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Title: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: bbit on June 19, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
So I was thinking what if in some poor 3 world country there was a way for the village/community to generate bits of bitcoin to redeem - sort of helping establish a "life-line" for the tribe.  Is it not possible to have solar power generate enough power to have a computer mine some bitcoins for them?  ???


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: Flowz on June 19, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76809.msg854205#msg854205

He did some calculations of solar powered miners :)


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: bbit on June 19, 2012, 08:33:46 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76809.msg854205#msg854205

He did some calculations of solar powered miners :)

hmmmmmmmm.........thanks for this  ;D


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: brunozisterer on June 19, 2012, 09:19:10 PM
Solarpower is not the problem, the problem is the internet connection.


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: bbit on June 19, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
Solarpower is not the problem, the problem is the internet connection.

Will I'm assuming if you have any power the internet will follow but yes you are correct.


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: malaimult on June 20, 2012, 12:23:26 AM
you don't get it right guys. don't get it right.
not about the sun, or internet connection, its about the people who live there.
do you really think they will even know how to open the pc if they are from a "3 world country" living in a "tribe" LOL

even if the start button will be on a cow's ass they don't know how to operate the OS


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: Valalvax on June 20, 2012, 01:09:35 AM
Actually... even in third world countries they have computers and cell phones... and even electricity...


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: AmpEater on June 20, 2012, 02:48:51 AM
Short answer, yes.

Long answer, malaimult is a dick.


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: teflone on June 20, 2012, 02:56:03 AM
Short answer, yes.

Long answer, malaimult is a dick.

lmao...  :D


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on June 20, 2012, 03:56:49 AM
Actually... even in third world countries they have computers and cell phones... and even electricity...

Next you're going to tell me they have verbal communication and no longer chisel in cave walls...


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: Graet on June 20, 2012, 06:40:00 AM
So I was thinking what if in some poor 3 world country there was a way for the village/community to generate bits of bitcoin to redeem - sort of helping establish a "life-line" for the tribe.  Is it not possible to have solar power generate enough power to have a computer mine some bitcoins for them?  ???
um "a computer to mine" will not produce a lot of Bitcoins, less as difficulty rises and other mining solutions are deployed.

As for "Free solar power" a lot of people forget to include the cost of the solar infrastructure and batteries to store energy for use overnight.
I mean you cant just sit a computer on the sun and have it hash Bitcoins ;)

Solar is neither as green or as free as some people imagine :shrug:


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: Valalvax on June 20, 2012, 08:19:23 AM
Actually... even in third world countries they have computers and cell phones... and even electricity...

Next you're going to tell me they have verbal communication and no longer chisel in cave walls...

Well...

They have at least upgraded to smearing shit on walls instead of wasting all that time with chisels


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: malaimult on June 20, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
Short answer, yes.

Long answer, malaimult is a dick.


thanks for the compliment  :-*
will book you a flight to nigeria for a bitcoin conference to teach them about mining. luv ya


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: neptop on June 20, 2012, 01:36:19 PM
Hint on third world countries (or development countries, how they are called with political correctness in mind) and computer knowledge. They do have the knowledge.

http://www.freedomtoaster.org/

There even are a number of projects teaching people how to use a computer. Don't you remember OLPC? There have been tons of similar projects, like surf stations and stuff.

About internet connection. One should maybe think a bit different when it comes to such countries. There aren't just fiber cables, but also other means that work way better over long distance, using lasers, infrared, etc. Especially when there is no building in your way. And no, something like a bird flying through or whatever neither roasts it nor makes the connection drop. These are technologies basically made for this.

Besides that there are things like satellite connections and stuff. Don't forget, you can just have a local network in some tiny town and one or even multiple ways to go to the next bigger city, a university (and yes, they exist in every country ;)) or whatever and you are done.

I guess a lot of infrastructure there is much more decentralized than ours, because they use stuff. Also, they all know Linux and stuff, so they usually are not absolute beginners.

And once you are in something like a city, you actually can stop caring about not having computer, energy, Internet, whatever. Than it is more like finding a computer store with good hardware, but if you really want to start such a project I am sure you would find a way to do so. Maybe one can donate old graphics card. Old as in, not good enough to make money if you don't have a solar plant.

