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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: promojo on December 15, 2014, 08:45:02 PM



Title: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: promojo on December 15, 2014, 08:45:02 PM
Why is it that BTC-e is always $5-$10/USD lower than other exchanges?   Thanks in advance.


promo
 


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: 1Referee on December 15, 2014, 09:02:53 PM
Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed price because different exchanges have different traders.

That results in a different price. It have been like that for a long time, only nowadays the price gap is tighter.



Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: promojo on December 15, 2014, 10:38:25 PM
Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed price because different exchanges have different traders.

That results in a different price. It have been like that for a long time, only nowadays the price gap is tighter.



People on another chat were talking about how they may not have all the coins to cover it and that is why the price is lower.  But i do see your point.


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: grappa_barricata on December 15, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
Arbitragers, profiting from price differences among exchanges, minimize those differences up to the point of profitability but no further. This mean that all costs should be taken into account, including the cost of money flow. So, looking at the exchanges, you can guess how much it cost arbitragers to move money around. The reason BTC-E price is lower than most of the other exchanges most of the time is probably due to the cost of moving money in BTC-E being higher than the other exchanges. Cost here include not only money, but time and risk too.


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: fewcoins on December 16, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed price because different exchanges have different traders.

That results in a different price. It have been like that for a long time, only nowadays the price gap is tighter.



People on another chat were talking about how they may not have all the coins to cover it and that is why the price is lower.  But i do see your point.



ding ding ding! Why else would they manipulate the price lower?! They are spending other people's coins! The poor people who deposit with them :(


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: rogerdonkey on December 16, 2014, 03:06:07 AM
every exchange have different price,it's tactic marketing


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: byronbb on December 16, 2014, 06:01:40 AM
BTC-E is basically the Switzerland of bitcoin exchanges. No one really knows who owns it and users are not required to post KYC details. Ie it attracts drug dealers and hackers. Because of this, sellers are willing to take a worse price for this privacy which the buyers are aware of, thus the price is always lower than other, more legitimate offerings.


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: Bernard Lerring on December 16, 2014, 06:18:21 AM
I suspected (maybe from a post somewhere on these forums) that BTC-e was Russian hosted.

Is anyone able to confirm this? Should we be worried about using BTC-e since Russia has a bit of a currency crisis going on at the moment?

I'm thinking along the lines of the site suddenly being unavailable etc.

Or is it thriving so much that it should be OK to use?


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: Deadstock on December 16, 2014, 07:02:06 AM
I suspected (maybe from a post somewhere on these forums) that BTC-e was Russian hosted.

Is anyone able to confirm this? Should we be worried about using BTC-e since Russia has a bit of a currency crisis going on at the moment?

I'm thinking along the lines of the site suddenly being unavailable etc.

Or is it thriving so much that it should be OK to use?
I trust btc-e more than places like cryptsy..never had a problem with them  :)


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: grappa_barricata on December 16, 2014, 07:29:28 AM
I suspected (maybe from a post somewhere on these forums) that BTC-e was Russian hosted.

Is anyone able to confirm this? Should we be worried about using BTC-e since Russia has a bit of a currency crisis going on at the moment?

I'm thinking along the lines of the site suddenly being unavailable etc.

Or is it thriving so much that it should be OK to use?

The owners/operators are from Bulgaria i think, the exchange itself is on the meta-realms.


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: Cassie.Jill on December 16, 2014, 07:59:30 AM
only one - the high withdrawal fiat fee


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: abs350 on December 16, 2014, 08:33:55 AM
the reason is the difficulty with the banks since they are russian. that means its more difficult to wire money there, so lower $usd price (more demand for $$usd compared to eg. finex)


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: promojo on December 19, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
I suspected (maybe from a post somewhere on these forums) that BTC-e was Russian hosted.

Is anyone able to confirm this? Should we be worried about using BTC-e since Russia has a bit of a currency crisis going on at the moment?

I'm thinking along the lines of the site suddenly being unavailable etc.

Or is it thriving so much that it should be OK to use?
I trust btc-e more than places like cryptsy..never had a problem with them  :)

I honestly have not had a problem either!   I did move my coins however to Bitfinex over the past couple days.


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: Amph on December 19, 2014, 06:15:21 PM
Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed price because different exchanges have different traders.

That results in a different price. It have been like that for a long time, only nowadays the price gap is tighter.



i don't he was talking about arbitrage, but why the btc-e arbitrage is lower

try to ask them


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: greenlion on December 19, 2014, 09:00:31 PM
If the price is systematically lower, that indicates that there is some advantage to withdrawing dollars there as opposed to the other exchanges, making it a seller's market. The exact opposite of second-half 2013 Gox, where the price eventually decoupled due to the impossibility of dollar withdrawals.


Title: Re: The age old question about BTC-e and it's price
Post by: exoton on December 20, 2014, 10:50:02 PM
Why is it that BTC-e is always $5-$10/USD lower than other exchanges?   Thanks in advance.


promo
 
Right now it is closer to $1.5 lower then stamp. I have noticed that it is generally somewhat lower, but I wouldn't say it is 1-2% lower.

I would tend to agree with the above argument that since btc-e does not complete any KYC verifications it is going to attract people who value their privacy. Since it is the sale of bitcoin that is going to trigger potential taxes, people are going to want to use them to sell bitcoin more often then they are going to want to use them to buy bitcoin (when taxes are not applicable)