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Title: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: Barney Stinson on December 13, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
the keyloggers that monitor copy and paste functions more than anything.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: oblivi on December 13, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
I use secure login for browser passwords, i think its safe. For the rest just use a digital keyboard if paranoid..


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 13, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
the keyloggers that monitor copy and paste functions more than anything.

These exist? Damn yo  :-\


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: Bananana on December 14, 2014, 01:18:35 PM
If you want to be 100% save from keyloggers, use the screen keyboard. I don't think they capture your screen...


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: sl@ppy on December 14, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
Short answer = No.
Anything is breakable before release. As things evolve everything evolves. There is and always will be a way around anything, as long as people are in charge.

I would be more worried about Google, etc, especially if you use Chrome. Look at what the big companies are doing in the cookie world. That is what you need to watch out for.
Just so you all know- Google considers any computer to be fair game to harvest info 24hrs a day if you install any google product


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: elliwilli on December 14, 2014, 09:14:36 PM
Even Screen-keyboards are keylogged now. take a look over at skidforums and some of the keyloggers there log it. kind of annoying.
If you are super paranoid do your banking and stuff in TAILS


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: rigel on December 14, 2014, 09:45:43 PM
the keyloggers that monitor copy and paste functions more than anything.

You don't need to copy and paste your password at once.
You can scrumble it copying different pieces in random order.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: b!z on December 14, 2014, 11:10:08 PM
the keyloggers that monitor copy and paste functions more than anything.

You don't need to copy and paste your password at once.
You can scrumble it copying different pieces in random order.

Malware can just grab the contents of the form when you submit.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: twister on December 15, 2014, 06:04:32 AM
If you want to be 100% save from keyloggers, use the screen keyboard. I don't think they capture your screen...

And soon you'll find out that them on-screen keyboard programs had the key-loggers built in. How can you not trust one but trust the other?


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: b!z on December 15, 2014, 06:47:31 PM
If you want to be 100% save from keyloggers, use the screen keyboard. I don't think they capture your screen...

And soon you'll find out that them on-screen keyboard programs had the key-loggers built in. How can you not trust one but trust the other?

Open source


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: Puppet on December 15, 2014, 06:54:12 PM
I would be more worried about Google, etc, especially if you use Chrome.

Use chromium then.  But thats not gonna help against keyloggers, to make that only a remote possibility, switch to an opensource OS.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: b!z on December 15, 2014, 07:02:14 PM
You can use a hardware tool like yubikey as an extra layer of protection.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: sanos51ck on December 15, 2014, 10:19:31 PM
You can use a hardware tool like yubikey as an extra layer of protection.

Or other 2-factor authentication using your phone.

or

Kickstarter Everykey (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/everykey/everykey-the-wristband-that-replaces-keys-and-pass)

or

Kickstarter Blooky (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/339603800/blooky-wireless-bluetooth-password-key)

or

Kickstarter LogmeOnce (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/199263837/logmeonce-your-password-manager-secure-usb-and-pho/comments)


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: b!z on December 16, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
You can use a hardware tool like yubikey as an extra layer of protection.

Or other 2-factor authentication using your phone.

or

Kickstarter Everykey (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/everykey/everykey-the-wristband-that-replaces-keys-and-pass)

or

Kickstarter Blooky (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/339603800/blooky-wireless-bluetooth-password-key)

or

Kickstarter LogmeOnce (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/199263837/logmeonce-your-password-manager-secure-usb-and-pho/comments)


Yeah, gauth is decent and easy to setup too


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: oli123123 on December 16, 2014, 10:13:32 AM
If you want to be 100% save from keyloggers, use the screen keyboard. I don't think they capture your screen...
Some viruses can capture your screen.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: sudexx on December 19, 2014, 04:19:15 AM

Yeah, gauth is decent and easy to setup too

What is gauth?

Google authenticator?


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: b!z on December 20, 2014, 12:57:26 AM

Yeah, gauth is decent and easy to setup too

What is gauth?

Google authenticator?

Yes, I meant Google Authenticator.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on December 20, 2014, 05:01:50 AM
I am cool with a safemonked database on Keepass (http://keepass.info/).
Passwords are insterted with the auto-type two channel obfuscation feature + last 6 digits of each password insterted manually through Neo Safe Keys v3 (http://www.aplin.com.au/) + 2fa where allowed.
Bear principle: you don't need to be able to outrun an angry bear to escape; you only have to outrun the guy next to you.


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: Zeta0S on December 20, 2014, 05:02:55 AM
the keyloggers that monitor copy and paste functions more than anything.
I do not use passwords, so i am save anyway


Title: Re: Will there ever be a password manager safe from keyloggers?
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on December 20, 2014, 08:21:16 AM
Save your password in a different way.

If you are paranoid, use the on-screen keyboard, on site keyboard, partial copy paste combination.

If your password is say lknfmpweoinkkpoe  (only an eg.)
You will have this one: nfmpweoinkkpolke, etc.
Randomize, tips, stuff.  ;D

Don't do this for everything. Else, you will go crazy.  ;D