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Title: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: Gladamas on June 19, 2012, 05:52:31 PM Forbes: TORwallet, a Bitcoin wallet and mixing service, makes legal recourse against Bitcoin users impractical by anonymizing transactions.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/06/19/torwallet-sparks-trust-without-jurisdiction-debate/ Quote Obviously, the cashless society people do not want [a coin anonymizing service] because full transaction traceability is the unstated motivation behind eliminating cash. Don’t fall into this complacent attitude of a ‘cashless society represents the future’ because if we lose the monetary privacy features that we already have, it is a grim future indeed! Game over. Please discuss. Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: enmaku on June 19, 2012, 06:10:19 PM The terms "cashless society people" and "Bitcoiners" are not equivalent. There are definitely people who want to take society cashless in non-Bitcoin ways and in some circles, traceable (and therefore legally actionable) transactions are considered preferable. I think Forbes is mixing us in with a larger group and failing to grasp that while opinions vary in the larger group, we Bitcoiners tend to be at least a little more homogeneous.
Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: rjk on June 19, 2012, 06:11:41 PM The terms "cashless society people" and "Bitcoiners" are not equivalent. There are definitely people who want to take society cashless in non-Bitcoin ways and in some circles, traceable (and therefore legally actionable) transactions are considered preferable. I think Forbes is mixing us in with a larger group and failing to grasp that while opinions vary in the larger group, we Bitcoiners tend to be at least a little more homogeneous. I don't think Matonis meant bitcoiners at all, the "cashless society people" are more like those that want to use paypal for everything. And I agree that they likely have such ulterior motives.Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: Realpra on June 19, 2012, 06:32:17 PM The terms "cashless society people" and "Bitcoiners" are not equivalent. There are definitely people who want to take society cashless in non-Bitcoin ways and in some circles, traceable (and therefore legally actionable) transactions are considered preferable. I think Forbes is mixing us in with a larger group and failing to grasp that while opinions vary in the larger group, we Bitcoiners tend to be at least a little more homogeneous. Yeah I think that was a BTC supporting comment too. OP just misread (understandable with that sentence).Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: Gladamas on June 19, 2012, 06:33:23 PM Yeah I misinterpreted that sentence.
Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: TORwallet on June 20, 2012, 05:02:18 AM Wow, we made Forbes! Never expected that to happen!
Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: proudhon on June 20, 2012, 05:15:38 AM Wow, we made Forbes! Never expected that to happen! Happens all the time. Matonis frequently posts articles on Forbes online. Last year there was an article in Forbe's print magazine. It was a nice article, IIRC. Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: enmaku on June 20, 2012, 05:19:56 AM Wow, we made Forbes! Never expected that to happen! Happens all the time. Matonis frequently posts articles on Forbes online. Last year there was an article in Forbe's print magazine. It was a nice article, IIRC. Pretty sure he meant "we" as in "torwallet" specifically, not Bitcoin in general ;D But yeah, last year's Bitcoin article in Forbes was pretty nice as I recall. Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: justusranvier on June 20, 2012, 05:26:43 AM Happens all the time. Matonis frequently posts articles on Forbes online. Last year there was an article in Forbe's print magazine. It was a nice article, IIRC. Does he lurk/post here on the forum?Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: hazek on June 20, 2012, 09:57:53 AM Of course he does: matonis (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1986).
Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: proudhon on June 20, 2012, 10:19:53 AM Wow, we made Forbes! Never expected that to happen! Happens all the time. Matonis frequently posts articles on Forbes online. Last year there was an article in Forbe's print magazine. It was a nice article, IIRC. Pretty sure he meant "we" as in "torwallet" specifically, not Bitcoin in general ;D But yeah, last year's Bitcoin article in Forbes was pretty nice as I recall. Derp. I didn't look at his name. Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: Stephen Gornick on September 19, 2012, 07:01:28 PM Please discuss. As a public service message, I wanted to update this thread to note that there are reports that users of this Tor Wallet service are not getting their coins back: - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87387.0 Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: BkkCoins on September 20, 2012, 12:09:13 AM Why was this article brought to the top again after two months? I went to read it and then realized this was old news.
Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: BladeMcCool on September 20, 2012, 01:06:48 AM Why was this article brought to the top again after two months? I went to read it and then realized this was old news. read one post up ... word on the street is that users of this site just got jacked. Title: Re: 2012-06-19 Forbes.com - TORwallet makes legal recourse impractical Post by: BkkCoins on September 20, 2012, 02:32:42 AM Why was this article brought to the top again after two months? I went to read it and then realized this was old news. read one post up ... word on the street is that users of this site just got jacked. Just me being mixed up = BlenderHead. |