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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nsa-bitcoin-1996/

Well basically this article claims that satoshi was actually a "retired" nsa agent, i put quotations around retired cause i have no clue why the article author is making the assumption that he retired.

Basically i knew this for a long time, that bitcoin is actually made to enslave us even more, and thats the reason i am investing in it... Sounds stupid right?
Well no, the fact that the nsa is behind all this i know that its not going to fail, and yes one day the whole world will be using bitcoin, a currency that does not physically exists and has no intrinsic value.
Isn't it obvious? First human beings used trade using commodities, anything with intrinsic value was regarded as money, then we started using gold, again, it holds physical value. Then the deception began, they took the gold, gave us paper, and told us the value was in the gold we had in the banks, then that disappeared.
So we had valueless paper that we call money, then we slowly started losing the paper, you see, you cant have total control over people if you cannot see their money, they can still hide it. So digital money was introduced, through credit cards and banks, soon the paper will disappear, and we will only have digital currency (this will be the triggered by the dollar collapse) the world will have no solution except digital currency, with break through technology like the blockchain, it will be the only way to go on with the economy, and all that will be done in the name of freedom and privacy.

So what does this mean?
Its too late to do anything...
So invest in bitcoin!!!!

What do you think?

tattle, staple of jokes

No, dig deeper.

It only makes sense.. Connect the dots

Do your research......

http://originalcontroltheory.tumblr.com/

.....and there is another thread about this stuff going on right now........

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235289.msg9636129#msg9636129

First of all, bitcoin is open source code. Satoshi could prove himself to be the NSA, Ben Bernanke, or Bill Cosby and it wouldn't affect my opinion of the technology one way or the other. What matters is how bitcoin works, and how it's going to evolve in the future; not what it's origin is.

Secondly, that NSA system seems much more like a re-hash (har har) of David Chaum's work, than it does a more direct bitcoin pre-cursor. By contrast, early systems such as b-money, RPOW, and Bit gold seem much more bitcoin-like. Adam Back was kind enough to lay some of this out recently:

I understand where you're coming from, but you see, why would okomato write a report for the national security agency?

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/is-the-national-security-agency-behind-bitcoin/

He's also a cryptographer
http://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/author.php?authorkey=59


Don't get me wrong, if anything this makes me feel more secure about bitcoin, those people have never failed for hundreds of years.

I am  more certain than ever that Bitcoin will exceed the 100k mark

^ Why would Gavin go meet with the NSA? If they ask, you do....so he did.

If you say no... you're still getting a meeting with them.

http://media2.giphy.com/media/wIpn8hSuFFyF2/200_s.gif

I think you need to have some appreciation for the fact that there's a lot of crossover in the intellectual work between top cryptographers and top cryptographer-employers like the NSA. The ideas circulate, get discussed, evolved, partially implemented here and there, poked and prodded, etc. The fact that the NSA was interested in digital cash in 1996 is hardly surprising, nor is the form it took (ie, some evolution of Chaum's ideas, notions of which were popular at the time).

If you're looking for evolutionary ancestors to Bitcoin, Bit gold looks far closer: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html.

Not saying it wasn't an NSA project, though. Who knows. Doesn't matter.

^ Now add this to BitGold:

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2007/06/nanobarter.html?m=

Of course you would need this included also:

http://szabo.best.vwh.net/scarce.html

I do agree that it doesn't really matter, it is an open-source project that's already out in the wild.

Maybe a division of the CIA. NSA listens to the world, the CIA acts on it.

Great fiction novel
I can see it being made into a movie
Dig a bit deeper to find the true weapon were building known only to the Hero and Legend members on the forum  ;)
(Were all in on it hehe)

Bitcoin is an intelligence tool, just not that kind of intelligence tool.

uhm... nah

What if the NSA created bitcoin to catch drug dealers and stuff?

Mind Blown

Yup seems to be working quite well these days

Yes, they are!!! Isn't that cool or what?!?

Next topic ....

I don't think it does matter really , since Bitcoin is an open source and it dosen't need goverments to work. so yeah...

