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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 06:20:12 AM



Title: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 06:20:12 AM
I need a  loan for a few days, collateral I have is clams


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: izanagi narukami on December 24, 2014, 06:28:06 AM
I need a  loan for a few days, collateral I have is clams

How much clam & for how much loan ?


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 06:29:32 AM
I need a  loan for a few days, collateral I have is clams

How much clam & for how much loan ?

I have 241 clams now, what can you offer?


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 06:30:06 AM
242.50 clams now


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Omikifuse on December 24, 2014, 07:29:06 AM
Why borrow money when you can make infinite money by beating the house edge:

"just wanna announce I had found a way to beat the house edge on dice sites. Beat true RNG, not a predicatable method the best method out there.

Im willing to disclose the method to dice owners first, for a bounty."

Also you said nothing about interest rate, time of payment, and value wanted


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 07:32:41 AM
caUse I wanna use my winning for something, and want my clams back


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 07:40:16 AM
I can offer you 0.2BTC. (I only have that much right now. Coincidentally all the remaining amount is in my clams.)

Collateral required is 100 CLAMS. On condition that I will sell it if the price falls below a price around 0.002 so as to recover the loan amount.

Or you can give collateral 150 to 200 CLAMS, with very low risk of liquidation.

Please offer the period and interest rate.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
I can offer you 0.2BTC. (I only have that much right now. Coincidentally all the remaining amount is in my clams.)

Collateral required is 100 CLAMS. On condition that I will sell it if the price falls below a price around 0.002 so as to recover the loan amount.

Or you can give collateral 150 to 200 CLAMS, with very low risk of liquidation.

Please offer the period and interest rate.


ll I understand what You mean, I invested most of my btc in clams at the moment as well


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 07:47:35 AM
I can offer you 0.2BTC. (I only have that much right now. Coincidentally all the remaining amount is in my clams.)

Collateral required is 100 CLAMS. On condition that I will sell it if the price falls below a price around 0.002 so as to recover the loan amount.

Or you can give collateral 150 to 200 CLAMS, with very low risk of liquidation.

Please offer the period and interest rate.


ll I understand what You mean, I invested most of my btc in clams at the moment as well

So do you need the loan? I can lend you partially 0.2BTC for around 100+ clams collateral.

Interest rate?
Period?
Address?

Loan will be made as soon as I receive the payment. Almost insatantly. Please agree on the terms.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 07:50:14 AM
I can borrow you the full amount. But I require the length of the loan before doing my offer

And no need to say you send first or escrow(who pays the escrow fees if you decide to use it depends on the terms we agree)


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 07:57:14 AM
send me your offers and ill review them i have 243 clams now
length of loan 5 to 7 days


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 08:01:24 AM
send me your offers and ill review them i have 243 clams now
length of loan 5 to 7 days

PM'd.

Condition: I will sell if price drops below an amount equal to the (total outstanding amount including interest / Number of clams) to recover the amount.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 08:09:28 AM
also to the ass up there, you need a certain bankroll to work with myy methods, If I had 200 btc I can fuck dice sites that dont cheat easy


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 08:14:55 AM
Offer:

I can lend you at most 0.4 BTC for all your clams as collateral(243). But I will sell them if the value of clams falls too much(around 2mBTC/clam or lower). You can borrow less and give more collateral, so the chances of the clams being liquidated  will be lower.

Repayment: 0.46 in 7 days at most(total: 15% interest rate)

You cover the escrow fees, if you would like to use escrow.



Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 08:15:20 AM
also to the ass up there, you need a certain bankroll to work with myy methods, If I had 200 btc I can fuck dice sites that dont cheat easy

Please inform me whether you have accepted or declined my offer?


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 08:16:20 AM
Offer:

I can lend you at most 0.4 BTC for all your clams as collateral(243). But I will sell them if the value of clams falls too much(around 2mBTC/clam or lower). You can borrow less and give more collateral, so the chances of the clams being liquidated  will be lower.

