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Title: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

All of the coins were moved, one chunk of 100,000 and one of 44341.

TO DA MOON!!!


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
Only 2 confirmations.

I suspect they will be splitting the 100k address into two, in preparation for the next auction.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: RodeoX on December 08, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: kwukduck on December 08, 2014, 04:04:57 PM
I can confirm this. The hack has been claimed by a very advanced small hacker community from India. Let's see what they will do with it.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: phoenix1 on December 08, 2014, 04:06:37 PM
I can confirm this. The hack has been claimed by a very advanced small hacker community from India. Let's see what they will do with it.

 :D

LOL  ... FBI coins stolen ... I would quite possibly die laughing!



Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: RodeoX on December 08, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?

And what's this BS about a hack?


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: RodeoX on December 08, 2014, 04:12:56 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.
Fair enough. I know Draper overpaid last time and did not win them all this times. Maybe other bidders bid high this time?


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: phoenix1 on December 08, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.
Fair enough. I know Draper overpaid last time and did not win them all this times. Maybe other bidders bid high this time?

Just to point out, AFAIK we have zero confirmation that they sold above market price last time. Only speculation ...


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.
Fair enough. I know Draper overpaid last time and did not win them all this times. Maybe other bidders bid high this time?

Just to point out, AFAIK we have zero confirmation that they sold above market price last time. Only speculation ...

We have other people who said they bid at or above market value and did not win.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: phoenix1 on December 08, 2014, 04:22:40 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.
Fair enough. I know Draper overpaid last time and did not win them all this times. Maybe other bidders bid high this time?

Just to point out, AFAIK we have zero confirmation that they sold above market price last time. Only speculation ...

We have other people who said they bid at or above market value and did not win.

Source? I never read that anywhere

Not trying to be a dick, I just have not seen anything other than people's guesses. AFAIK nobody else admitted to bidding over market either.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:25:36 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.
Fair enough. I know Draper overpaid last time and did not win them all this times. Maybe other bidders bid high this time?

Just to point out, AFAIK we have zero confirmation that they sold above market price last time. Only speculation ...

We have other people who said they bid at or above market value and did not win.

Source? I never read that anywhere

Good question, the chatter was on here so I have no idea how to find a specific link. Apparently it was talk on IRC. I don't go on IRC.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: phoenix1 on December 08, 2014, 04:28:15 PM

Good question, the chatter was on here so I have no idea how to find a specific link. Apparently it was talk on IRC. I don't go on IRC.

Thanks ... that's what I thought. It seems to be  'chatter' that has pretty much morphed into 'accepted belief'


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:36:36 PM

Good question, the chatter was on here so I have no idea how to find a specific link. Apparently it was talk on IRC. I don't go on IRC.

Thanks ... that's what I thought. It seems to be  'chatter' that has pretty much morphed into 'accepted belief'

Chatter is always true when it is on the Speculation forum.

I also heard that the coins went for $10k each during this auction. From IRC.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
The 100k block was split up into smaller blocks of 5k each with one 52k

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e696b24eb87e58c546156ead075055c3c27a8a6b2637f19941d58cb7349eb88d


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: NotLambchop on December 08, 2014, 04:53:27 PM
...
We have other people who said they bid at or above market value and did not win.

Who?  Link?

Edit: Nvrmnd.  A friend of your uncle's then.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: phoenix1 on December 08, 2014, 05:10:06 PM

Good question, the chatter was on here so I have no idea how to find a specific link. Apparently it was talk on IRC. I don't go on IRC.

Thanks ... that's what I thought. It seems to be  'chatter' that has pretty much morphed into 'accepted belief'

Chatter is always true when it is on the Speculation forum.

I also heard that the coins went for $10k each during this auction. From IRC.

Hahaha!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc)

Yeh, that 52k is wierd .. the rest seems to imply multiple winners for the 2 and 3k lots, with tx fees deducted
But the 52k is over ... odd ... confused. I have suggested that maybe Timmy Boy bid them for an extra 50k over the w/e. But even then it should show as 52k minus a tx fee



Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on December 08, 2014, 06:14:47 PM
"Huge quantity of coins being moved:  Bullish!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByTHUd-CEAAhmWr.jpg


 ;D


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: ElectricMucus on December 08, 2014, 07:04:10 PM
Elwar,

http://t.qkme.me/3lcd.jpg


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Bobsurplus on December 08, 2014, 07:07:38 PM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

Because of market analysis.
I would think that putting a large number of coins for sale would move the price down?


Unless they were purchased above market price like last time. Which sent the price up about $50-$100 soon after.
Fair enough. I know Draper overpaid last time and did not win them all this times. Maybe other bidders bid high this time?

Just to point out, AFAIK we have zero confirmation that they sold above market price last time. Only speculation ...

We have other people who said they bid at or above market value and did not win.

