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Title: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: SamedamnBTC on December 22, 2014, 03:12:49 PM
No


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: youngmike on December 22, 2014, 03:26:41 PM
Buy bitbay or blocknet so bob can have that money  :)


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: LuckyBtc on December 22, 2014, 05:06:13 PM
Hello, I have just won a total of 250k worth of BTC, how would you go about it and transfer the money into an apartment, taxing as little as possible.

Can I get a loan?

This is the scenario:

- You have been homeless the past 2 years, with litte to no income(apart from betting)

- You have 50k in debt to variouse bills(small things) of that 50k about 40k is student loan.

- Apartment price is little expensive; 400k for a decent 2 room apartment.

- You have just found a job paying 10k a month(old nice friend offered)

How would you turn your life upside down? without risking to much from gov. eating your lucky money?
How did you won that much money? It will obviously a problem to transfer that kinda money to your bank.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Discombobulated on December 22, 2014, 06:03:29 PM
Sell the bitcoin to someone on the forum you might get less than 250k but it would still be a good idea rather than giving it to a exchange.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: EnchantedMaple on December 22, 2014, 06:15:57 PM
Sell the bitcoin to someone on the forum you might get less than 250k but it would still be a good idea rather than giving it to a exchange.

Why?

I think people is to paranoid around here, its not illegal to sell or own a lot of Bitcoins, FYI

If you want to by property at the moment you either use bitpay or find someone selling for bitcoin.otherwise you have to give it either to a exchange when giving it to a exchange some banks will close down your account because they are not friendly with bitcoin and  they can do that for any reason as its written into the contract that you sign/agree on when you register with that bank.

It is illegal to own/use bitcoin in some countries I believe russia is one that has banned its use.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Eons on December 22, 2014, 06:18:20 PM
The gambling site you won off is it registered as a gambling business? otherwise this could affect you in transfering the money as I'm certain if you are going to transfer this bitcoin into either property or too your bank questions will be asked and a investigation to find out if you are telling the truth will go ahead. if the gambling site is not registed and is operating illegally you might have some trouble. I'm not 100% sure though.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Equal Lightfoot on December 22, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
Gambling is tax free but, transfering that money to fiat isn't. thats the difference.  :)


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: gentlemand on December 22, 2014, 06:52:44 PM
If it were me I'd just suck up the tax for the sake of a quiet life. Having a pile of cash and blowing it around the world is one thing, but a property is rather hard to hide from the tax man. Depends how lax authorities are wherever you reside.

If I wanted to cash out an amount that large I'd forget about going directly on exchanges. Talk to a broker like SecondMarket to arrange a straightforward sale at an agreed price or some of the exchanges may have customers looking to buy a decent amount without the risk of slippage.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 22, 2014, 06:59:09 PM
Hello, I have just won a total of 250k worth of BTC, how would you go about it and transfer the money into an apartment, taxing as little as possible.

Can I get a loan?

This is the scenario:

- You have been homeless the past 2 years, with litte to no income(apart from betting)

- You have 50k in debt to variouse bills(small things) of that 50k about 40k is student loan.

- Apartment price is little expensive; 400k for a decent 2 room apartment.

- You have just found a job paying 10k a month(old nice friend offered)

How would you turn your life upside down? without risking to much from gov. eating your lucky money?

First of all, congratulations on winning the money.

Do NOT gamble with any of the money you've won. Think about it; $250,000 is worth years and years and years of hard work, and you can change your life with it. Don't waste it, please. Move it into another wallet if you have to.

Also, do NOT make or take out any loans. Do NOT buy that apartment. Hold on to the money for the next few months and don't make any major decisions until you have everything figured out. Taking out a loan worth nearly twice the amount of money you have is a bad idea.

You want to turn your life upside down? Do this.

The first thing I'd do in your situation is look into selling the coins as soon as possible. If the bitcoin price drops to $300, you've already lost 25 thousand dollars. If you're confident in bitcoin, keep 5% or so only.

Get an tax accountant/lawyer/professional to help you figure out taxes. They will also be able to figure out the best way to sell the coins. This will cost you a few hundred dollars probably. It's worth it. You'll lose much more just by holding bitcoin. And you'll save your ass in the long run.

Pay off all your debts, and put ALL the money away into savings.

Find a CHEAP apartment to live in for now.

Take the job your friend offered you. $120,000 a year is a lot. You won't earn a stable income through gambling (you probably already know this). And you can't live off $250k for the rest of your life.

Once everything has settled down a few months later, look into in safe investments: bonds, CDs, funds etc, maybe even a small amount of bitcoin.

To summarize: sell coins -> pay off debts -> rent apartment -> and DO NOT spend any large sums of money, no matter how tempting it is. You have enough money to change your life significantly; don't squander it.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: TheDonCherry on December 22, 2014, 07:05:54 PM
Bet it all on one game.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 22, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
Bet it all on one game.

I nominate this for worst advice of 2014


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Lauda on December 22, 2014, 07:26:31 PM
Bet it all on one game.

I nominate this for worst advice of 2014
All or nothing, why not?
Without risk, there is no profit.   ::)


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 22, 2014, 07:38:05 PM
Bet it all on one game.

I nominate this for worst advice of 2014
All or nothing, why not?
Without risk, there is no profit.   ::)

Go put a quarter million on one game right now then.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Lauda on December 22, 2014, 07:39:58 PM
All or nothing, why not?
Without risk, there is no profit.   ::)

Go put a quarter million on one game right now then.
Give me a quarter million first and I'll do so.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 22, 2014, 07:44:36 PM
All or nothing, why not?
Without risk, there is no profit.   ::)

Go put a quarter million on one game right now then.
Give me a quarter million first and I'll do so.

