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Title: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: princesocapuyo on December 10, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: ElmerLin on December 10, 2014, 11:33:57 PM
I think you should first think about whether you are an investor, or a day-trader. Often people mix these up. Most people who 'invest' in altcoins expect some short term gain. Often get frustrated when they don't buy and realise profit straight away. Focus more on the long term if you really want to invest. Look at the coins established infrastructure and team. With so many alt-coins out there it is very difficult to tell the difference between a legitimate coin and just another scam.



Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: Ricke on December 11, 2014, 12:30:56 AM
Rule:
An altcoin is better than bitcoin ≠ becoming more accepted than bitcoin

See:
Network effect

Solution:
Stick to bitcoin until you have some breaking proof that another coin gets dominant


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: Muuurrrrica! on December 11, 2014, 04:29:31 AM
reading fundamentals of a coin correctly is a thing that needs to be learned - the better you understand the tech aswell as actually what the idea of money is the higher you successrate.
Looking at the fundamentals is what investors do. They are patient normally.

Daytraders do not care a lot about fundamentals. They can trade without that often times mainly based on TA.


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: devphp on December 11, 2014, 07:29:55 AM
You shouldn't invest into altcoins.

Now, crypto 2.0 technologies is a different matter.

Altcoin is just a coin like Bitcoin; crypto 2.0 are platforms to leverage decentralization with many use cases.


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: b-trading on December 11, 2014, 08:03:11 AM
i invest in captcoin and doing buy every i have a chance and never sell it keep buying and keep staking for captcoin i believe this coin has a good future


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 11, 2014, 08:13:26 AM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Did you know 4 years ago how good Bitcoin actually is and how big will become?
No.
That's the same with the altcoins. Some are only clones, some have wonderful features. Some have good advertising, some not. Some have a good and healthy community behind them, some not.
Some will get big, some not.
To find which will get big and how big... you may need a crystal ball...

Obviously everybody will tell you that the currency they make or they own is better. It's something between advertising and psychology.
There are so many altcoins you cannot just check them all.
So... just pick one of the active altcoins, hang with the community, learn the internals, see how active the devs are... may take you months. As soon as you find a flaw or something you don't like, drop and move on.
In a year or so you will have 2-3 altcoins you'll love.

I don't know a better way for this.


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: Chase on December 11, 2014, 06:27:34 PM
I think you should first think about whether you are an investor, or a day-trader. Often people mix these up. Most people who 'invest' in altcoins expect some short term gain. Often get frustrated when they don't buy and realise profit straight away. Focus more on the long term if you really want to invest. Look at the coins established infrastructure and team. With so many alt-coins out there it is very difficult to tell the difference between a legitimate coin and just another scam.



I agree 100%.  Day trading is not investing, and new coin launches fall under the gambling category.  80% of coins launched are gone within the first 30 days.  If you want to invest in altcoins, you are going to have to do your own research, because everybody will promote their own coin as the best.  

Crypto is risky, so my advice would be:

1. Determine a $ amount that you won't lose sleep over, to put into crypto.  
2. Give up a daily Starbucks latte for a month (or something else you waste money on - we're all guilty of something ;)), and you have over $100.  
3. Use that $ amount to buy some Bitcoin.  
4. Go to http://coinmarketcap.com/ and check the currencies.
5. Look at the 180 and 365 day charts - I want to know they can make it at least make it 6 months.
6. Check out the top 50 (yes, I know it's a lot of work).
7. Look for ones that have an overall up-trend.  This is crypto, there will be lots of ups and downs, but the overall trend should be positive.  The ones to stay away from, at least until  they can prove themselves over the next year, are the ones that resemble Mount Everest or a roller coaster.
8. Make a list of these, and then go to their forum thread and do some research:

" Look at the coins established infrastructure and team. "

This is critical.  Every coin is making elaborate claims of the latest features and anonymity.  There are too many coins chasing the anonymous market.  I'm not saying don't invest there, all I'm saying is choose very carefully if you do.  It is going to take a lot more than features, to become a currency on the world stage.  Are they actually doing something to expand their user-base outside of Bitcointalk? Look for currencies that are operating as if they are a business if you are looking to make money over the long term.  I would like to see a real, researchable, name attached to the coin - does this person have a record of taking things to a higher level in business?

Once you have your list narrowed down, diversify your holdings to minimize your risk, should some of them fail.  It should be something like 20 - 40% Bitcoin, 20% Coin A, 20% Coin B, and perhaps 20 -30% in a few others, possibly some with a higher risk level (max. 10%).

Involve yourself in the community, even if it's just asking questions.

Good Luck!





Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: McDowell on December 11, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Well, tell us which coins you prefer and I'm quite sure you get all the answers you need  ;)

In generel I like alt coins with unique features in regard to other coins. It should have something really new and useful.
Secondly the support of coins decides about success or fail.



Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: princesocapuyo on December 12, 2014, 01:06:34 AM
Thanks for your replies guys! I really love all your responses. Special thanks to Chase, your response was most complete and I'll try and follow your steps. Well for favoritism on altcoins it's pretty obvious, everyone likes something that will give high profit on the long run, including me.

I'll keep looking at the altcoins, but until I find one that I completely trust I'll stick to bitcoins and that's it.
Thanks again guys!


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: MicroGuy on December 12, 2014, 01:49:50 AM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Imagine you are asking a merchant if he accepts a certain coin? Which name would draw his interest? Which name would spark his desire? Which name will consumers embrace? Which names give rise to laughter?

"Excuse me sir, do you accept ______Coin?" << Fill in the blank

In the end, it will be consumer consensus that decides the winners and the losers. And consumers are name brand sensitive and brand loyal.


