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Title: Hashstaker?
Post by: Karnigel on November 30, 2014, 08:41:28 AM
Mein Englisch ist leider nicht so gut, könnte mir das mal grob einer erklären?
Paycoins? o.O`?


http://www.gawminers.com/pages/hashstaker



Vielen Dank.


Title: Re: Hashstaker?
Post by: david123 on November 30, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
Eine Übersetzung von irgendwas kann ich dir jetzt nicht liefern, aber eine Warnung ;)
Das wird wohl das sein, wovon Puppet redete als er seine Wette  mit Anyayakubu absteckte:

The very simple bet I propose to you after your offer has been contaminated by all this in your above statement. You original statement of this contained nothing about reduced payout or satoshis. you were claiming PB was going to be gone. This is simple , not all that above , its so simple that your either betting PB mining.com as you prefer is either going to last to Nov. 25 or its not , has nothing to do with all that .

Sigh.You havent been around very long have you? Sounds like you dont even know what a satoshi (https://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcoin.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F114%2Fwhat-is-a-satoshi&ei=Lv54VPfiHYbCPMiVgYgF&usg=AFQjCNF-SCWNLpqL8QJwKypuRGMUc6u4eA&sig2=pcoHD1QA8H2jsm0flgu4gQ) is.

As for the formulation of the bet, this is what I wrote:"How much are you willing to bet on pb still honoring its contracts 12 months from now?". Thats not meant as precise terms to a bet, and now is the time to clarify the statement. You dont get to dictate the terms to me or tell me what I meant, we have to agree on the terms.

If PBmining begins paying out substantially less (*) than the theoretical mining revenue of the owned hashrate, to me its clear that violates the "contract".  How much constitutes "substantially", we can specify, but lets say 50%. Why do I want this  clarified? Because there are many ways pbmining can dissolve this ponzi. He can just turn the website off and run, but I can think of half a dozen other ways that essentially amount to the same, but do not necessarily fall under your terms.

For instance, if PBmining does what hashking did, Im not going to concede the bet.  If you never heard of hashking, google it, it was yet another ponzi (which I warned against), that collapsed and then began paying peanuts as reimbursements for a few months before vanishing completely. Or Pbmining could just unilaterally change the terms and conditions, like introducing fees, that consume the majority  of the mining revenue, he can decide to start paying in some new scamcoin like GAW is planning. etc, etc.

I want to bet with you that pbmining is a scam that will cost late investors most of their investment, I do not want to bet on what excuse the operator will come up with or how he may try to legitimize his theft.


Title: Re: Hashstaker?
Post by: Karnigel on November 30, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Scheint wohl das zu sein. Aber das erklärt mir ledier immer noch nicht so wirklich worum es da geht. ^^ bzw. ich verstehe es nicht :(