Repayment: 0.46 in 7 days at most(total: 15% interest rate)

You cover the escrow fees, if you would like to use escrow.


sorry guys but like the selling my clams part as I still will give ur btc back no matter if value rises or falls and my clams are worrth more then that value your offereing


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 08:18:41 AM
Offer:

I can lend you at most 0.4 BTC for all your clams as collateral(243). But I will sell them if the value of clams falls too much(around 2mBTC/clam or lower). You can borrow less and give more collateral, so the chances of the clams being liquidated  will be lower.

Repayment: 0.46 in 7 days at most(total: 15% interest rate)

You cover the escrow fees, if you would like to use escrow.


sorry guys but like the selling my clams part as I still will give ur btc back no matter if value rises or falls and my clams are worrth more then that value your offereing

If value rises you still will have your clams back. Even if they double or triple price.

Any offer of how much you willing to pay as interest?


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 08:19:24 AM
Offer:

I can lend you at most 0.4 BTC for all your clams as collateral(243). But I will sell them if the value of clams falls too much(around 2mBTC/clam or lower). You can borrow less and give more collateral, so the chances of the clams being liquidated  will be lower.

Repayment: 0.46 in 7 days at most(total: 15% interest rate)

You cover the escrow fees, if you would like to use escrow.

sorry guys but like the selling my clams part as I still will give ur btc back no matter if value rises or falls and my clams are worrth more then that value your offereing

What happens if CLAM falls to 0.001BTC and you run away with our money?

Come one we need some security.

Ok, I can lend you 0.2BTC (- tx fee, my balance is exactly that much) for 243 clams. I won't sell it or anything. Offer same as in PM.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
5 percent interest, im looking for .70 btc


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Magic8Ball on December 24, 2014, 08:37:22 AM
5 percent interest, im looking for .70 btc

You have already got two willing lenders, negotiate with them. If you are hoping to get collateral free loan then you can forget it.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: redsn0w on December 24, 2014, 08:38:56 AM
Hi guys, remember to use a reputable escrow for the collateral.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 08:46:00 AM
5 percent interest, im looking for .70 btc

Yeah, right. forget it.

a) As per PM, deal is 0.2 + 0.3 (in a few hours, as you seem in no hurry). For full collateral. 10%. Sell order ~0.002 (as writtn in detail before.)
b) I can agree for 0.2 loan. full collateral. 10%. No sell.

Can you please inform me of your acceptance or denial?
Please reply quickly.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 08:54:45 AM
last: 0.00290804 highest bid: 0.00290001 lowest ask: 0.00313093 lowest/highest 24h: 0.00252000/0.00375000 [poloniex]


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 08:59:38 AM
last: 0.00290804 highest bid: 0.00290001 lowest ask: 0.00313093 lowest/highest 24h: 0.00252000/0.00375000 [poloniex]

but clams are in downtrend last days.

One week ago they were worth around 0.005 each


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
last: 0.00290804 highest bid: 0.00290001 lowest ask: 0.00313093 lowest/highest 24h: 0.00252000/0.00375000 [poloniex]

I am taking it as a No deal since you are neither accepting nor declining it. ???

I have to go now. Will come back to check the thread.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 09:07:57 AM
My final offer is 0.4BTC and 10% interest rate days for 243 clams. Up 7 days for payment.

I will sell the collateral if price gets too close to 2mBTC/clam.

PM me if interested







Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
My final offer is 0.4BTC and 10% interest rate days for 243 clams. Up 7 days for payment.

I will sell the collateral if price gets too close to 2mBTC/clam.

PM me if interested

i need is .25 and wont give you all the clams if thats what ur offering for 243
  if it was .65 that would be fine, but that really low






Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
For 0.25, and 0.275 in return after a week, I ask for 140 clams as collateral. And I'll sell them if price too close to 2mBTC/each(will return you the difference if I get more than loan+interests).


