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I think that bears are primarily bears because they fundamentally trust our current system.

Being a bear for them is a way to protect their current investments as they feel Bitcoin is both a scam and at the same time a threat. So they bash because it helps them feel like they are not just standing idle while their retirement accounts become worthless.

Ultimately, Bears will all become bulls eventually, they know too much about Bitcoin to not start buying it when things really start to accelerate.

There will be no bears from $1000 to $10000, then they will come back again in full force.

Even with a mature market we will have bears, look at gold, there are plenty of haters on gold and it is the worlds oldest investment.

Says the guy who post on bitcointalk forum for more than a year.

Sometimes it seems that the biggest bear trolls are the biggest BTC holders. With their writing they want to shift market to final lowest bubble stage and quickly finish with this bear market.  :D

lol idiot

It is currently the bulls that lose money.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that this is true for most bears. Why does this matter, precisely? How does this counter the general price trend or prospects for adoption which are dwindling? Yes, many people got burnt by bucket shop exchanges and manipulation such that they no longer believe in the prospects of Bitcoin -- the brand has been tarred even if cryptos proceed to be successful. Thanks for noticing, I guess?

Seriously, this is counter to your own position... you realize that, right?

leverage is everywhere, you always tempted to try if you see it when you are trading on one exchange

Bulls are allowed to short too you know  ;)

Defining a bull as someone who never sells is as extreme as defining a bear as someone who never buys.

Only on Bitcointalk is it possible to find a thread where someone pronounces that those who have been negative about the prospects for the price of an investment would have been better off buying and holding, as we come to the end of a year where prices have fallen steadily by 70%!!!!

And what's even more nuts, is that most people who read my statement above will think I'm an idiot, and just don't get it!

Dude, WTF is wrong with you? ::) :o Don't you know that they aren't losses if you hodl and don't sell. I'm never selling my coins... ever. I'll just jack off to their infinite value every now and then. I mean, f--- the market... they just don't get it... they don't realize how cool these things are. They are each worth a million dollars. I'm the richest man in the world with all of these million dollar coins. This isn't money, man... this is wealth. Bullish as fuck, bro.

Bahahahahaha

Sell-off on Huobi... cheap coins... bullish as fuck... this is going to increase BTC adoption by ^100,000,000

Bull and bear are temporal definitions - if someone is not interested in a market he is not a bear - but an outside observer. Bear is someone who currently is not holding the asset (or is shorting it) - but plans to buy it later. Bulls that hold shorts are just stupid (I guess there could be a legitimate scenario where someone was betting on volatility and holding both the asset and shorts on it - but it does not make sense in our setup).

FUD masterbater in full effect. When you catch a Perma-Troll jacking off to their own anti-bitcoin mantras ON A BITCOIN THREAD, it's perfect timing for introducing them to your ignore list

You can be bearish short to midterm but still bullish longterm. Its not mutually exckusive and can be incredible profitable :)

But in this case you don't hold the asset now - because you can buy it later for less (which means you are not a bull now).

I don't know I bought in this time last year and I'm not raging like fewcoins. I just keep getting more BTC looking at it like a buying opportunity. Maybe it's because I didn't go all in, and I dollar cost average by buying some every month.

Lots of people on this forum have lost money in 2014, some of them small fortunes. Some large fortunes. Of these, there are two types of people:

1) "Bears" -- people who realized it was bubble backed on little more than enthusiasm, and not much else. Some acknowledge that the price could rise again, but for now they're out of the game until something changes.

2) "Bulls" -- also lost a ton of money, but it's all on paper, so in their minds it's not a real loss yet. Instead, they just keep holding or buying even more, and convince themselves that it will be all okay... eventually they will realize that they were suckered and should have put them money into an index fund or elsewhere.

I can't tell whether this is full of sarcasm or not.  In case it's not, then okay.

In case it is, then realize that you were responding to a sensible statement.  It's a terrible thing to try to convince yourself that you aren't losing anything by holding, even when your *purchasing power* is dwindling. 

You have a slightly warped sense of reality, possibly reflecting your poor trading performance and the fact that your only measure of bitcoin success is short term exchange price.

Dwindling adoption prospects? Someone tell the web wallet companies, or the VC's pumping half a billion dollars into the space, or minor tech startups like microsoft and paypal integrating bitcoin this year.

Most people reading it didn't buy at the peak price you and your ilk love quoting, nor would they be anything but richer in fiat terms if they sold today. Not sure why you don't understand people cheerleading something they believe in that has also the happy byproduct of (even now) having made them wealthy.

Good luck timing the market!

You need to work on your sarcasm detector. Of course it's sarcasm, directed at Devin Chow. :D

I'm a bear because I think there's a good reason to be bearish when you look at the fundamentals of Bitcoin. It has no value, you can't do anything with it other than send it to somebody else. That's why I'm a bear.



It's also hilarious to see the nonsense and the wishful thinking of so many bitcoiners:

  - Whenever the price goes up "yeah, price discovery!", whenever it goes down "fucking bots and bearwhales"

- The outlandish price predicitions that people make on this forum, based on nothing. Like the people that said in 2013 "bitcoin will be 10,000$ next year, mark my words" while showing you graphics with lots of lines drawn with MSpaint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLfyRcUb5Hg

Possibly one of the most stupid comments I have ever seen on here.

Cry some more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7SOPDOvvI

Read what you posted and head back to troll finishing school with your one month old account.

i wonder which bear has lost money in 2014, i just cant image it. i guess this is what denial is about

http://www.searchquotes.com/sof/images/picture_quotes/65038_20130205_013303_A-tear.jpg

yeah, let it all out. More tears and zero arguments.

After I told you guys I nibbled at buying over 100coins we shot right up over $15 more per coin!!! I sold it all shorted down and we are down another $10... hmmmm sounds like im loosing money hahaha especially since I still have shorts fromt he paypal pop AND the MSFT pop

I'm sorry I can't hear you guys over the noise of me counting all this USD cold hard cash!!!

Serms to me the butthurt is strong in Devin Chow rather than bears.  Hows that long position treating you?  70% down? Yikes!  Better dump soon

The heavy bags seem to cause a lot of stress for some.
This happens when random uneducated people suddenly decide to become rich as "investors".
And of course, like always, those are to blame who actually made money by properly timing their sells. The "investor" is never to be blamed, whose only ability is to buy and sit on his ass without any trading.