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Hello. Maybe my propose will be interesting to investors or large mining farms owners.

1kW - 1 UAH (today it`s about 6 cents).

Central part, Ukraine. 100% Safe and security territory. Far away from ATO zone.

Stable electricity from atomic station sourses. No cut-backs, no coal problems.

We can host your hardware, or just sell the electricity, buildings (for rent).

Ask questions, we are open for cooperations.

Pics of the hosting facility?

Pics!!!

 What is the import&export status with the EU? do we pay anything when sending you our hardware? Do we need to pay customs when we get the hardware back?

What town?

It is going to be hard to get people for this.  Most of the big players already know how to find low priced electricity.   For a building doing this I image you will need a lot more cooling then you have.  Expect a decent cost for cooling gear.

This would only be of interest if the price could be guaranteed for any extended period, say 2 years or more, and electricity supply could also be guaranteed.

There are reports in the press of coal shortages and cut-backs of electricity in Ukraine.  I don't know if this is the case but it does not seem like a good area for reliable electricity supply.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/12/19/ukraine-crisis-power-idINL6N0U336T20141219
and
http://zik.ua/en/news/2014/12/21/ukraine_has_no_option_but_cut_electricity_supplies_to_crimea_551026
and
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-12-19/news/57233843_1_thermal-power-plants-power-crisis-power-restrictions


As well Ukraine electricity generation seems to be undergoing major reorganization.  See for example Energy Company of Ukraine (HAK) being liquidated (Needs translation to English).

http://www.epravda.com.ua/news/2014/09/4/488871/

In summary mining needs guaranteed prices and guaranteed electricity supply.  Maybe Ukraine is OK but at the moment it does not give the impression that both price and supply can be guaranteed. Ideally the price should be fixed to USD or Euros.

When sending - yes. From 20% to 40% from any price, which is more than 200 euro. When get back, in UA customs you don`t need to pay anything. In your country you can figure out, i dont know. Also we have a solution to optimize costs for import.   About town - write PM to you.

Yes, we can guaranteed extended period. And you are quite right about coal and cut-backs, but it`s not in all country, only some cities. Our location guaranteed stable electricity supply without cut-backs or other problems.

Do you have any pictures of the place?

No pic at this moment.

any issue with UK based investor arm going on site ? are there potential securities and bonds available in Ukraine for insuring product value on site?

i'd be interested in hearing more.

I am not sure how good of an idea this would be. The very unstable geopolitical situation in that area means that both the miners could end up getting seized/damaged due to war and that the stability/reliability of the electricity would be questionable (meaning potential downtime).   

I think a combination of what you mentioned and lack of details will end this idea.   Just to have no pictures from inside makes everyone scared to invest.  I can understand hiding address for security reasons.  But there is a lot of info-structure that needs to be set up in building to do it proper.

I think there are other regions that this electricity level can be achieved, with a better situation around area. US - Washington state, China (they are growing in this sector), etc.

I somewhat find it hard to believe that anyone would trust any kind of data center that markets themselves to bitcoin miners. I think the risk of the datacenter stealing the machines would simply be too high (or the risk the operator would arbitrarily change pool settings to a pool they control - they have physical access).

I agree that the lack of pictures is a concern, but is not the least of them

I don`t mean to host in big new data center private miners (in small quantity) or something like that.

Please, see the first message in this thread. We sell electricity and have buildings for rent.

You don`t need to invest in "don`t know what". Write me in PM, what do you want for your needs.

And yes, there are no pics for security reasons. But its for the first time..

Making contracts, all procedures and conditions are clear.

How would a picture from inside possibly be a security risk?  Expected to show you have the space and heat exhaust is very fair to ask.  

Also you should have a real security system, if your only security measure is trying to hide it that is not best solution.