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: Chase on December 12, 2014, 02:19:07 PM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Imagine you are asking a merchant if he accepts a certain coin? Which name would draw his interest? Which name would spark his desire? Which name will consumers embrace? Which names give rise to laughter?

"Excuse me sir, do you accept ______Coin?" << Fill in the blank

In the end, it will be consumer consensus that decides the winners and the losers. And consumers are name brand sensitive and brand loyal.

Good point.  If the master plan doesn't include an intelligent sounding name, then's it's very likely the coin is nothing more than a "look what I can do mom" project.  There have been coins that have changed their names, but I haven't followed any of them so I don't know if the name change had any significance.  People have long memories and "RidiculousCoin" will always be "RidiculousCoin", even after a name change.

p.s.  I apologize to the Ridiculous community, if such a coin exists.  ;D


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: inigthz on December 12, 2014, 02:23:08 PM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Don't wish so much about altcoin price. Buy and sell quickly only if you want.

Market full with whale.  ;D


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: ribbitrewards on December 12, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
by counting the amount of shills the coin has :D


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: gjhiggins on December 13, 2014, 09:48:32 AM
p.s.  I apologize to the Ridiculous community, if such a coin exists.  ;D

It's a reasonable bet that you're safe on that one; here's a full list of every coin name / symbol that we could find a trace of:

https://minkiz.co/coin/name/


Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
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Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: peonminer on December 13, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
You shouldn't invest into altcoins.

Now, crypto 2.0 technologies is a different matter.

Altcoin is just a coin like Bitcoin; crypto 2.0 are platforms to leverage decentralization with many use cases.
Show me plz


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: tommy69778 on December 13, 2014, 10:03:14 PM
Nxt is one of the big crypto 2.0 coins. It's got it's own decentralized exchange built into the wallet and other features that bitcoin clones lack.


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: peonminer on December 13, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
You shouldn't invest into altcoins.

Now, crypto 2.0 technologies is a different matter.

Altcoin is just a coin like Bitcoin; crypto 2.0 are platforms to leverage decentralization with many use cases.
Show me plz
2 of the most promising. nxt is 1 year ahead of nem so far less risky.

nem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.0;topicseen
nxt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=587007.0;topicseen
but you need nxt to buy nem..... 24% reserved of nem for ppl who started it...... faint smell of fish?


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: kodtycoon on December 13, 2014, 11:17:25 PM
You shouldn't invest into altcoins.

Now, crypto 2.0 technologies is a different matter.

Altcoin is just a coin like Bitcoin; crypto 2.0 are platforms to leverage decentralization with many use cases.
Show me plz
2 of the most promising. nxt is 1 year ahead of nem so far less risky.

nem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.0;topicseen
nxt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=587007.0;topicseen
but you need nxt to buy nem..... 24% reserved of nem for ppl who started it...... faint smell of fish?

25% for development does not mean 25% for the devs.. the devs(5 people + (i think)who ever else they think deserves a reward for helping nem be it in marketing or what not.) will get 15% split between them MAXIMUM and only 10% of that 15% will be distributed at launch. the other 5% will be slow released over time. the rest i would think bounties, hiring other developers and what ever other costs are incurred from development/marketing/promotion etc etc. devs wont get 25%.

you only need nxt to buy nem to buy a stake prior to launch.. we are currently in the redemption period and the majority of stakes have been sent back along with a nem address so that the nem can be redeemed for real nem. there is no other way that we could have traded stakes prior to launch other than issuing assets on the AE to people who registered for a stake. there is no "fish" in nem.. i can assure you of that. the devs have worked tirelessly for nearly a year to produce the brilliant platform that is nem. they are also not launching nem until multisig is ready so that the community can be completely confident in the fact that no one is going to "run with the money".


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: cexylikepie on December 13, 2014, 11:19:41 PM
Use 2.0 coins. You can FEEL the difference


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: Febo on December 13, 2014, 11:42:08 PM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

What is your motivation you want to invest in altcoin?


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: bobster on December 14, 2014, 02:38:11 AM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Have you seen CoinGecko (https://www.coingecko.com/en)?
My advice to you is to do loads and loads of research don't believe all the hype out there.


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: chryspano on December 14, 2014, 03:07:14 AM
Many people say different altcoins are better than others but I don't really see any proof as of yet. What altcoin should I invest in? How do I know if an altcoin is succeeding? I have many questions, but I can't seem to find an answer easily :S

Have you seen CoinGecko (https://www.coingecko.com/en)?
My advice to you is to do loads and loads of research don't believe all the hype out there.


coingecko is a joke, every stat it has about bitshares is completely wrong, for example it says that there are only 66 closed issues in development instead of 882. They also feel that facebook "likes" should be counted in the community rate but not the forum stats of a coin.



My advice to you is to do loads and loads of research don't believe all the hype out there.
^^^This


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: bram_vnl on December 14, 2014, 07:42:19 PM
guldencoin  ;D ;D


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: peonminer on December 14, 2014, 08:16:28 PM
ty for the elaboration ckoon. Wasn't trying to make accusations, merely cautious questions :P 


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: kodtycoon on December 14, 2014, 09:11:12 PM
ty for the elaboration ckoon. Wasn't trying to make accusations, merely cautious questions :P 

no worries. :) better cautious investor than a frivolous one. ;)


Title: Re: So how exactly do I know what altcoin is better?
Post by: dukeneptun on December 15, 2014, 06:41:28 AM
Take a look at Saffroncoin.
Price is so low right now. It can only rise .
Dev always delivers. (check the thread ) (not moderated since begining)
SFRDirect will be released soon (in the matter of days (at max) ). Decentralized Exchange.
It is shortterm investition. But it is one of the best investment oportunities right now.