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Title: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 05, 2014, 09:43:11 PM
Hi everone. Well one of my bitcoin wallets, the one with the most in 10+Btc, I forgot the Encryption password (Passkey).
Are they any BruitForce programs out there?
I've tried pywallet.py although haven't succeed.
Anyone who manages to help me retrieve it can have 2BTC!


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: btchris on December 05, 2014, 09:57:26 PM
Hi everone. Well one of my bitcoin wallets, the one with the most in 10+Btc, I forgot the Encryption password (Passkey).
Are they any BruitForce programs out there?
I've tried pywallet.py although haven't succeed.
Anyone who manages to help me retrieve it can have 2BTC!

There are some options available that may help.

This thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85495.0) has a lot of good info in it, you may want to take a look.

btcrecover (http://btcrecover) is a tool that can help you recover your password, if you remember enough about it. The Quick Start is here (https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md). It's not necessarily the easiest to get configured and running, but it is free and open source (FYI I'm biased... I'm the author of that tool, let me know if you have any questions about it).

There are also a few individuals in the Services section that are willing to help for a fee, you may want to search over there too (and also search around for their reputations; there are some with some good past history).


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 05, 2014, 11:11:38 PM
Hmm, I have the encrypted Primary Secret Key. Is there anyway to decrypt that? I heard it was Base64 but had no luck


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: b1acksn0w on December 06, 2014, 12:21:37 AM
I would be glad to assist you, will need to ask for more details though


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 01:05:48 AM
Well, I have

   "ckey": [],
    "defaultkey": "",
    "keys": [
        {
            "addr": "",
            "compressed": true,
            "encrypted_privkey": "",
            "pubkey": "",
            "reserve": 1
        },
        {


All the keys (Yes I removed them for protection)
And I some how need to decrypt it. Or if anyone can decrypt my actual wallet.dat to remove the passphrase I can give them 2Btc!


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: b!z on December 06, 2014, 05:51:59 AM
There are a few people who have posted threads in the Service section. I believe they can help you to decrypt the key without having access to your coins (but I may be mistaken).

Search around.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: kishan889 on December 06, 2014, 08:30:10 AM
Hi everone. Well one of my bitcoin wallets, the one with the most in 10+Btc, I forgot the Encryption password (Passkey).
Are they any BruitForce programs out there?
I've tried pywallet.py although haven't succeed.
Anyone who manages to help me retrieve it can have 2BTC!

WT Bad luck
this amount might have changed my life

By the way.. Gud luck. Try to write the pass keys in a separate dairy and keep it on a safe place
Actually the amount is verrry big for me


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: alexrossi on December 06, 2014, 09:02:25 AM
Approximately, how many characters is long the password?


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 10:52:40 AM
Yep thats the reason I do not want to lose that amount.

The password is around 30-40 characters with uppercase/lowercase/numbers


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: SpreadBit on December 06, 2014, 10:58:16 AM
Yep thats the reason I do not want to lose that amount.

The password is around 30-40 characters with uppercase/lowercase/numbers

Got skype? I can help you recover it.
PM me your skype.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: antonpans on December 06, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
30-40 letters...i would be borred to use such a big password to be honest. I think all advices been posted already. Just watchout who you work with. Im sure the chances to recover it are below 0.01% but good luck


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: yenzae0215 on December 06, 2014, 11:41:15 AM
30-40 characters password gives you a big problem.. if you're at home better to use about 10 characters next time  :-\

sorry for your lost hope you can get it back


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 12:14:14 PM
Anyone who would like to help, and can manage to unlock it will be given 3BTC
skype is: casper.round


Many thanks!


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: SpreadBit on December 06, 2014, 01:59:31 PM
Anyone who would like to help, and can manage to unlock it will be given 3BTC
skype is: casper.round


Many thanks!
Sorry mate, I got my fucking skype crashed.
Fixing it. Will be in contact with you within 15 minutes.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: alexrossi on December 06, 2014, 02:00:48 PM
Yep thats the reason I do not want to lose that amount.