Source? I never read that anywhere

Not trying to be a dick, I just have not seen anything other than people's guesses. AFAIK nobody else admitted to bidding over market either.

You never read it because no one ever said it.



Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: podyx on December 08, 2014, 07:08:50 PM

Chatter is always true when it is on the Speculation forum.

I also heard that the coins went for $10k each during this auction. From IRC.

http://assets.gearlive.com/filmcrunch/blogimages/nocountry_tommyleejones_lawsuit.jpg


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Elwar on December 08, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
Ya, I figured since there's really nothing that can be read from the coins moving it would be more fun if the conclusion was TO DA MOON!!!

And the price has been waaaaayyyy too boring this week.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: NotLambchop on December 08, 2014, 07:50:36 PM
...And the price has been waaaaayyyy too boring this week.

Dunno.  Moved a bit today, still moving a little it seems...


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: abyrnes81 on December 08, 2014, 07:56:39 PM
1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

All of the coins were moved, one chunk of 100,000 and one of 44341.

TO DA MOON!!!

Woow amazing , really amazing!   100'000 bitcoin  moved , here an address with 50'000 bitcoin : https://blockchain.info/it/address/12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix .


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: solitude on December 08, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
Pigs can't into technology.  Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the bitcoins. 


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: canary on December 08, 2014, 09:12:39 PM
Nothing important here, they just wanna be ready for next auctions that's all...


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: abyrnes81 on December 08, 2014, 09:16:18 PM
Pigs can't into technology.  Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the bitcoins. 

I really hope they will lose all the private keys , it would be exceptional. However I don't like these type of person, if you own bitcoin you *must* know the technology under it.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: solitude on December 08, 2014, 09:22:06 PM
1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

All of the coins were moved, one chunk of 100,000 and one of 44341.

TO DA MOON!!!

https://i.imgur.com/xzarr.jpg


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: NotLambchop on December 08, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
Pigs can't into technology.  Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the bitcoins. 

Pigs into technology enough to pwn this guy & his coinz :-\


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: newflesh on December 08, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Pigs can't into technology.  Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the bitcoins. 

I really hope they will lose all the private keys , it would be exceptional. However I don't like these type of person, if you own bitcoin you *must* know the technology under it.

It would be hilarious if they did lose the bitcoin........ even better if they were sent to my btc address :)


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: notme on December 08, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
Pigs can't into technology.  Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the bitcoins. 

I really hope they will lose all the private keys , it would be exceptional. However I don't like these type of person, if you own bitcoin you *must* know the technology under it.

It would be hilarious if they did lose the bitcoin........ even better if they were sent to my btc address :)

Right up until they accuse you of stealing them, seize all your electronics and throw your ass in jail :P.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: pattu1 on December 09, 2014, 05:51:32 AM
Pigs can't into technology.  Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the bitcoins. 

I really hope they will lose all the private keys , it would be exceptional. However I don't like these type of person, if you own bitcoin you *must* know the technology under it.

It would be hilarious if they did lose the bitcoin........ even better if they were sent to my btc address :)

Wouldn't put it past them.
After all, they used cc instead of bcc while mailing all the participants in the first auction


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: piramida on December 09, 2014, 08:29:58 AM
1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

All of the coins were moved, one chunk of 100,000 and one of 44341.

TO DA MOON!!!

Woow amazing , really amazing!   100'000 bitcoin  moved , here an address with 50'000 bitcoin : https://blockchain.info/it/address/12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix .

In all of this, let's not forget that this is probably the first time in human history when mere peons can observe each and every move of government's millions. And not just "results audited by someone considered trustworthy", but unfalsifiable transaction records.

Pretty soon you will be able to see exactly where donations to charity or political campaign or your local "save debby" fund have gone. This is what's really amazing in all of this.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: erre on December 09, 2014, 08:34:40 AM
Price is moving in the wrong direction ...


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: erre on December 09, 2014, 08:36:04 AM
1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

All of the coins were moved, one chunk of 100,000 and one of 44341.

TO DA MOON!!!

Woow amazing , really amazing!   100'000 bitcoin  moved , here an address with 50'000 bitcoin : https://blockchain.info/it/address/12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix .

In all of this, let's not forget that this is probably the first time in human history when mere peons can observe each and every move of government's millions. And not just "results audited by someone considered trustworthy", but unfalsifiable transaction records.

Pretty soon you will be able to see exactly where donations to charity or political campaign or your local "save debby" fund have gone. This is what's really amazing in all of this.

This is funny for a payment method borned to promote anonimate


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: piramida on December 09, 2014, 08:47:52 AM
1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

All of the coins were moved, one chunk of 100,000 and one of 44341.

TO DA MOON!!!

Woow amazing , really amazing!   100'000 bitcoin  moved , here an address with 50'000 bitcoin : https://blockchain.info/it/address/12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix .

