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Title: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mrb on June 25, 2012, 08:13:09 AM
It is my understanding that the SMF Bookmark Mod (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=350) would serve the same purpose as subscribing to a thread, with the added advantage that end-users can stop bookmarking a thread ("unsubscribe").

Please install it.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: theymos on June 25, 2012, 05:44:04 PM
That mod doesn't show a full view of topics like "show new replies to your posts" does. It just allows you to add topics to a simple list. There are no "new" buttons or a "last post" column, etc. Pretty useless.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mrb on June 25, 2012, 07:58:09 PM
It doesn't show "new" buttons next to subject titles? Grrr. Useless, indeed.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: Gladamas on June 25, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
Sub


(Please add this, I don't think it would be totally useless. Are the current "new" buttons compatible with this mod?)


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mollison on June 26, 2012, 09:32:39 AM
Why aren't people just using the email notification system? I'd like to hear the answer to this from a "subber".


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: ColdHardMetal on June 26, 2012, 10:16:14 AM
Why aren't people just using the email notification system? I'd like to hear the answer to this from a "subber".

Because it performs a totally different function than a "sub" post does.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: Meni Rosenfeld on June 26, 2012, 10:45:22 AM
Why aren't people just using the email notification system? I'd like to hear the answer to this from a "subber".
Because I don't want to get emails about forum posts. I want to know about new posts when I'm reading the forum.

I'm not much of a subber myself, I have the opposite problem - often I innocently post in a thread, and then when it grows to 200 pages my watchlist keeps getting hammered with threads I'm not interested in anymore. That's why I'm using this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59229) account when I foresee a problem.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: bulanula on June 26, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
Why aren't people just using the email notification system? I'd like to hear the answer to this from a "subber".
Because I don't want to get emails about forum posts. I want to know about new posts when I'm reading the forum.

I'm not much of a subber myself, I have the opposite problem - often I innocently post in a thread, and then when it grows to 200 pages my watchlist keeps getting hammered with threads I'm not interested in anymore. That's why I'm using this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59229) account when I foresee a problem.

Just delete your post in that thread !

Simples ...


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mufa23 on June 26, 2012, 12:29:44 PM
I check "Show new replies to your posts" on the forums about 75 times a day.

No joke...
Ditto


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: Meni Rosenfeld on June 26, 2012, 12:34:37 PM
Why aren't people just using the email notification system? I'd like to hear the answer to this from a "subber".
Because I don't want to get emails about forum posts. I want to know about new posts when I'm reading the forum.

I'm not much of a subber myself, I have the opposite problem - often I innocently post in a thread, and then when it grows to 200 pages my watchlist keeps getting hammered with threads I'm not interested in anymore. That's why I'm using this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59229) account when I foresee a problem.

Just delete your post in that thread !

Simples ...
That doesn't work after the post is cached (or something like that). And, that's not a legitimate solution.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mollison on June 26, 2012, 10:44:07 PM
In response to people explaining why they "sub"...

If you have an actual mail client, it's really easy to have forum notifications filtered into their own folder, keep your client running all the time, and just look in that folder when you want to see notifications.

Now you have something almost idential to using the "show new replies to your posts" feature, except you don't have to post "sub"s, AND you can easily turn off notifications on any thread you've lost interest in.

And you can still check it 75 times a day if you want to, and you can even check it at the same time that you're visiting the forum.  :D

Please forgive the preaching, I understand people prefer different things and that's fine. I just feel bad for you all and wanted to help.  :D  Your "subs" don't bother me in the least; I actually think they're kind of cute.

By the way, I probably wouldn't use the email solution if I were on Windows, where there is no way (that I know of) to put the mail client on its own workspace (so it doesn't clog up the task bar all the time). I also wouldn't use the email solution if I used webmail, because then keeping it open all the time would (again) be a nuisance by clogging up the browser's tab bar.

If you have one of these "problematic" setups and you use the forum A LOT, it may even be worth changing around your "setup." Especially compared to having 2 accounts, or having to delete your posts! Doing it my way makes using the forum a pleasure, and I can only imagine the other way would be a huge pain in the ass.

EDIT: By the way, let me point out that if you are using webmail, you could get an actual mail client and separate address that is *only* used for getting forum notifications. Pretty painless.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: Gladamas on June 26, 2012, 11:08:30 PM
!!!!! Check it out at the top. "Watchlist!"


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mollison on June 26, 2012, 11:20:09 PM
Yeah this pretty much nullifies the long post I just made. Which is actually a good thing.

Watchlist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90136.new#new)


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mrb on June 27, 2012, 11:22:09 AM
Thank you theymos for implementing the watchlist!
Had you not done it yourself, I would have looked into writing it myself  ;)


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: mc_lovin on June 27, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
does the 'notify' button not work?


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: rjk on June 27, 2012, 03:50:33 PM
does the 'notify' button not work?

"notify" is for emails, which not all of us want. Instead, we use the "watchlist", so that when you click the "Watchlist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=watchlist)" link at the top of the page, all you see are the topics you are watching.

You can then respond to the most important topics first, then read the rest of the forum.


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: Meni Rosenfeld on June 27, 2012, 06:34:53 PM
does the 'notify' button not work?
Come on, 3 people in this thread had already explained why "notify" is a different feature than this...


Title: Re: SMF Bookmark Mod to avoid noisy "sub" posts
Post by: Gladamas on June 28, 2012, 02:07:22 AM
some threads are in my watchlist that i did not put there??? wtf

Theymos converted some of the generic "Sub" posts to watchlist entries.

The automatic transfer of "sub" posts to watchlist entries is finished. About 1000 posts were transferred. If your "sub" posts were not automatically transfered, make sure you manually transfer them soon. Moderators will eventually start deleting these posts.

This is the SQL query I used:
Code:
insert ignore into smf_watchlist(ID_MEMBER,ID_TOPIC) select distinct 
ID_MEMBER,ID_TOPIC from smf_messages where length(body)<40 and
lower(body) regexp '[[:<:]]sub.*' and lower(body) not like
'%subforum%' and lower(body) not like '%subdomain%' and lower(body)
not like '%subscriber%' and lower(body) not like '%subscript%' and
lower(body) not like '%subject%' and lower(body) not like
'%subsidy%' and lower(body) not like '%subsist%' and lower(body) not
like '%sub-%'and lower(body) not like '%submit%' and lower(body) not
like '%submers%' and lower(body) not like '%substance%'  and
lower(body) not like '%substit%' and ID_MSG<>594521 and
ID_MSG<>442378 and ID_MSG<>345513 and ID_MSG>300000;