You're telling op to do it with HIS money, not someone else's. Is it that hard seeing the difference?


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Lauda on December 22, 2014, 07:48:15 PM
You're telling op to do it with HIS money, not someone else's. Is it that hard seeing the difference?
Notice the  ::)  
OP is in a difficult position.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 22, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
Thank you! I have worked hard and disiplined with this money, I wont waste it on gambling or hookers.

Coins dropped from 400 to 325 the last months, so I agree, change asap. But I have to do it in a secure way.

Like I said, I dont mind taxing, but I dont want the gov. eating too much of it. Gambling is tax free, so I shouldnt have to pay much in tax.

I have talked to a lawyer, and he said he could help me, but he had to hire people with expertize in crypto, he said that would cost me a lot. His other alternative was doing it "public" for pro-bono, but fuck that. I dont want to be part of commercial.


Here is my plan:

1: Pay off debt -50k, debt interest 10k?

Rest: 190k

Invest all the rest in property that I will be living at(save cost, living expenses, living comfortable in my own apartment)

The job im being offered, is also a gamble job, but this time im not gambling with my own money. The pay is not tax-able.

Sounds like you've got it all figured out. Paying off debt first is a good idea. Any other lawyers in your area who can help? And good luck! :)


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 22, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
You're telling op to do it with HIS money, not someone else's. Is it that hard seeing the difference?
Notice the  ::) 
OP is in a difficult position.

I still don't get the joke lol ::)

I guess I just have a really bad sense of humor.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: zyzzbrah on December 22, 2014, 09:52:39 PM
How did OP "won 250K"? thats what we should be asking  :P


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: saddambitcoin on December 23, 2014, 12:38:12 AM
Paying off the debt is of course a good idea.

Whatever you do, don't sell ALL the BTC. I would put at least 100 BTC in cold storage and forget about it. You don't want to be kicking yourself a couple years down the line when another bubble happens.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Bananana on December 24, 2014, 03:53:20 AM
Hello, I have just won a total of 250k worth of BTC, how would you go about it and transfer the money into an apartment, taxing as little as possible.

Can I get a loan?

This is the scenario:

- You have been homeless the past 2 years, with litte to no income(apart from betting)

- You have 50k in debt to variouse bills(small things) of that 50k about 40k is student loan.

- Apartment price is little expensive; 400k for a decent 2 room apartment.

- You have just found a job paying 10k a month(old nice friend offered)

How would you turn your life upside down? without risking to much from gov. eating your lucky money?

Since you said you have a job paying 10k a months, getting loan should be pretty easy for 400k apartment. Next you should really pay back all the bills, student loan etc especially if those charges high interest rate.

Then you can keep the remaining in bitcoin or whatever you like. Just make sure don't go to some gambling site :)


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: maurya78 on December 24, 2014, 04:01:02 AM
Stick it into a set of paper wallets and chill out, my man
Check again in 2020


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: b!z on December 24, 2014, 05:00:10 AM
Paying off the debt is of course a good idea.

Whatever you do, don't sell ALL the BTC. I would put at least 100 BTC in cold storage and forget about it. You don't want to be kicking yourself a couple years down the line when another bubble happens.


Im not selling them over night, it will happen during the 1s or 2nd month. Just the last day, have earned a couple of grand. Just like I lost over 30k last weeks.

Thats really what makes me want to sell. I like bitcoins, and I will be earning more bitcoins the coming years, (knock, knock, knock for not jinxing) thats why im not worried.

I just want my own place to live in. I hate renting or living at others place.

What I would do for a big loan to get a nice nothing fancy apartment.

I wouldn't get that $400k apartment right now


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: activebiz on December 24, 2014, 08:34:13 AM
you can spend the money on a bisiness. and transfer funds.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: bitbunnny on December 24, 2014, 09:12:45 AM
I'm just interested how you won it.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Lethn on December 24, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
I'd immediately invest it in passive income so I wouldn't have a problem with money for a long while :P dividends and such.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Exther2 on December 24, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Gambling is tax free but, transfering that money to fiat isn't. thats the difference.  :)
My opinion exactly, You could get the money sent to your bank and might be under some taxes /gambling issues  (if you are in the united states as you most likely are) or even problems with the exchanger with such a big amount.

I'd immediately invest it in passive income so I wouldn't have a problem with money for a long while :P dividends and such.

Passive income? Well, the best ting would be to let it sit in BTC. Take out in FIAT and let some fucker invest it for me would be just as stupid as some other mentioned, bet all on one match.

What I really was wondering about was how I could get the money without taxing half of it.
Would be pretty crazy to bet that much on a single match, but even if someone is willing to do THAT no bitcoin bookie would accept that bet anyway though (unless you are betting on something like 1.001)...


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: kralkral on December 24, 2014, 01:11:43 PM
in which site did you play?

i am not sure that any btc betting site can 250k usd without any problem...


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Morbid on December 24, 2014, 01:32:50 PM
buy gold and silver. while you still can.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Lauda on December 24, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
buy gold and silver. while you still can.

Why would I fucking buy gold and silver? This is not 2015 BC...?

Im pretty sure, only in the Emirates gold can be used to any thing.

This is legit money, I dont want to hide it. I want to tax minimal and get it out in my bank balance
Once we start getting gold from space (asteroids or such) it will be worth 0.1$ since the supply out there is probably limitless.


Title: Re: Turning life upside down, 250k.
Post by: Morbid on December 24, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
buy gold and silver. while you still can.

Why would I fucking buy gold and silver? This is not 2015 BC...?

Im pretty sure, only in the Emirates gold can be used to any thing.

This is legit money, I dont want to hide it. I want to tax minimal and get it out in my bank balance

you came here to get guidance. if being in this forum havent taught you what is money then good luck with that sort of attitude.