In all of this, let's not forget that this is probably the first time in human history when mere peons can observe each and every move of government's millions. And not just "results audited by someone considered trustworthy", but unfalsifiable transaction records.

Pretty soon you will be able to see exactly where donations to charity or political campaign or your local "save debby" fund have gone. This is what's really amazing in all of this.

This is funny for a payment method borned to promote anonimate

That's the beauty of it - you chose the desired level of anonymity. Full transparency for those who link their keys to their identity.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: MatTheCat on December 09, 2014, 10:42:15 AM
Why would that move us to the moon? I not get it.  ???

He was being 'ironic', obviously!

......Wasn't he  ???


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: cshelswell on December 09, 2014, 11:10:48 AM
I love how so many posts here say something along the line of "bitcoin to the moon" if you haven't noticed it's been bitcoin to the shite for sometime. Posting positives aren't going to help either, bitcoin simply isn't worth that much. I still hold a reasonable amount and I'm just going to hold out but am I going to get excited about another guy (suspect kid that's invested their $50 allowance in btc) suggesting bitcoin's going to the moon?

I suspect there'll be some down price for a while and I think that initial bubble last year as people learnt about the "new" currency bitcoin and it rocketed to $1000/ btc, it's going to take a while and "to the moon", unlikely




Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: abyrnes81 on December 09, 2014, 12:25:41 PM
I love how so many posts here say something along the line of "bitcoin to the moon" if you haven't noticed it's been bitcoin to the shite for sometime. Posting positives aren't going to help either, bitcoin simply isn't worth that much. I still hold a reasonable amount and I'm just going to hold out but am I going to get excited about another guy (suspect kid that's invested their $50 allowance in btc) suggesting bitcoin's going to the moon?

I suspect there'll be some down price for a while and I think that initial bubble last year as people learnt about the "new" currency bitcoin and it rocketed to $1000/ btc, it's going to take a while and "to the moon", unlikely




Great work , I'm still holding some hundred (maybe thousand) of bitcoin from the "old" 2011 , and I'm happy for my choice !  If for you the bitcoin doesn't worth much , simple : sold it.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: fewcoins on December 09, 2014, 11:15:05 PM
I love how so many posts here say something along the line of "bitcoin to the moon" if you haven't noticed it's been bitcoin to the shite for sometime. Posting positives aren't going to help either, bitcoin simply isn't worth that much. I still hold a reasonable amount and I'm just going to hold out but am I going to get excited about another guy (suspect kid that's invested their $50 allowance in btc) suggesting bitcoin's going to the moon?

I suspect there'll be some down price for a while and I think that initial bubble last year as people learnt about the "new" currency bitcoin and it rocketed to $1000/ btc, it's going to take a while and "to the moon", unlikely




Great work , I'm still holding some hundred (maybe thousand) of bitcoin from the "old" 2011 , and I'm happy for my choice !  If for you the bitcoin doesn't worth much , simple : sold it.

Many people have and will continue to sell. No need to come on here acting like a early adopter from 2011...  :'(


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: fairglu on December 10, 2014, 11:12:50 PM
In all of this, let's not forget that this is probably the first time in human history when mere peons can observe each and every move of government's millions. And not just "results audited by someone considered trustworthy", but unfalsifiable transaction records.

Pretty soon you will be able to see exactly where donations to charity or political campaign or your local "save debby" fund have gone. This is what's really amazing in all of this.

I suspect this will be the reason why "powers that be" will ultimately want cryptos shutdown: the openness.

Illegal uses of cryptos is just a scarecrow, long term, no matter how complex it may seem now, most of the illegal transactions will be unraveled. The ledger is public and "eternal", all that can be found will be found eventually... unlike for traditional fiat.


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: DonQuijote on December 10, 2014, 11:30:38 PM
How we can see the number of buyers?
https://blockchain.info/address/1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw
2 buyers only?


Title: Re: FBI coins moved. Conclusion: TO DA MOON!!!
Post by: Wilhelm on December 11, 2014, 12:34:32 AM
In all of this, let's not forget that this is probably the first time in human history when mere peons can observe each and every move of government's millions. And not just "results audited by someone considered trustworthy", but unfalsifiable transaction records.

Pretty soon you will be able to see exactly where donations to charity or political campaign or your local "save debby" fund have gone. This is what's really amazing in all of this.

I suspect this will be the reason why "powers that be" will ultimately want cryptos shutdown: the openness.

Illegal uses of cryptos is just a scarecrow, long term, no matter how complex it may seem now, most of the illegal transactions will be unraveled. The ledger is public and "eternal", all that can be found will be found eventually... unlike for traditional fiat.

The ledger cannot be used to catch people through illegal transactions.

Let's say I buy bitcoin from local bitcoins, are you responsible for it's origin?
That would be the same as getting caught with a hundred dollar bill that was once used in a cocaine deal.