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Title: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: michietn94 on December 11, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
Recently I just saw that Cryptomine.io receive a red feedback from Mabsark (default trust)
and Mabsark also receive a red feedback from der_troll (default trust)

And I'm called it "Chain of Red Feedback"

Who must we trust ?
Is this kind of trust abusing ?

Thanks for the attention , guys


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: dbshck on December 11, 2014, 03:16:52 PM
That's a bad behaviour, IMO should not put them on default trust until they resolve the problem.

And I would highly trust and respect those guys on Depth 1 default trust.
Quote
Depth 1
sirius (1)
theymos (1)
HostFat (1)
dooglus (1)
Maged (1)
OgNasty (1)
CanaryInTheMine (1)
Tomatocage (1)
SaltySpitoon (1)
BadBear (1)
escrow.ms (1)
OldScammerTag (1)
These guys constantly building the community, and they seems never messing around.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: Quickseller on December 11, 2014, 03:23:13 PM
I guess whoever has participated in more group buys


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on December 11, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
You are talking about DefaultTrust list. Just change the depth to one or copy-paste names from the dbshck's post and change the depth to 0. In your trust list, add Vod too. :)

   ~~MZ~~


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: redsn0w on December 11, 2014, 08:27:21 PM
You are talking about DefaultTrust list. Just change the depth to one or copy-paste names from the dbshck's post and change the depth to 0. In your trust list, add Vod too. :)

   ~~MZ~~

Yes but if he changes to 1 only him will see so, other users with depth level 2 will not see the same thing. I think we need a new trust system ( in the new forum software).


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: Puppet on December 11, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Recently I just saw that Cryptomine.io receive a red feedback from Mabsark (default trust)
and Mabsark also receive a red feedback from der_troll (default trust)

And I'm called it "Chain of Red Feedback"

Who must we trust ?
Is this kind of trust abuser ?

Thanks for the attention , guys

One of them (rightfully) expresses distrust in a few glaringly obvious ponzi scams that refuse to make promised disclosures. That person has been contributing to this forum since 2011
The other promotes scams like terabox, posts mostly silly gifs and offered to sell his account  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835239.msg9605837#msg9605837l)

Take your pick, but my guess is der_troll account was sold and is now being abused to push scams.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: Brewins on December 12, 2014, 02:36:31 AM
Only people you have to trust if you are here is theymos, because he can read all your pms and see everything you do and see all your IPs. If for some reason he goes mad he could do lots of damage.

Other you don't really to trust. That's why you can delete the whole trust and make only your own trust counts for you.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: koshgel on December 12, 2014, 02:49:17 AM
Imo the list for DefaultTrust should be occasionally reviewed to add/remove people who are trustworthy or gone to the dark side.

But you could always remove DefaultTrust from your list and make your own


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: peligro on December 12, 2014, 10:06:57 AM
Imo the list for DefaultTrust should be occasionally reviewed to add/remove people who are trustworthy or gone to the dark side.

There is a normal check and balance process involved. CanaryInTheMine has now removed der_troll's trust, so if it later turns out that his judgement was wrong he will lose his status. Being on the default trust is a responsibility.

There has been cases recently where members have been removed from the default trust list.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: galbros on December 12, 2014, 11:30:21 AM
Imo the list for DefaultTrust should be occasionally reviewed to add/remove people who are trustworthy or gone to the dark side.

But you could always remove DefaultTrust from your list and make your own

This is good advice.  Make your own custom trust list.  The only downside is you wont see what most other users see for people's trust.

So the answer to the OP's question as pointed out by Brewins is you don't have to trust anyone other than theymos, and even he does not have to be in your trust list.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: elasticband on December 12, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
The majority of my default trust is people I have met up with in real life, had a few beers and longs talks.

In reality, trust no one.....




Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: londonsky0 on December 12, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
with this trust system is something wrong.. everyone can give me bad feedback and if someone have two or three accounts (because he can) I can get three bad trust feedbacks..


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: Mabsark on December 12, 2014, 01:29:22 PM
The way I see it, you should trust nobody and use the trust ratings for further investigation.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: londonsky0 on December 18, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
But if someone will give me bad feedback - that can be not fair or even manipulation!


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: Amph on December 18, 2014, 06:28:51 PM
escrower are trustworthy  generally speaking


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: londonsky0 on December 18, 2014, 06:34:17 PM
escrower are trustworthy  generally speaking

I found this list:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Is it actual, or maybe you know something more fresh?


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: elasticband on December 18, 2014, 06:57:21 PM
http://youtu.be/F1ILPl5FQaM


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: xetsr on December 18, 2014, 06:58:42 PM
escrower are trustworthy  generally speaking

I found this list:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Is it actual, or maybe you know something more fresh?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

Being an escrow doesn't make you trusted. I'll be honest, there are a few on those lists I wouldn't trust with anything more then 1 BTC. Just a scam waiting to happen if a large amount of BTC is involved.

Trust people you know can be trusted. Don't trust people because others say they can be trusted and don't go by the default trust list, it's broken as others pointed out before.


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: newIndia on December 18, 2014, 06:59:42 PM
escrower are trustworthy  generally speaking

I found this list:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Is it actual, or maybe you know something more fresh?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

Being an escrow doesn't make you trusted. I'll be honest, there are a few on those lists I wouldn't trust with anything more then 1 BTC. Just a scam waiting to happen if a large amount of BTC is involved.

Trust people you know can be trusted. Don't trust people because others say they can be trusted and don't go by the default trust list, it's broken as others pointed out before.

Neither of these 2 are updated for long. I think this is the latest one => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0


Title: Re: WHO must WE TRUST ?
Post by: londonsky0 on December 18, 2014, 07:01:49 PM
escrower are trustworthy  generally speaking

I found this list:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Is it actual, or maybe you know something more fresh?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

Being an escrow doesn't make you trusted. I'll be honest, there are a few on those lists I wouldn't trust with anything more then 1 BTC. Just a scam waiting to happen if a large amount of BTC is involved.

Trust people you know can be trusted. Don't trust people because others say they can be trusted and don't go by the default trust list, it's broken as others pointed out before.

Neither of these 2 are updated for long. I think this is the latest one => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

Thanks for tips guys!