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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 03:36:05 PM



Title: Looking for .05 loan, payback Monday morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
I have a localbtc account as collateral, or this account, also a battle.net account.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/TheFaceless/

18j48ch2g9vUF8GQKLG4exBamzCVAMVwmQ




Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: hua_hui on December 20, 2014, 03:40:44 PM
I don't think any one will be interested at the account! Any allcoin, cloud mining share or other legit one?


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 03:50:41 PM
I'm not a miner, nor a programmer, anything like that.  I just used this to swap for amazon codes and make small purchases at the bitcoin meetings.  Segvec has loaned me before, but I know his trust is in the tank right now. 


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: fildza on December 20, 2014, 03:53:26 PM
If you can give me collateral that I can use I will provide the loan. That acc is not collateral. Collateral is something that you can give to the lender


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
localbitcoins account?


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: redsn0w on December 20, 2014, 03:58:37 PM
localbitcoins account?

Read this :

What is considered collateral?

Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC).
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.

What is not considered collateral?

- Items not in hand.  Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default!  Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box.
- Future income.  You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt.
- Identification.  So what if they can prove who they are.  Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds?  You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does.  ID is useless.
- Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight.
- Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time.  Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come 6 months later!
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account)
 
When should you use Escrow?

 - Never send collateral directly to a low activity/post account offering you a loan, as they are likely to take your coins and disappear.
 - Use only "Hero Members" for escrow - they have a vested interest in the community with the days they have spent here.
 - Do not use a third party escrow service unless hero members can vouch for it - it's too easy to create a website, do a few escrows then disappear with a big balance.  Rinse and repeat.
 
When considering the trustworthiness of a user, ignore "Posts" as there are schemes that pay a user per post.  A person can make 1,000 useless posts in one day and contribute nothing to the community.  Instead look at the "Activity" number - that gives you a more accurate tally of how involved the user is in the community.

Ignore the sob stories that users post - it's just a scam to get your coins.  If a person really is in such a situation, they can turn to family, friends or other social circles they frequent.  They are just posting in our community because the payment is anonymous and irreversible.

Finally, do not encourage scammers to come here!  Giving out loans to newbies with no collateral, or loans to people with negative trust from "OldScammerTag" are likely to get you negative-trusted by other users, like me.   :)


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
Positive loan history doesn't count?


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: fildza on December 20, 2014, 04:09:01 PM
Positive loan history doesn't count?
You dont have any loan history


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: Quickseller on December 20, 2014, 04:27:22 PM
An LBC account could potentially be used as collateral, however like bitcointalk accounts once they are known to be sold/traded their value diminishes significantly.

I am not sure what value an LBC account is worth, but I wouldn't think they would be worth very much, plus AFAIK LBC does not allow the trading of accounts


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
This thread, segvec loaned me, and I paid back. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869848.0


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 04:42:11 PM
My LBC account has my facebook profile and is fully verified.  At the very least, it could be used to perpetrate some sort of fraud using my likeness.  That has to be worth something....  It also is 100% feedback and is 6 months old, which are all thresholds that open up trading abilities on that site.


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 05:31:53 PM
Could really use this loan please.  I'm poor as hell, and using this to buy food.  I have a benefits check that is deposited sunday night.  I will use that to reimburse you, just like I did segvec on my previous loan. 


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: Quickseller on December 20, 2014, 05:34:02 PM
Could really use this loan please.  I'm poor as hell, and using this to buy food.  I have a benefits check that is deposited sunday night.  I will use that to reimburse you, just like I did segvec on my previous loan. 
You are not going to be able to convert your proceeds to fiat between now and tomorrow night. Nor will you be able to convert fiat back to bitcoin within 24 hours (this may be more possible).

I would suggest you give up and lock this thread. You clearly are only here in order to "borrow" money from a sucker


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback tomorrow morning
Post by: strungoutbtc on December 20, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
There is an exchange here in Brooklyn, that was the same question asked in the last thread.  If you would only review the segvec loans thread, you can see I borrowed for the exact same reason, and paid back on time with 20% interest.  Please.  I will give you my localbtc account that is linked to my facebook and family members and everyone I know.  It's ridiculous for me to not pay back this loan and deal with that shit show.


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback Monday morning
Post by: Dogedigital on December 21, 2014, 11:41:17 PM
What's the battle.net account have?


Title: Re: Looking for .05 loan, payback Monday morning
Post by: Vod on December 22, 2014, 12:00:28 AM
Loan is not needed anymore.