM
What about this:....

"^^^^ THIS!"   <----  are you allowed to do that, 'cuz that's always kind of annoyed me.    :D


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: Brewins on December 01, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
What about this:....

"^^^^ THIS!"   <----  are you allowed to do that, 'cuz that's always kind of annoyed me.    :D

No, you are not allowed.

It is the same as +1 posts, you agree but put no contend in the msg.

Even they being illegal, it is not uncommon see some of them not being deleted


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on December 01, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
What about this:....

"^^^^ THIS!"   <----  are you allowed to do that, 'cuz that's always kind of annoyed me.    :D

No, you are not allowed.

It is the same as +1 posts, you agree but put no contend in the msg.

Even they being illegal, it is not uncommon see some of them not being deleted

 ;D   


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Thank you much kind sir for the very in depth explanation of the circumstances. 
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Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: Vod on December 02, 2014, 05:24:12 AM
Is it illegal to respond to posts in this neck of the woods with an lol, or a happy face, or something? I had 4 of my posts deleted because they were one character responses. If this is not allowed I will not do it anymore, but doesn't a reply sometimes warrant a happy face, on my own threads even?  Is it typical for mods to scroll your history and delete posts here?  Just let me know so I don't keep breaking the Bittalk rules plz and thx.

That's why I'm hoping the software will allow us to "+1" a post.  We can indicate our agreement without needing to post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622992.0


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: hilariousandco on December 02, 2014, 05:57:09 AM
Many people seem to not like the idea of a +1/like/thanks button but I think it's good in these type of situations. There's many times people have given good and valuable advice to others and I'd like to acknowledge that without actually just posting 'thanks' or whatever.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: Fernandez on December 02, 2014, 06:30:26 AM
Many people seem to not like the idea of a +1/like/thanks button but I think it's good in these type of situations. There's many times people have given good and valuable advice to others and I'd like to acknowledge that without actually just posting 'thanks' or whatever.

It will surely be in the new forum?


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: hilariousandco on December 02, 2014, 06:35:35 AM
I've no idea. A few people have suggested it but I've seen nothing concrete from the devs saying it will be implemented.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on December 02, 2014, 07:22:50 AM
I've no idea. A few people have suggested it but I've seen nothing concrete from the devs saying it will be implemented.

Tough call.  It has it's ups and downs. Is it possible to offer a toggle option lol


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on December 04, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
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Really? This place is worse then reddit. So let me see. NO  1 word responses. No responses with emotion only. And no puns or jokes?  The censorship in these forums is insane. I will defiantly focus on promoting other means of communication where you can post a comment that doesn't get deleted.  Why don't you guys take your resources devoted to deleting replies to filtering the scams and fraud in this place?


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: shorena on December 04, 2014, 05:10:15 PM
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Really? This place is worse then reddit. So let me see. NO  1 word responses. No responses with emotion only. And no puns or jokes?  The censorship in these forums is insane. I will defiantly focus on promoting other means of communication where you can post a comment that doesn't get deleted.  Why don't you guys take your resources devoted to deleting replies to filtering the scams and fraud in this place?

What is your argument here? Is it: "only because you're chef ramsey" is contributing to a discussion in a meaningfull way? Because just because your comment got deleted does not mean you are censored. The sentence confirming you retweet something has no value for anyone but the person you retweet it for and that person would know about it via twitter.
Just because your comment is not "+1" but a little longer does not magically give it value in terms of a discussion and after all this is a discussionboard.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on December 04, 2014, 05:28:29 PM
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Really? This place is worse then reddit. So let me see. NO  1 word responses. No responses with emotion only. And no puns or jokes?  The censorship in these forums is insane. I will defiantly focus on promoting other means of communication where you can post a comment that doesn't get deleted.  Why don't you guys take your resources devoted to deleting replies to filtering the scams and fraud in this place?

What is your argument here? Is it: "only because you're chef ramsey" is contributing to a discussion in a meaningfull way? Because just because your comment got deleted does not mean you are censored. The sentence confirming you retweet something has no value for anyone but the person you retweet it for and that person would know about it via twitter.
Just because your comment is not "+1" but a little longer does not magically give it value in terms of a discussion and after all this is a discussionboard.

Have you ever been in a discussion with another person? Not EVERY SINGLE word said is solving the world issues. Sometimes people say a comment that isn't the end too an issue. Are you saying, every comment in this forum has to solve an issue? I am slightly confused with how promoting a twitter tweet really has any grounding in this forum then? Or half the threads in here. Seems pretty picky and choosy to me. The censorship in this place is garbage. People will sometimes respond with a sentence, word or paragraph that doesn't solve world hunger.  They face that someone is monitoring those comments while people are getting ripped off tens of thousands daily on this site is a joke. Get your priorities straight. Discussion is now a word to describe quality exchange of words, not just two people conversing? Awesome. And it's not an argument. I am stating your censorship that it's bullshit and very ironic given the context.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: shorena on December 04, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
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Have you ever been in a discussion with another person? Not EVERY SINGLE word said is solving the world issues. Sometimes people say a comment that isn't the end too an issue. Are you saying, every comment in this forum has to solve an issue? I am slightly confused with how promoting a twitter tweet really has any grounding in this forum then? Or half the threads in here. Seems pretty picky and choosy to me. The censorship in this place is garbage. People will sometimes respond with a sentence, word or paragraph that doesn't solve world hunger.  They face that someone is monitoring those comments while people are getting ripped off tens of thousands daily on this site is a joke. Get your priorities straight. Discussion is now a word to describe quality exchange of words, not just two people conversing? Awesome. And it's not an argument. I am stating your censorship that it's bullshit.

