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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: molecular on June 23, 2012, 07:32:04 AM



Title: [RESOLVED] anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round
Post by: molecular on June 23, 2012, 07:32:04 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HTWMo.png

http://www.anonibet.com/sport_gam_bet_list.aspx?gm_id=107466

as one can see, the odds are 1.8 for spain and 5.3 for france for tonights game.

so I could bet 2 BTC as follows:

  • 1.5 BTC on Spain (possible winning: 1.5*1.8 = 2.7 BTC
  • 0.5 BTC on France (possible winning: 0.5*5.3 = 2.65 BTC

so I either gain 0.7 or 0.65 BTC, since there is no draw in these games... a sure bet!

Can someone explain to me what's going on? Are there actually players betting on a draw (odds: 3.45) that cannot happen according to the rules of the game?

EDIT: see post below by anonibet. the bet's are decided at the end of the 90 minutes regular time (+possible injury time).


Title: Re: anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round games
Post by: Stephen Gornick on June 23, 2012, 08:27:19 AM
as one can see, the odds are 1.8 for spain and 5.3 for france for tonights game.

Are the odds fixed at the time you bet, or do they change based on how much wagering is occurring, and only the odds at the start of the game are what matter?


Title: Re: anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round games
Post by: info@anonibet.com on June 23, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
Dear member,

The rule for standart bet type(soccer) is

Standard Betting: In this type of betting which is expressed as 1x2, the aim is to predict the result of the match. 1 defines the Home Team, X defines Draw and 2 defines the Visitor team. For the matches played in neutral ground, the team whose name is written first is defined with 1 and the second team with 2. In this bet, only the score obtained at the end of the standard 90 minutes and injury time is considered. The results of the extra periods and/or penalty kicks played during elimination games are not taken into account. This bet shall be valid and closed only if the match is completed. For uncompleted matches, the betting amounts played in this type of betting are refunded.

Over time and penalty shootouts are not included. If there is no winner at 90min regular time+injury time, the "draw" option wins.


The odds are fixed at the bet time.


Kind Regards,
AnoniBet


Title: Re: anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round games
Post by: molecular on June 23, 2012, 09:18:09 AM
as one can see, the odds are 1.8 for spain and 5.3 for france for tonights game.

Are the odds fixed at the time you bet, or do they change based on how much wagering is occurring, and only the odds at the start of the game are what matter?

fixed at time of bet.


Title: Re: anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round games
Post by: molecular on June 23, 2012, 09:19:19 AM
Dear member,

The rule for standart bet type(soccer) is

Standard Betting: In this type of betting which is expressed as 1x2, the aim is to predict the result of the match. 1 defines the Home Team, X defines Draw and 2 defines the Visitor team. For the matches played in neutral ground, the team whose name is written first is defined with 1 and the second team with 2. In this bet, only the score obtained at the end of the standard 90 minutes and injury time is considered. The results of the extra periods and/or penalty kicks played during elimination games are not taken into account. This bet shall be valid and closed only if the match is completed. For uncompleted matches, the betting amounts played in this type of betting are refunded.

Over time and penalty shootouts are not included. If there is no winner at 90min regular time+injury time, the "draw" option wins.


The odds are fixed at the bet time.


Kind Regards,
AnoniBet

thanks for the timely clarification.

EDIT: having thought about this, I'd really prefer you'd make a separate soccer bet type for games that can't end in draw. I'd like to be able to bet on the result of the game as it counts for the tournament. Score after 90 minutes should be special sub-bet at most.

I also think this is confusing for the betters (I might've been pissed off, my fault or not, this can cost you customers).

Please think about taking the effort to change this (it's probably because of technical cumbersomeness, right? not a conscious decision because you want it to be that way?)


Title: Re: [RESOLVED] anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round
Post by: crowe on June 26, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Dear member,

The rule for standart bet type(soccer) is

Standard Betting: In this type of betting which is expressed as 1x2, the aim is to predict the result of the match. 1 defines the Home Team, X defines Draw and 2 defines the Visitor team. For the matches played in neutral ground, the team whose name is written first is defined with 1 and the second team with 2. In this bet, only the score obtained at the end of the standard 90 minutes and injury time is considered. The results of the extra periods and/or penalty kicks played during elimination games are not taken into account. This bet shall be valid and closed only if the match is completed. For uncompleted matches, the betting amounts played in this type of betting are refunded.

Over time and penalty shootouts are not included. If there is no winner at 90min regular time+injury time, the "draw" option wins.


The odds are fixed at the bet time.


Kind Regards,
AnoniBet

thanks for the timely clarification.

EDIT: having thought about this, I'd really prefer you'd make a separate soccer bet type for games that can't end in draw. I'd like to be able to bet on the result of the game as it counts for the tournament. Score after 90 minutes should be special sub-bet at most.
Pretty standard for soccer or hockey or games like this for the bet to be decided in regular time only.  This is hardly unique to anonibet, its standard all over.


Title: Re: [RESOLVED] anonibet offers sure/impossible bets on euro cup soccer final round
Post by: molecular on June 30, 2012, 08:38:44 AM
Dear member,

The rule for standart bet type(soccer) is

Standard Betting: In this type of betting which is expressed as 1x2, the aim is to predict the result of the match. 1 defines the Home Team, X defines Draw and 2 defines the Visitor team. For the matches played in neutral ground, the team whose name is written first is defined with 1 and the second team with 2. In this bet, only the score obtained at the end of the standard 90 minutes and injury time is considered. The results of the extra periods and/or penalty kicks played during elimination games are not taken into account. This bet shall be valid and closed only if the match is completed. For uncompleted matches, the betting amounts played in this type of betting are refunded.

Over time and penalty shootouts are not included. If there is no winner at 90min regular time+injury time, the "draw" option wins.


The odds are fixed at the bet time.


Kind Regards,
AnoniBet

thanks for the timely clarification.

EDIT: having thought about this, I'd really prefer you'd make a separate soccer bet type for games that can't end in draw. I'd like to be able to bet on the result of the game as it counts for the tournament. Score after 90 minutes should be special sub-bet at most.
Pretty standard for soccer or hockey or games like this for the bet to be decided in regular time only.  This is hardly unique to anonibet, its standard all over.

That's pretty stupid in my mind. I want to be able to bet on the winner as specified by the rules of the tournament. Example: maybe I want to insure against my favorite team losing? So either I can party or have made some coins.