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Title: Worn out components
Post by: JohnRaccoon on December 18, 2014, 02:55:37 PM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: spazzdla on December 18, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

Short answer, you can only mine with an ASCI and it won't mess up your computer.


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: Kluge on December 18, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[
There aren't many moving parts to "wear out" except the fans. Electromigration can occur if components become too hot for too long. This could cause the hardware to become less efficient or fail to run altogether. Mining is very efficient in utilizing the GPU's resources and will run it hotter than any game. Therefor, you need adequate cooling with anything you're using to mine, and this includes ASICs.

You should monitor the temperatures of anything you're using to mine. If you're using a GPU on a PC, try to ensure temperatures stay under 90*C, and preferably under 80*C. For ASICs, you just need to stay within manufacturer specs, and you should know you can't just assume the ASIC will stay in temperature specs just because it's pre-built for mining -- you need to check its temperature every now and then to make sure it's running alright.

The overhead in using an ASIC miner connected to a PC is minimal. The PC will not overheat from the ASIC being connected, but the ASIC itself may, and the GPUs in the PC may if you use the PC to mine at the same time.

Ultimately, the effects of modern GPU over-exposure to heat on their MTBF isn't well-known. I'm unaware of good studies on the matter, and because GPUs likely won't be worth more than $20 in, say, ten years, the effects of running your components hot might not be worth worrying too much about compared to, say, boxes critical in a business' intranet server pool.


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: kimchi64 on December 18, 2014, 11:15:46 PM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

Short answer, you can only mine with an ASCI and it won't mess up your computer.

This.
Or ofc you cant take an alternate path and mine with an ASIC connected to a pi or something


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: philipma1957 on December 19, 2014, 04:53:51 AM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

most of use use devices that connect directly to the net with a ethernet wire.

an antminer s-3 is around 175-200 usd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S3-453-GH-s-SHA-256-/111546707330?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item19f8b3ad82

this needs a psu and an ethernet connection to run.  you need a pc to look at it every one in a while and make sure it is running correctly


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: picolo on December 27, 2014, 08:35:45 PM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

most of use use devices that connect directly to the net with a ethernet wire.

an antminer s-3 is around 175-200 usd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S3-453-GH-s-SHA-256-/111546707330?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item19f8b3ad82

this needs a psu and an ethernet connection to run.  you need a pc to look at it every one in a while and make sure it is running correctly

Not a bad price for 453GHS : "Hash Rate: 453 GH/są5% with great OC potential" 194$=0.61BTC (+shipping), it should earn 0.1732/month (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty)


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: Bananana on December 29, 2014, 01:44:06 AM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

most of use use devices that connect directly to the net with a ethernet wire.

an antminer s-3 is around 175-200 usd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S3-453-GH-s-SHA-256-/111546707330?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item19f8b3ad82

this needs a psu and an ethernet connection to run.  you need a pc to look at it every one in a while and make sure it is running correctly

Not a bad price for 453GHS : "Hash Rate: 453 GH/są5% with great OC potential" 194$=0.61BTC (+shipping), it should earn 0.1732/month (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty)

S5 is the way to go now, S3 is no longer worth it. The price should be cheaper per hash for S5 including shipment.

Note: S5 power efficiency is 30% better then s3.


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: activebiz on December 30, 2014, 10:46:56 AM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

the best option is mining with raspberry pi connected to the ASIC miner.


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: kpitti on December 30, 2014, 06:49:40 PM
Hi guys  ;D ! Today I talked to a guy about bitcoin mining. He told me that if you mine your PC will be worn out. But if I use an ASIC Miner will my PC be allright? Both devices will be worn-out or only the Miner? ??? I'm new in Bitcoin business. Sorry if my question is stupid  :-[

I will just explain on the example. Are you listenning radio, mp3 player, or TV regulary? Are you aware if they worn out? I think not too much.

Back to computers:
There are parts which are mechanical like Disk drives, DVD etc... extensive using of these parts will worn-out them and they more probably can failed.
But there are eletronics parts which can be damaged only by high current or voltage. The most critical thing is environment. Miner and high end PC is very powerfull and is producing heat which can damage it. But generaly I would not too much care about usage of Miner or PC continuously if you keep proper environment within specification. From experience it`s murch worst to power down and up again and again.

You can choose your Miner to be standalone machine which do need PC, just connect to your home network. This way your PC will not worn-out thanks to mining.


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: lowbander80 on January 01, 2015, 11:26:34 AM
Think that computer will not suffer but only your electricity bill.now if you are not paying for this guess you don't cre for computer as well but it's really worthless...


Title: Re: Worn out components
Post by: dr1980m on January 01, 2015, 12:06:42 PM
i suggest u, use cloud mining
don't think other fees :)