The biggest LIE that all of those that blindly believe in bitcoin is that it is open source

99.9% of the world has no real clue what open source is, and 99% of the bitcoin crowd doesn't either

As a misanthrope I honestly believe 99.99% of humanity is a waste of energy and needs to be exterminated

That all being said I will expound upon the above and show you just how little the experts on bitcoin know

a. the first bitcoin core was not open, it was closed and it generated a ton of coins for very few people

b. bitcoin is open source, but this is what that means, that means anyone that knows how to read code can view the source and pick apart its weaknesses, and bitcoin's core is weak, the reason it is weak is that the whole Snowden affair over NSA documents involves the NSA's ability to issue corrupt seed keys through NIST for ECC style encryption, and Bitcoin uses ECC crypto, the stuff the NSA is know to have corrupted.

c. Guys with no real crypto experience that think bitcoin came from god then say oh no bitcoin uses Koblitz curve ECC, well Koblitz is one of the original movers of all ECC crypto and he has long connections to the NSA and literally three days before the Satoshi white paper came to light Koblitz the guy whose crypto is used by bitcoin, released a paper praising himself, the NSA and ECC as to how secure it was, now today we know that ECC is totally backdoored by the NSA, so if you have even a minor IQ you realize that the crypto bitcoin uses is backdoored as all ECC crypto is.

Now the koolaid believers in crypto refuse to believe these FACTS, so they cry and call names and moan it's all lies, yet the fact is even the name the NSA used shows an intelligence org created btc, Nakamoto Satoshi is loosely translated into CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE.

NSA contros crypto in USA and the WORLD, so they did it and they used Satoshi Nakamoto as inside joke to point to the CIA.

To me, it's a new internet currency and since everything is back doored, so what, all I know is for bitcoin casinos and porn and other adult stuff you can take it and spend it and convert it, so I could care less what it's worth, as long as it has a value I can take it today and buy something or keep some or convert it.

It's not the holy grail to me, it's in my opinion an intelligence operation like TOR is.

Just search on search engines for CIA BITCOIN

Then read the info and you can wiki the names and see these guys in crypto exist they have long ties to the NSA and yes there's a reason no one has ever seen Satoshi, he's what they call a LEGEND in spookland, and a legend is a fake person.

Bitcoin was designed for dark ops, drugs, maybe gambling, child porn and the sex slave trade, IMO.

If you don't think the NSA is involved in massive drug ops or the CIA, then you don't know history.

So the NSA and CIA can now use bitcoin to fund their black op activities and have no banking trace.

Plus the backdoor allows them to bust anyone they want.

You sound like quite the tyrant. Yes, there are lots of people who contribute nothing to the world and make you lose faith in humanity sometimes, but I bet there's vastly more than the 1% that have contributed more than you.

This is also my reasoning. It doesn't really matter who created it - it is still a fantastic and revolutionary idea. And even if satoshi was ex or current NSA they don't exactly have stupid people working for them. I don't believe it was a NSA invention though. Don't see what purpose they could have with it. Seems like it would do more harm than good to them in my opinion.

I have it on good authority that Obama himself funded the project.

*puts on tin foil hat*

Yeah over 100 books and having a few laws of math and physics named for me means nothing plus giving the morons named humans a real plan to have global clean free energy within a generation is nothing and forming a university and creating the OS that will actually run AI robots, is nothing.

10K years from now my name will be known, you are forgotten within 10 minutes of your death like the 99.9% that did NOTHING on this planet, the reason I'm a misanthrope is I know humanity and I'm steering it so it survives what's coming. Without me humanity would be terminated within the next generation from what's coming.

Mappo is near and I'm JOGYO

I mostly look into lending section to have a laugh, but this one is good too  :D

OP are you high on something? That explains a lot  ;D

Oh yes, again with the conspiracy theory's:

- BITCOIN is a plan to control us.

- BITCOIN is a hoax created by the UN and politically funded scientists, aided by Al Gore and many others to put cap and trade in place for monetary gain.

- BITCOIN was created by the CIA, NSA, PENTAGON, DOD, MI6, KGB, FBI...

- BITCOIN is used as a smokescreen by the government to cover up bankrot

- BITCOIN is United States Department of Defense (DOD) experiment for mind control.

- BITCOIN is part of an insidious Communist plot

- BITCOIN is actually a Soviet mind control experiment. You can protect your brain by wearing you-know-what.

- BITCOIN is a part of Stargate program and that the Iraq War may have been caused because Saddam Hussein had altcoin.

- BITCOIN was created by oil industry.

- BITCOIN was created to hide HAARP

- BITCOIN was made for antichrist, when he comes to the Earth to trick people that Jesus has returned.

- BITCOIN was created by the US Government.

- BITCOIN was created by the Israeli government.