The password is around 30-40 characters with uppercase/lowercase/numbers



Sorry, this wallet is NSA-proof for at least the next 50 years...


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Sarahiko on December 06, 2014, 02:06:32 PM
It can be brute force if you know some of the key pass or some miss type letters, but if you don`t remember any of it then say goodbye to your coins. Good Luck, just be careful when dealing with someone.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 02:31:40 PM
Does anyone know any bruteforce programs for the wallet.dat, that can use a GPU?


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: guitarplinker on December 06, 2014, 02:44:04 PM
Does anyone know any bruteforce programs for the wallet.dat, that can use a GPU?
I believe Wallet Recovery Services (http://www.walletrecoveryservices.com/) uses a GPU bruteforcing program. You could try asking to see if Dave (the owner) would be willing to send you the program. I have a suspicion he wouldn't want to send it over though, because it's custom coded for him.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: carlosiness on December 06, 2014, 02:44:31 PM
brutaforce method could take many many years, depends on the password complexity.
i don't know any programs, i think it should be written special for your purpose...


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 02:53:10 PM
I've messaged Dave via the service and said I would happily pay him, no reply yet.
I had a thought, if I export the dat as a .txt, then change the encrypted private key to a new one that I know, then export to a .dat
Would that work? Like overwriting the original encrypted private key?


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: guitarplinker on December 06, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
I've messaged Dave via the service and said I would happily pay him, no reply yet.
I had a thought, if I export the dat as a .txt, then change the encrypted private key to a new one that I know, then export to a .dat
Would that work? Like overwriting the original encrypted private key?
That wouldn't work. If you changed the encrypted private key to a new private key with a new password, you would lose access to your old encrypted private key holding the 10BTC worth.

One thing you can do though if you can't figure out the password is keep the wallet.dat file safely backed up for a long time - I'm sure that in 10 or 15 years it'll be much easier to crack a 30-40 character password than it is now with faster computing, plus there's always a chance that the encryption algorithm for Bitcoin-Qt will be cracked. That'll definitely be a long time from now, but it might be worth it.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: redsn0w on December 06, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
I've messaged Dave via the service and said I would happily pay him, no reply yet.
I had a thought, if I export the dat as a .txt, then change the encrypted private key to a new one that I know, then export to a .dat
Would that work? Like overwriting the original encrypted private key?
That wouldn't work. If you changed the encrypted private key to a new private key with a new password, you would lose access to your old encrypted private key holding the 10BTC worth.

One thing you can do though if you can't figure out the password is keep the wallet.dat file safely backed up - I'm sure that in 10 or 15 years it'll be much easier to crack a 30-40 character password than it is now. That'll definitely be a long time from now, but it might be worth it.

Yeah , I think this is the unique solution for the moment. With the technology of the future maybe you can easily crack the password (but I'm not sure).


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: CryptKeeper on December 06, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
I've messaged Dave via the service and said I would happily pay him, no reply yet.
I had a thought, if I export the dat as a .txt, then change the encrypted private key to a new one that I know, then export to a .dat
Would that work? Like overwriting the original encrypted private key?
That wouldn't work. If you changed the encrypted private key to a new private key with a new password, you would lose access to your old encrypted private key holding the 10BTC worth.

One thing you can do though if you can't figure out the password is keep the wallet.dat file safely backed up - I'm sure that in 10 or 15 years it'll be much easier to crack a 30-40 character password than it is now. That'll definitely be a long time from now, but it might be worth it.

Yeah , I think this is the unique solution for the moment. With the technology of the future maybe you can easily crack the password (but I'm not sure).

The bitcoin-qt uses key stretching for the encryption of the wallet.dat. Somewhere in the wallet.dat is an entry about the number of rounds that are needed for decryption of the private keys. Depending of the speed of the pc which encrypted the wallet.dat it can be 100000 or more rounds of AES256. It's done in this way so that even passwords of short length are very hard to break by brute force!