A discussion is still a discussion even when there is no solution. You can try to twist my words all you want, but as you yourself said its promotion, not a discussion. Actually its not even promotion its just the confirmation of a possibly promotional tweet. When someone deems it low value / spam that someone can report the post, a staff member will review this and if they think the same the post gets deleted.
How is: "yeah Ill retweet that" a meaningfull part of a conversation? How is it important to post that? It is not and would I have encountered it, I would have reported it aswell.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on December 04, 2014, 05:57:02 PM
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Have you ever been in a discussion with another person? Not EVERY SINGLE word said is solving the world issues. Sometimes people say a comment that isn't the end too an issue. Are you saying, every comment in this forum has to solve an issue? I am slightly confused with how promoting a twitter tweet really has any grounding in this forum then? Or half the threads in here. Seems pretty picky and choosy to me. The censorship in this place is garbage. People will sometimes respond with a sentence, word or paragraph that doesn't solve world hunger.  They face that someone is monitoring those comments while people are getting ripped off tens of thousands daily on this site is a joke. Get your priorities straight. Discussion is now a word to describe quality exchange of words, not just two people conversing? Awesome. And it's not an argument. I am stating your censorship that it's bullshit.

A discussion is still a discussion even when there is no solution. You can try to twist my words all you want, but as you yourself said its promotion, not a discussion. Actually its not even promotion its just the confirmation of a possibly promotional tweet. When someone deems it low value / spam that someone can report the post, a staff member will review this and if they think the same the post gets deleted.
How is: "yeah Ill retweet that" a meaningfull part of a conversation? How is it important to post that? It is not and would I have encountered it, I would have reported it aswell.



Don't accuse me of twisting your words, I am stating the facts. This is a discussion board. Not every word of a discussion is going to be 100% directed at solving a cause. There is going to be some alright's and okays. I will restate my stance, that is these comments are your biggest issue, the priorities might want to be reevaluated in order to devote a little more attention to the scams and actual crime that happens here, not a comment you didn't particularly personally think was a good response to a discussion.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: shorena on December 04, 2014, 06:21:04 PM
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Don't accuse me of twisting your words, I am stating the facts. This is a discussion board. Not every word of a discussion is going to be 100% directed at solving a cause. There is going to be some alright's and okays. I will restate my stance, that is these comments are your biggest issue, the priorities might want to be reevaluated in order to devote a little more attention to the scams and actual crime that happens here, not a comment you didn't particularly personally think was a good response to a discussion.

I have a feeling you dont even understand my point. Again, as discussion is still a discussion even if its not directed at solving anything. The post in question however has no value towards a discussion as it is not part of a discussion, even a "+1" has more value even though I would still consider it spam. Than again, maybe I dont know enough about the thread in question to judge how meaning full "yeall Ill retweet" that is in the context of the thread. Maybe it would surprise me.

The forums stance regarding scams is well known and just because there are thieves out there does not make your post appear less spammy, at least to me. In the end my personal opinion does matter very little anyway, but I doubt you will have a chance convincing the moderation team. In the end this is a privatly run forum and noone here is remotly able to cenor you in your ability to speak publicly you may just have to do so elsewhere.


Title: Re: Deleted posts
Post by: sobitcoin on December 04, 2014, 07:12:51 PM
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Don't accuse me of twisting your words, I am stating the facts. This is a discussion board. Not every word of a discussion is going to be 100% directed at solving a cause. There is going to be some alright's and okays. I will restate my stance, that is these comments are your biggest issue, the priorities might want to be reevaluated in order to devote a little more attention to the scams and actual crime that happens here, not a comment you didn't particularly personally think was a good response to a discussion.

I have a feeling you dont even understand my point. Again, as discussion is still a discussion even if its not directed at solving anything. The post in question however has no value towards a discussion as it is not part of a discussion, even a "+1" has more value even though I would still consider it spam. Than again, maybe I dont know enough about the thread in question to judge how meaning full "yeall Ill retweet" that is in the context of the thread. Maybe it would surprise me.

The forums stance regarding scams is well known and just because there are thieves out there does not make your post appear less spammy, at least to me. In the end my personal opinion does matter very little anyway, but I doubt you will have a chance convincing the moderation team. In the end this is a privatly run forum and noone here is remotly able to cenor you in your ability to speak publicly you may just have to do so elsewhere.


Yup it is. You're right. I apologize about my confrontational posts, i was a little argumentative earlier.  Personally, I think there is other areas to devote resources, and don't see some of these posts as the least bit spammy or unnecessary to be honest.  It is, a private message board, and if it was mine, I would tell people like me to STFU most likely because the owner is free to do what they want.  I'll eat my words, but I do think the post deletes could be relaxed a tad as it is a very contextual base in most instances. ANYHOW, I apologize for arguing and enjoy a healthy debate.  Have a good afternoon, i'll work on my post quality   ;)