- BITCOIN was created by the Illuminati.

- BITCOIN was created by the Rothschilds.

- BITCOIN was created by North Korea, to control South Korea.
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Lol. You've authored over a 100 books or you've read 100 books or what? Give me your name so we can see how revolutionary you are? I suspect you're just a troll who has nothing better to do which instantly puts you in the loser category who has done nothing and continues to do nothing with their life.

I really doubt they're behind bitcoin, though if they were it would help the CIA launder all their money earned from the global drug trade :)

There are lots of conspiracy theories regarding btc, most of them can be considered bullshit tin foilery

every 4-6 weeks another 'bitcoin is NSA thread pops up'.  very doubtful it is true and even if it is, it doesn't matter.

Asher 'Hayah Asher

That's what I tell mental midgets like you that like to call people names, so you think I'm a troll, yet what I said was 100% fact, see how insignificant you are now that you know I am real.

LOL

So there you got towlah

Asher 'Hayah Asher

I am he

Also, all inventions in the history of mankind were made by CIA/NSA/KGB

Lending section is boring. Just the same old petty scammers time and time again. At least this forum has some good conspircay tards and trolls that keep you entertained.


You're very likely a nobody but like nobodies/trolls they like to troll to try validate themselves on the internet. Facts require proof so please provide them so we all know this forum has been graced with the presence of a bonafide genius.

And what does towlah mean?

The evidence for the NSA's involvement in bitcoin is the same as the evidence that unicorns are involved. That is to say that it exists in the tin foil wrapped heads of a few. There is absolutely not a single shred of actual evidence for it.

Same like we say Alien who build pyramid ....
Too much conspiracy in this world , and for some case we will not find the answer.

Bitcoin was likely just created by a really smart guy... a really smart guy who nobody knows who he is.


But Aliens did create the pyramids. Have you not seen the documentary series Ancient Aliens?  The evidence is all there  :D.

Like all things people can't or don't want to understand they create conspiracies so they can shut off their brain. Bitcoin is no different, especially because of satoshi's mysterious identity.

I'm sure Ancient Aliens will create an episode about Bitcoin in the near future  :D. Someone actually photoshopped a bitcoin logo into the hieroglyphs on a pyramid wall a while back. Maybe someone can find the picture.

You know how stupid this response is?

NSA has controlled crypto around the world for 5 decades

Every major player in crypto has ties to the NSA

Snowden docs prove the NSA has used corrupt keys for years with ECC

ECC is the crypto used in bitcoin core

Koblitz crypto is the exact ecc crypto used and neal koblitz has ties to the NSA

yet you think no shred of evidence

THE ABOVE IS PROOF the NSA is connected to anything in crypto world

And it shows crypto that they have back doors to is what bitcoin uses

haha

Well I agree that the NSA is very involved in cryptography. That does not mean that they made my Cap'n crunch decoder ring or bitcoin. When you say they have a "back door" in bitcoin, please show me where that is in the source code.

Since he's also very good at math, perhaps he'd also be so kind as to mathematically illuminate for us low-IQ rabble how secp256k1 is broken.

lets get real guys, when btc gets big, they are goin to roll out their own version of bitcoin.they can talk the mainstream into anything.

Personally I'd find it kind of funny that this thing we use, on digital computers originally developed for the military, over the internet, originally developed for the military, using microchip technology originally developed for the military, and a hashing algo, originally developed for the military, that it would be a deal breaker if there were NSA involvement in the bitcoin protocol.

But I guess if you don't like it, you could just drive, over roads developed for a military (Google pershing map or Roman roads) and use the regular bank.

Remember all this digital tech was back engineered from ROSWELL

haha

So it's all ALIEN

Ecuador is already trying that...we'll see what happens.

You are right, the vast majority of technology that is used today is somewhat based on something that was originally designed for the military. Even the technology that is used by social media has some roots from the military.

If you fear that Bitcoin was designed by the NSA/military and is therefore somehow insecure because of some kind of backdoor then you are wrong. Bitcoin is open source and many people have inspected the code and have put a lot of effort into finding weaknesses (including "backdoors") in Bitcoin

Some people say: we do not worry too much because they can not control things .

FUD website with stupid popups and cyber-begging bullshit (i.e. please turn off your adblocker! muh fees!)

TL:DR  OP is a faggot for linking that shit here.

This morning, I don't know why but a theory came in my mind that CIA is collecting funding by creating BTC.