Also, something you shouldn't forget is that there are not just very efficient, but expensive solar based systems, but there are exists a huge span between what is used in solar power plants over to what you have in your calculator and even stuff that can basically be self made. Oh and don't forget that lots of evil companies send their waste (and if a school, company, university or government replaces their IT one really shouldn't call it waste) drop their stuff their. So you actually have a lot of this high tech waste to use. So, if one would really start something like that like logistically and stuff this idea could actually succeed. Maybe on you even solve a number of problems in the progress.

So I'd say it actually could be worth a shot. Surely, one will have some hurdles, but so far I don't really see a problem that couldn't be solved by some people who want to give it a try.


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: bulanula on June 20, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
you don't get it right guys. don't get it right.
not about the sun, or internet connection, its about the people who live there.
do you really think they will even know how to open the pc if they are from a "3 world country" living in a "tribe" LOL

even if the start button will be on a cow's ass they don't know how to operate the OS

This is me in my hometown in Nigeria : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdU8vol1nw&feature=related

:D

Should be safe for work ( it is Youtube )  ;)


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: malaimult on June 20, 2012, 08:26:12 PM
you have food on your table, water and heat to a button. you can figure it out the rest of the scheme.
i'm not saying they are not capable to work on a pc etc but the life is so hard there that the last thing on theyr mind is to mine for btc


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: stevebc on June 21, 2012, 01:10:40 AM
I'm thinking if a remote community in a developing country is given access (or additional access) to Solar Power, they could probably find more economically productive uses for it than mining Bitcoins!


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: EnergyVampire on June 21, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
What if..... instead of using solar power in a 3rd World Country (Developing Nation), they daisy chain a bunch of stationary bicycles (Human Power Generator)?


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: Dargo on June 21, 2012, 02:07:30 AM
lol, would love to see the looks on the faces of the "tribe" after you set up the solar power and explained to them that they weren't going to use it for practical stuff like lights or cooking, but instead to mine Bitcoins. They would surely think you were insane, and would probably be right. But how about ASIC miner hotplates (a variant of BFL's coffee warmer)? Cook your meal and mine deh coins tribe-peoples!


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: malaimult on June 21, 2012, 02:21:15 AM
lol, would love to see the looks on the faces of the "tribe" after you set up the solar power and explained to them that they weren't going to use it for practical stuff like lights or cooking, but instead to mine Bitcoins. They would surely think you were insane, and would probably be right. But how about ASIC miner hotplates (a variant of BFL's coffee warmer)? Cook your meal and mine deh coins tribe-peoples!


hihi nice1


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: Raize on July 01, 2012, 06:22:42 AM
I have two Icarus miners running on solar power. Or well, I did for a few days before I had to give back the panel I was using. It's possible!


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: wildemagic on July 05, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
I have a 1.7Kw offgrid solar power setup, where I am its a remote mining town in lightning ridge Australia.

I run 4x icarus and a 5850 from my array.

Its not a cheap option, but it works, the array cost about 6-7K but I needed it for power in the first place, so now I just 'sell' my excess power through bitcoin mining.

You couldnt run a GPU farm economically but fpgas work fine.  I get 1.5GH/sec @ 100w from the fpgas and 350MH/sec @ 100w from the GPU.

I also have wireless internet, so im not connected to any form of power or land line internet.

kind regards


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: bulanula on July 05, 2012, 06:31:07 PM
I have a 1.7Kw offgrid solar power setup, where I am its a remote mining town in lightning ridge Australia.

I run 4x icarus and a 5850 from my array.

Its not a cheap option, but it works, the array cost about 6-7K but I needed it for power in the first place, so now I just 'sell' my excess power through bitcoin mining.

You couldnt run a GPU farm economically but fpgas work fine.  I get 1.5GH/sec @ 100w from the fpgas and 350MH/sec @ 100w from the GPU.

I also have wireless internet, so im not connected to any form of power or land line internet.

kind regards

Wireless as in HSDPA or as in 802.11 ?

How is that working out for you ? Much downtime ?

Traffic limits / usage ? Packetloss ?


Title: Re: So can Bitcoins being mined via Solar Power?
Post by: wildemagic on July 05, 2012, 07:04:12 PM
Wireless as in HSDPA or as in 802.11 ?

How is that working out for you ? Much downtime ?

Traffic limits / usage ? Packetloss ?

HSDPA - yes

Downtime - couple of times a year at most

Traffic limits - no im on unlimited 3G

Packetloss - none

kind regards