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Title: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: cashcrypto on November 30, 2014, 11:16:11 PM
around Bitcoin businesses as I have time on my hand. Anyone else think this is good ?


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: BitCoinDream on November 30, 2014, 11:21:40 PM
around Bitcoin businesses as I have time on my hand. Anyone else think this is good ?

Depends on what u r planning to discuss. This is indeed a good place o discuss ideas => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: cashcrypto on November 30, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
around Bitcoin businesses as I have time on my hand. Anyone else think this is good ?

Depends on what u r planning to discuss. This is indeed a good place o discuss ideas => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0

I wide-range of topics . From ideas of businesses people can build ( actually, start to create them ) to where they think everything is heading with Bitcoins/Crypto's in general. I'll check out that link. Thanks! 

Check it out! right, I was thinking a real-time discussion ;)


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: gogxmagog on November 30, 2014, 11:45:09 PM
there have been IRC groups around various crypto related endeavors. I personally like IRC BUT you will need to Moderate it heavily. You can see how abusive people become in here, and they supposedly had plenty of time to think, compose, and consider what they post first.

I'd participate if the name calling were to be minimised. And the trolling. And the shilling. And the...you get the point.

Let us know when its up and running, or maybe make it invite only? maybe a newbie jail to see if they can behave? Trolls can be amusing, but they are not constructive.


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: cashcrypto on November 30, 2014, 11:56:35 PM
there have been IRC groups around various crypto related endeavors. I personally like IRC BUT you will need to Moderate it heavily. You can see how abusive people become in here, and they supposedly had plenty of time to think, compose, and consider what they post first.

I'd participate if the name calling were to be minimised. And the trolling. And the shilling. And the...you get the point.

Let us know when its up and running, or maybe make it invite only? maybe a newbie jail to see if they can behave? Trolls can be amusing, but they are not constructive.

Right, I was thinking of how the quality of chat could be improved. I don't want people to think its all about hammer bans. I was thinking of "invite only" or pay a little bit of BTC but get returned once we know you aren't a troll . Would that work ?


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: franky1 on December 01, 2014, 01:05:21 AM
it doesnt cost money or time to set up a IRC channel.

so why not simply set up a gateway channel
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideanoob
for instance which is the unmoderated noob general chatter.

and then just by changing the hashtag you can instantly make new channels.
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideaintermed - moderated
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideaadvanced - moderated and invite only

if small groups want to form private chats they can set up their own private chats
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoidea1
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoidea2
.....
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoidea1000

it aint rocket science.. the hardest part is thinking up good channel names


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: cashcrypto on December 01, 2014, 01:12:56 AM
it doesnt cost money or time to set up a IRC channel.

so why not simply set up a gateway channel
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideanoob
for instance which is the unmoderated noob general chatter.

and then just by changing the hashtag you can instantly make new channels.
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideaintermed - moderated
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideaadvanced - moderated and invite only

if small groups want to form private chats they can set up their own private chats
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoidea1
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoidea2
.....
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoidea1000

it aint rocket science.. the hardest part is thinking up good channel names

I hear you Franky. The money aspect was to prevent trolls , but I hear what you are saying. I like what you are proposing here. Anyone know of good IRC chat software?


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: wunkbone on December 01, 2014, 01:15:59 AM
there have been IRC groups around various crypto related endeavors. I personally like IRC BUT you will need to Moderate it heavily. You can see how abusive people become in here, and they supposedly had plenty of time to think, compose, and consider what they post first.

I'd participate if the name calling were to be minimised. And the trolling. And the shilling. And the...you get the point.

Let us know when its up and running, or maybe make it invite only? maybe a newbie jail to see if they can behave? Trolls can be amusing, but they are not constructive.
I don't think it would be possible to have a newbie jail in an IRC channel. The only way to get out of newbie jail would have to be by viewing the IRC channel for long enough, but this oculd easily be faked with bots who would eventually put whatever spam in the channel.


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: franky1 on December 01, 2014, 01:31:53 AM
IRC software should be for moderators so that they can easily input commands. alot of people do not like downloading software onto machines as it has the smal changes of trojans or backdoors etc. personally the web based irc chat gateway is good enough to get started up. and yes you can even type in commands to set up moderators and lock the rooms to be invite only.

once you atleast got it set up as the webchat based you can always then, if popular move the moderators over into using proper IRC software. but for starters i dont think its worth wasting good time or money with software before you know its going to be popular and worth making into a professional 'come-to' location.

so just test it out using a couble webchat chatrooms, see how many enter and how the feel of conversations turn out. atleast gauge the level of moderation and ban hammering you might need to control. and then expand from there.

id say having a general chat area, kind of an anything goes room at the main point is the way to go and then once inside people can be elevated if they come up with good idea's that people want to talk more about


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: franky1 on December 01, 2014, 01:57:16 AM
I don't think it would be possible to have a newbie jail in an IRC channel. The only way to get out of newbie jail would have to be by viewing the IRC channel for long enough, but this oculd easily be faked with bots who would eventually put whatever spam in the channel.

dont think of it as a newbie jail. think of it as a general chat room.. and then when someone shouts that they have a good idea with a good explanation. they can then move into another room to discuss it with less general public screaming. allowing those in the chatroom to concentrate on proper topic discussions and boot out anyone interfering with the flow of idea's

here is a brilliant idea..

i have already opened
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideanoob

so if you wish to talk at a more rapid rate compared to this forum about setting up a chat.. use that room i just linked to and then go from there, make your own up.

i leave my computer on all day so the room should have someone in there all the time


Title: Re: Thinking of setting up an irc to discuss ideas...
Post by: wunkbone on December 01, 2014, 07:18:03 AM
I don't think it would be possible to have a newbie jail in an IRC channel. The only way to get out of newbie jail would have to be by viewing the IRC channel for long enough, but this oculd easily be faked with bots who would eventually put whatever spam in the channel.

dont think of it as a newbie jail. think of it as a general chat room.. and then when someone shouts that they have a good idea with a good explanation. they can then move into another room to discuss it with less general public screaming. allowing those in the chatroom to concentrate on proper topic discussions and boot out anyone interfering with the flow of idea's

here is a brilliant idea..

i have already opened
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cryptoideanoob

so if you wish to talk at a more rapid rate compared to this forum about setting up a chat.. use that room i just linked to and then go from there, make your own up.

i leave my computer on all day so the room should have someone in there all the time
Ya I guess having a separate room when newbies can discuss their newbieness and then a main chatroom that you can only post in (but everyone can view) once you are no longer a newbie would work. I would think that once it reached a large scale, promoting someone to no longer being a newbie would need to be somewhat automated which would still allow it to be manipulated somewhat.