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Title: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 07:36:27 AM
An Italian boy was cremated without permission in St. Maarten, please read the news:

http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html (http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html)

Please help to spam the news about facebook-twitter-g +-forum ... or if you have news please use the forum:

http://www.planetinfo.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=33&sid=bd4c3c8fa33cb6c67af5613146042225 (http://www.planetinfo.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=33&sid=bd4c3c8fa33cb6c67af5613146042225)

Thank you very much  :-[


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 22, 2012, 07:38:49 AM
What's wrong with being cremated?

EDIT: Ah. He was in a different country? That totally makes sense. The risks we take entering into other countries. I expect that if I died in South Korea, my parents wouldn't get to see my body either.


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: bitcats on June 22, 2012, 07:49:52 AM
What's wrong with being cremated?

EDIT: Ah. He was in a different country? That totally makes sense. The risks we take entering into other countries. I expect that if I died in South Korea, my parents wouldn't get to see my body either.
In a the near future, every(dead)body will get cremated.


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 07:52:44 AM
What's wrong with being cremated?

EDIT: Ah. He was in a different country? That totally makes sense. The risks we take entering into other countries. I expect that if I died in South Korea, my parents wouldn't get to see my body either.

parents were not warned.

When the parents arrived in the country and have asked to see their son, they handed him an envelope containing the ashes ..

no response from police, autopsy, state, institutions ..

ps: sorry for my english


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 22, 2012, 07:55:47 AM
What's wrong with being cremated?

EDIT: Ah. He was in a different country? That totally makes sense. The risks we take entering into other countries. I expect that if I died in South Korea, my parents wouldn't get to see my body either.

parents were not warned.

When the parents arrived in the country and have asked to see their son, they handed him an envelope containing the ashes ..

ps: sorry for my english

Brutal!


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 07:57:41 AM
What's wrong with being cremated?

EDIT: Ah. He was in a different country? That totally makes sense. The risks we take entering into other countries. I expect that if I died in South Korea, my parents wouldn't get to see my body either.

parents were not warned.

When the parents arrived in the country and have asked to see their son, they handed him an envelope containing the ashes ..

no response from police, autopsy, state, institutions ..

ps: sorry for my english

Brutal!

yes ... if you can please help at least to spread ..

thanks for the help and sorry for OT


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 22, 2012, 07:59:10 AM
What's wrong with being cremated?

EDIT: Ah. He was in a different country? That totally makes sense. The risks we take entering into other countries. I expect that if I died in South Korea, my parents wouldn't get to see my body either.

parents were not warned.

When the parents arrived in the country and have asked to see their son, they handed him an envelope containing the ashes ..

no response from police, autopsy, state, institutions ..

ps: sorry for my english

Brutal!

yes ... if you can please help at least to spread ..

I don't want to judge it improperly, but what exactly is the point? He's gone. Do they think he was murdered and this is a government cover up? If not, why not let it go?


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 08:00:15 AM
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Do they think he was murdered and this is a government cover up

..Many things do not come back, for example the Italian consul who did not come on the island.

The parents have done everything by themselves, without knowing English


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on June 22, 2012, 08:07:34 AM
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Do they think he was murdered and this is a government cover up

..Many things do not come back, from the Italian consul who did not come on the island.

The parents have done everything by themselves, without knowing English

Wow. That's some crazy circumstances. Any other records of similar events or is this one of those ridiculous one time fuckups?


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 08:26:47 AM
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That's some crazy circumstances.

are not alone, but when her parents were told only to the authorities at the time and prefer not to disclose it for fear.

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Any other records of similar events or is this one of those ridiculous one time fuckups?]Any other records of similar events or is this one of those ridiculous one time fuckups?

I seem to recall that in that period 3 person had been found with signs of gunshot but have not been cremated... I can not find the news ..


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
Please share the link:

http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html (http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html)

on facebook-twitter-g +-forum ...

please, you are my only "door" to the states

Thank you


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: John (John K.) on June 22, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
Please share the link:

http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html (http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html)

on facebook-twitter-g +-forum ...

please, you are my only "door" to the states

Thank you
Try http://www.reddit.com too.


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 09:55:54 AM
thank you friend


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: AndrewBUD on June 22, 2012, 10:51:59 AM
That's brutal... If I was in the parents shoes I would be doing everything I can so this doesn't happen again......


Some people feel seeing the body one last time is a way to say goodbye......


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 11:23:42 AM
is exact, it is for this reason that parents have asked me to spread the word.



Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: hamdi on June 22, 2012, 11:37:36 AM
then get a proper english version of the story online please


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: wariner on June 22, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
you know. unfortunately I do not speak English well.

in the link
http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html (http://www.planetinfo.info/news/261-andrea-leporini-cremato-senza-consenso.html)

the introduction has been translated, by the time I did a google translation to translate the rest.

in a few days my friend will correct it ..


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: HonorMe on June 22, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
This is so sad, they did not even get to see him one last time. This is terrible.


Title: Re: [PLESE HELP] Boy died and cremated without permission of parents
Post by: LoupGaroux on June 22, 2012, 06:57:14 PM
There is a considerable history of violence towards visitors throughout the Caribbean, and this sounds like another tragic example. Often crimes are carried out by the children and relatives of officials and the powerful, and the law enforcement officials on most islands will do absolutely nothing. A good friend of mine, while serving as cook on a chartered sailboat was kidnapped and gang-raped and brutalized by four sons of police officers in Aruba. She managed to escape three weeks into the ordeal when they were transporting her to a spot to dispose of her and was returned to Canada, where she and her family were told that there was no compelling evidence to bring any charges. This after she provided full details, made identifications and provided DNA samples.

This is a sad story, and I hope Andrea's parents are able to generate some interest in this horrible situation and get some action, even if that action is just a release of some honesty about the death of their son.

Mie condoglianze ai suoi genitori e le mie preghiere che la loro ricerca di giustizia è successo.