Can't do better than it.

Going out now, PM me for more details if interested.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 09:39:28 AM
For 0.25, and 0.275 in return after a week, I ask for 140 clams as collateral. And I'll sell them if price too close to 2mBTC/each(will return you the difference if I get more than loan+interests).


Can't do better than it.

Going out now, PM me for more details if interested.

]

ok who can escrow this deal?


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Magic8Ball on December 24, 2014, 09:47:20 AM
For 0.25, and 0.275 in return after a week, I ask for 140 clams as collateral. And I'll sell them if price too close to 2mBTC/each(will return you the difference if I get more than loan+interests).


Can't do better than it.

Going out now, PM me for more details if interested.

]

ok who can escrow this deal?


I can if you both agree. I have to know where CLAMS is listed, I will be holding it on an exchange.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 09:49:13 AM
Tomatoecage let me know if you can do this deal, Ill give access to my clam wallet or exchange details


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Malin Keshar on December 24, 2014, 09:58:13 AM
For 0.25, and 0.275 in return after a week, I ask for 140 clams as collateral. And I'll sell them if price too close to 2mBTC/each(will return you the difference if I get more than loan+interests).


Can't do better than it.

Going out now, PM me for more details if interested.

]

ok who can escrow this deal?


I can if you both agree. I have to know where CLAMS is listed, I will be holding it on an exchange.

As far I know CLAMS are listed in Poloniex only:

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_clam


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 09:58:40 AM
For 0.25, and 0.275 in return after a week, I ask for 140 clams as collateral. And I'll sell them if price too close to 2mBTC/each(will return you the difference if I get more than loan+interests).


Can't do better than it.

Going out now, PM me for more details if interested.

]

ok who can escrow this deal?


I can if you both agree. I have to know where CLAMS is listed, I will be holding it on an exchange.

It is listed on both poloniex and cryptsy. (main exchanges.)
Use poloniex because it has much higher CLAM volume.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
you know this is about .38 btc im giving out




Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Magic8Ball on December 24, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
you know this is about .38 btc im giving out

This should not be an issue since the CLAMS will be held in escrow and you will receive them after the loan is repaid. If I were you I would rather put a lot more in collateral rather than risk a margin call as these markets tends to be very volatile. To that effect ndnhc's second offer would be my preference.

Draw up the exact terms and conditions for liquidation with your escrow. Make sure to put a clause in where you will get some time to react instead of a forced liquidation, which would give you the option to either put more in the collateral or make other arrangements.


Title: Re: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: blg425 on December 24, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
I thought op was joking about clams, but seriously can one provide a link about what clams are? Never heard of it in this manner.



Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: duckydonald on December 24, 2014, 10:49:23 AM
price of clams is about to be pumped to 0.004 btc as there are going to be alot of people trying to grab cheap clams


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: ndnh on December 24, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
price of clams is about to be pumped to 0.004 btc as there are going to be alot of people trying to grab cheap clams

I hope so. But you can never be sure.  ;)
It could hit 0.002 before that, and you could lose it. Happened to me, margin trading btc. Fell, force liquidated, and rose up to 1000.



I thought op was joking about clams, but seriously can one provide a link about what clams are? Never heard of it in this manner.

You are missing out. check out just-dice.com
You will get all info there.


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: jaberwock on December 24, 2014, 06:19:00 PM
Please contact redsn0w, Tomatocage or any of the top 5 escrows:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0


terms are: at lest 140 clams as escrow and sell them if the value of the collateral hits near the payment value + interests.

Can't afford other option because clams are too new


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Dogedigital on December 24, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
Do you still need this or have you reached an agreement with someone else?


Title: Re: Loan needed have collateral
Post by: Dogedigital on December 24, 2014, 10:24:39 PM
If not, I propose:

.7BTC for 7 days.

.805BTC paid back (15%)

242 Clams as collateral.

use Redsn0w as escrow