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Title: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 14, 2012, 07:44:06 PM I am using my "i3 2100" Intel HD graphics 2000 as default, and mining away with a ATI 5850 with a dummy plug.
In which, at first, I uninstalled the intel graphics driver, popped in the 5850 on my board, booted to bios, set the card as default, went into win7, installed the sdk & ati driver, rebooted back into win7, checked out GPU-z, it was showing both intel and ati, so it popped in my head to go to bios set intel as default, booted to win7, reinstalled intel graphics drivers, rebooted back into win7, and found out I am able to mine on the ati card and use the intel graphics at the same time. This is wickedly awesome, which I thought I had read somewhere, the intel graphics cannot be used while a graphics card was plugged into the board. If I had read correct, they were wrong. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: AzN1337c0d3r on June 14, 2012, 07:52:47 PM You're mining using OpenCL on the Intel CPU, not the GPU.
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 14, 2012, 08:01:10 PM You're mining using OpenCL on the Intel CPU, not the GPU. I'm not mining off of my processor. Like stated, I am mining off of the 5850 with a dummy plug and using the intel hd graphics for my desktop. If i were to use the 5850 for the mining and working on the desktop, I would not be able to move my mouse using -f 1. OpenCL CPU would def not be able to hash at 375. https://i.imgur.com/JEEyQ.jpg Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: AzN1337c0d3r on June 14, 2012, 09:29:33 PM I am able to mine on the ati card and use the intel graphics at the same time. This was a bit misleading, thought you were mining on both. Anyways what you posted make sense to me now. You were rendering on 5850 before and now the Intel GPU has taken over. The graphics card now just appears as any add-on OpenCL accelerator would. If you have Z68 chipset you can even seamlessly switch between both. http://www.lucidlogix.com/product-virtu-gpu.html Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: stevegee58 on June 14, 2012, 09:33:03 PM I never could get that setup working on my aging Dell. I've tried a plug on the video port and I've tried BIOS settings. But it still complains if I don't have the monitor plugged into the ATI mining GPU card no matter what. So I render on the ATI card and just live with it.
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: Red Emerald on June 14, 2012, 09:37:13 PM I never could get that setup working on my aging Dell. I've tried a plug on the video port and I've tried BIOS settings. But it still complains if I don't have the monitor plugged into the ATI mining GPU card no matter what. So I render on the ATI card and just live with it. Well if it's Windows, you need a dummy plug on the ATI card.Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 14, 2012, 09:55:06 PM I am able to mine on the ati card and use the intel graphics at the same time. This was a bit misleading, thought you were mining on both. Anyways what you posted make sense to me now. You were rendering on 5850 before and now the Intel GPU has taken over. The graphics card now just appears as any add-on OpenCL accelerator would. If you have Z68 chipset you can even seamlessly switch between both. http://www.lucidlogix.com/product-virtu-gpu.html Exactly. I'm actually on Z75 chipset. Don't know if it still complies. In a few months, I will mess with this lucidlogix, see how it goes. Bookmarked. @steve, take Red Emerald's advice. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: scifimike12 on June 14, 2012, 10:16:47 PM The only downfall using integrated graphics is that you're going to be consuming a little more power.
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 14, 2012, 11:17:05 PM The only downfall using integrated graphics is that you're going to be consuming a little more power. That's ok. I'd rather do it this way, so there isn't any interference with my mining :). Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: AzN1337c0d3r on June 15, 2012, 12:26:08 AM Lucid Virtu is also available on some Z75 motherboards.
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 15, 2012, 12:39:13 AM Lucid Virtu is also available on some Z75 motherboards. Sure is available for my board. I was wondering what that lucid was for when I first got this board. Lucid virtu didn't really pop till I seen your last post and had to check the download section. http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.asp?Model=Z75%20Pro3&o=Win764 Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 15, 2012, 12:49:03 AM With it installed, should I have Virtu On or Off? I do not want anything using the 5850 except GUIMiner, of course :p..
Edit: Very interesting read indeed. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4199/lucids-virtu-enables-simultaneous-integrateddiscrete-gpu-on-sandy-bridge-platforms I believe I need it off for what I am doing for the next few months. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: stevegee58 on June 15, 2012, 01:26:27 AM I never could get that setup working on my aging Dell. I've tried a plug on the video port and I've tried BIOS settings. But it still complains if I don't have the monitor plugged into the ATI mining GPU card no matter what. So I render on the ATI card and just live with it. Well if it's Windows, you need a dummy plug on the ATI card.Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 15, 2012, 01:33:20 AM I never could get that setup working on my aging Dell. I've tried a plug on the video port and I've tried BIOS settings. But it still complains if I don't have the monitor plugged into the ATI mining GPU card no matter what. So I render on the ATI card and just live with it. Well if it's Windows, you need a dummy plug on the ATI card.Hm, are you using the correct resisters and/or tried a different plug with the same resistors? Here is a great guide, if you like to make sure everything is in place correctly. http://www.overclock.net/t/384733/the-30-second-dummy-plug As it should work. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: stevegee58 on June 15, 2012, 01:59:21 AM I was surprised it didn't work. I made the plug myself with resistors (I'm an engineer not a noob with this stuff) but no go.