TL;DR
If you have one or two typos in your password, it could be possible to brute force it. But 30-40 characters are not crackable for a very long time.  :(


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 03:38:15 PM
Well this seams like a dead loss.
Has anyone tried the change passphrase option on Pywallet?


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: CIYAM on December 06, 2014, 03:41:05 PM
Well this seams like a dead loss.

Are you seriously saying you think that your wallet is encrypted with a 30-40 character password of which you can't remember any of it?

(because if that is what you are saying then I would be seriously doubting that it actually is your wallet at all)


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: guitarplinker on December 06, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
Well this seams like a dead loss.

Are you seriously saying you think that your wallet is encrypted with a 30-40 character password of which you can't remember any of it?

(because if that is what you are saying then I would be seriously doubting that it actually is your wallet at all)

He could have generated a password in KeePass or similar, and then forget to save KeePass once he had the password generated, losing access to the wallet. I use KeePass and I know a couple of times I've almost shut off my machine without saving my new KeePass entries.



Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 03:46:44 PM
Well this seams like a dead loss.

Are you seriously saying you think that your wallet is encrypted with a 30-40 character password of which you can't remember any of it?

(because if that is what you are saying then I would be seriously doubting that it actually is your wallet at all)



Reason it's my wallet, I use a 30-40 character password for most of my bitcoin accounts, with upper case, lower case, and numbers to stop people from taking from me. As I have already have an incident where someone stole 1.2Btc from my Blockchain wallet!


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: CIYAM on December 06, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
He could have generated a password in KeePass or similar, and then forget to save KeePass once he had the password generated, losing access to the wallet. I use KeePass and I know a couple of times I've almost shut off my machine without saving my new KeePass entries.

Indeed - now that you have given him an explanation I'm sure he'll use it (I was actually trying to see if he would come up with such an explanation himself).

Doh!

(maybe next time you might consider waiting before feeding people answers)


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: casperround on December 06, 2014, 03:53:03 PM
He could have generated a password in KeePass or similar, and then forget to save KeePass once he had the password generated, losing access to the wallet. I use KeePass and I know a couple of times I've almost shut off my machine without saving my new KeePass entries.

Indeed - now that you have given him an explanation I'm sure he'll use it (I was actually trying to see if he would come up with such an explanation himself).

Doh!

(maybe next time you might consider waiting before feeding people answers)


I actually wrote that before, although the forum said (While you where writing a reply, a member has commented. You may want to read that before posting a new reply)

So in future maybe you shouldn't be so ignorant!


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: CIYAM on December 06, 2014, 03:56:40 PM
So in future maybe you shouldn't be so ignorant!

If I missed that you explained you were using Keepass then it seems so did a few others (although I notice something in the OP now which I don't recall seeing before).

Very strange that you would say you "forgot" your 30-40 character password anyway - if you were using a tool then you would never have "remembered" such a password in the first place. :)

There have been a few newbies before wanting to work out how to crack encrypted wallets that looked rather suspicious (hence my question).

In any case as has been pointed out 30-40 unknown characters is not going to be able to be cracked.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: btchris on December 06, 2014, 06:14:52 PM
Does anyone know any bruteforce programs for the wallet.dat, that can use a GPU?

btcrecover (http://btcrecover), which I mentioned above, does support GPU-accelerated password searches for wallet.dat files (or for dumpwallet.py files like you also partially posted above).

It's still pretty unclear (to me anyways) if this is a password you remember most of, or if it's a KeePass or similar password which you don't have any of. If it's the latter, and if it's a complex as you've stated, than there's absolutely zero chance you'll ever be able to recover it without recovering it from KeePass. :(

Here's a link to the time it would take to brute-force a random 30-character long password (upper + lower + digits) using 4 high-end GPUs (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%2826%2B26%2B10%29%5E30+%2F+%2810%2C000+%2F+second%29).