Maybe I'll have another whack at it. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: ssateneth on June 15, 2012, 08:01:48 AM Why would you need to use a dummy plug? Drivers 11.7 and greater dont need dummy plug.
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 15, 2012, 03:38:00 PM Why would you need to use a dummy plug? Drivers 11.7 and greater dont need dummy plug. I am using 12.1, for my situation, I pulled my dummy plug, the driver on my operating system spits out [you need ati/amd graphics card for driver to work] in some similarity of them lines. So, without the dummy plugin, the 5850 I have here is undetectable. I recall last December, when I was mining with two 5830's, I didn't need a dummy plug. & I forgot how to use the function to bypass the dummy plug, I went to extend "i think extend" the card, but there is no extend option in the CCC. Note: thank goodness for lazurus addon, I almost lost every I wrote above, accidentally hit back button. Such an awesome addon. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: Red Emerald on June 15, 2012, 05:01:35 PM Why would you need to use a dummy plug? Drivers 11.7 and greater dont need dummy plug. I am using 12.1, for my situation, I pulled my dummy plug, the driver on my operating system spits out [you need ati/amd graphics card for driver to work] in some similarity of them lines. So, without the dummy plugin, the 5850 I have here is undetectable. I recall last December, when I was mining with two 5830's, I didn't need a dummy plug. & I forgot how to use the function to bypass the dummy plug, I went to extend "i think extend" the card, but there is no extend option in the CCC. Note: thank goodness for lazurus addon, I almost lost every I wrote above, accidentally hit back button. Such an awesome addon. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: ssateneth on June 15, 2012, 06:53:51 PM *shrug* I use 11.12 and 12.1 for all my miners and none of them need dummy plugs.
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: stevegee58 on June 15, 2012, 06:55:16 PM Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: AndrewBUD on June 15, 2012, 07:07:04 PM Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver..
I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck.... 12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel.. On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: Red Emerald on June 15, 2012, 09:24:11 PM Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver.. Rigs with mixed 7 and 5 series cards will never be optimal :(I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck.... 12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel.. On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 15, 2012, 10:32:43 PM If I hit forward and back in Chrome, my text doesn't disappear and I don't have any addons. I just tested it with this post. What browser are you using? Firefox, i believe because I have scripts blocked, just came to mind, beat tired.*shrug* I use 11.12 and 12.1 for all my miners and none of them need dummy plugs. I wonder if because I have in bios, graphics set to onboard "intel's graphics". But I have it set at this, as explained in op. But other than that, I've got two cards mining away nicely. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: ssateneth on June 16, 2012, 01:42:50 AM Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver.. Rigs with mixed 7 and 5 series cards will never be optimal :(I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck.... 12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel.. On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs. Not true. You can, and should, install 2.1 SDK for the 5850 to mine on, and 2.6 for the 7950. 2.1 is a completely separate OpenCL platform and installs in a completely seperate path from 2.4+. It's VLIW4 hardware (69xx) that is pretty much screwed if you want to use it with GCN hardware, since 2.4/2.5 is fastest with VLIW4, but is incompatible for GCN, and 2.6 is slow as molasses with VLIW4 but is required for GCN. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: AndrewBUD on June 16, 2012, 01:12:18 PM What if your mixing cards.. I have one 7950 and one 5850 as my desktop card in this rig....
Can you run two SDK's ??? Running the Catalyst 12.6 beta... Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: pekv2 on June 16, 2012, 04:42:32 PM Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver.. Rigs with mixed 7 and 5 series cards will never be optimal :(I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck.... 12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel.. On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs. Not true. You can, and should, install 2.1 SDK for the 5850 to mine on, and 2.6 for the 7950. 2.1 is a completely separate OpenCL platform and installs in a completely seperate path from 2.4+. It's VLIW4 hardware (69xx) that is pretty much screwed if you want to use it with GCN hardware, since 2.4/2.5 is fastest with VLIW4, but is incompatible for GCN, and 2.6 is slow as molasses with VLIW4 but is required for GCN. I tried installing 2.1, but it wouldn't, stating a higher sdk is already installed, 2.5. It's very complicated if you ask me, from looking at the pm's we bounced back and forth. Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: AndrewBUD on June 17, 2012, 02:20:25 AM I have both installed.... What would work better with the 7950 a 6870 or 5850?
Title: Re: If no one ever knew, which I didn't. Post by: easyMony on December 04, 2013, 03:03:31 PM Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver.. I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck.... 12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel.. On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs. Hi, the dummy is required to avoid this: Code: [2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 0 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Regards |