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Sellers on December 12, 2014, 03:11:45 AM
30-40 characters password is long


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: SpreadBit on December 12, 2014, 03:42:01 AM
Your wallets final balance is 0 BTC.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Haruko on December 12, 2014, 01:39:26 PM
Your wallets final balance is 0 BTC.

just to let you understand...

try to browse this site

http://projects.lambry.com/elpassword/

and you will understand who you wallet it is uncrackable!!!

https://i.imgur.com/wn4r81i.png


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Hash72 on December 12, 2014, 09:14:40 PM
Your wallets final balance is 0 BTC.

just to let you understand...

try to browse this site

http://projects.lambry.com/elpassword/

and you will understand who you wallet it is uncrackable!!!

https://i.imgur.com/wn4r81i.png
Good advise but more security need you to have more than one recovery options specially for this amount of BTC good luck


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: redsn0w on December 13, 2014, 06:55:57 AM
#OP , I think it will be impossible for you to recover your bitcoin , I'm sorry for that and I suggest you the next time to use another *system of security* .


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: syahrere on December 13, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
omg 20btc  :-[
next time u must care with security for ur BTC wallet  :)


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: SpreadBit on December 13, 2014, 08:19:49 AM
Wallet doesn't have any amount.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Anillos2 on December 13, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Yep thats the reason I do not want to lose that amount.

The password is around 30-40 characters with uppercase/lowercase/numbers

Next time write it in paper... :(


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Welsh on December 13, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
Unless you know the majority of your password no one will be likely to help you, 30 characters of unknown characters is a huge amount for a program to brute force. The amount of the users who come to me only know about a quarter to half of their password and that's normally not enough.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on December 13, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Your wallets final balance is 0 BTC.

just to let you understand...

try to browse this site

http://projects.lambry.com/elpassword/

and you will understand who you wallet it is uncrackable!!!

https://i.imgur.com/wn4r81i.png

Don't worry. NSA will be able to crack it in a few milliseconds. Just forward it to them ;)


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Haruko on December 13, 2014, 03:11:21 PM
Your wallets final balance is 0 BTC.

just to let you understand...

try to browse this site

http://projects.lambry.com/elpassword/

and you will understand who you wallet it is uncrackable!!!

https://i.imgur.com/wn4r81i.png

Don't worry. NSA will be able to crack it in a few milliseconds. Just forward it to them ;)

hum.. miliseconds?????

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

i do not think so!!!

math is math!!!
and numbers are numbers!!!

and that's all!!!

and NSA can't do nothing!!!


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: josef2000 on December 13, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
If it was so easy you could steal other btc accounts too...


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Haruko on December 13, 2014, 11:35:35 PM
If it was so easy you could steal other btc accounts too...

I agree with josef...

if it is so easy, tell us how many wallet do you have you empted!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: twicezeroiszero on December 14, 2014, 06:31:37 AM
30 - 40 Character password who would waste their time cracking your wallet. It will cost 1000 x more btc just for electricity  ???


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on December 14, 2014, 12:19:54 PM

hum.. miliseconds?????

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

i do not think so!!!

math is math!!!
and numbers are numbers!!!

and that's all!!!

and NSA can't do nothing!!!

You greatly underestimate the capability of NSA. Of course I am assuming they will put all of their computing power into it.  ;)

(Am a little speculative, though  ;D )

P.S. Do not interpret texts containing winking smileys as serious ones.


Title: Re: Wallet Encryption Password Lost - 10 BTC!
Post by: Haruko on December 15, 2014, 09:37:33 AM

You greatly underestimate the capability of NSA. Of course I am assuming they will put all of their computing power into it.  ;)

(Am a little speculative, though  ;D )


ehehehe... i think i'm not undervaluing NSA power... just i repeat math is math...


P.S. Do not interpret texts containing winking smileys as serious ones.


no prob for me!!!

all ok!!!

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)