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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: Serge on June 29, 2012, 05:22:13 AM



Title: ASICs this year?
Post by: Serge on June 29, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
since we've got mining speculation subforum...


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: Serge on June 29, 2012, 05:37:47 AM
i voted "maybe" although i'm pretty optimistic it could happen this year

disregarding previous BFL's delivery track record, given that BitForce SC chip is only in final development stage there's great potential that shipping out ASIC powered gear could be severely delayed into the next year


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: TechCF on June 29, 2012, 11:39:49 AM
This sounds like a bet for the Bets of Bitcoin site.


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: Kluge on June 29, 2012, 11:50:47 AM
Not physically, but I'm sure BFL & Giga will post plenty of pics for us.  :-[


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on June 29, 2012, 04:09:36 PM
It was mentioned in another thread, but I'll mention it again in here as to why I chose "no."

When BFL came out with the singles, the only technology they designed and manufactured in house was the power circuitry. When it came time to release, which parts were insufficient to run the device? The power circuitry. In fact, their specifications were off by a factor of 4 and required a total rework.

Now you're probably thinking, "They've learned their lesson and won't make the same mistakes twice!" And that may be true, but now BFL is not just designing and manufacturing the power circuitry. If there is some kind of issue with the ASIC chips, a respin will be required. If that respin changes other specifications, then more work will have to be done in order to make the device functional. The fact that this company is now developing a process and technology that they have never delved into before just brings up potential issues to me. :shrug:


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: Serge on June 30, 2012, 04:05:44 AM
yes    14 (42.4%)
no     14 (42.4%)
maybe 5 (15.2%)

interesting split of votes


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: Bitinvestor on June 30, 2012, 06:52:32 AM
Well, they started the first sentence of their press release with a complete lie: Butterfly Labs (BF Labs Inc.), a market leader in microprocessor design ...

http://news.yahoo.com/butterfly-labs-announces-next-generation-asic-lineup-054626776.html

What makes you people think that the remainder is any more accurate?


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: SlaveInDebt on June 30, 2012, 07:25:28 AM
No. For any given time of release/shipment quote BFL gives, you must add ~66.6%.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/pre-order-form/
Quote
Delivery: Units are shipped within four to six weeks from the date of purchase.
However, your delivery time may be significantly less depending on the production group your order falls in.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77796.0


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: Nachtwind on June 30, 2012, 07:36:38 AM
I voted "no" but think "yes"

I think we will see some sort of ASIC like stuff pop up this year but sure as hell not wit the specifications BFL claimed.


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: squall1066 on July 06, 2012, 08:22:43 AM
I voted "no" but think "yes"

dont worry, I helped you out by voting "yes" but thinking "no"


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: runeks on July 19, 2012, 08:44:59 PM
i voted "maybe" although i'm pretty optimistic it could happen this year

disregarding previous BFL's delivery track record, given that BitForce SC chip is only in final development stage there's great potential that shipping out ASIC powered gear could be severely delayed into the next year
Where did you get this information? I'm having a hard time finding anything official from BFL.

EDIT: Just to clarify: I'm having a hard time finding anything official with regards to development progress.


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: VelvetLeaf on July 20, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Yes. If you think of it like business person, BFL will try their hardest to release ASIC before the reward halving occurs (Dec 9), to attract more potential buyers.
But of course, if you have your own agenda, biased or hate BFL so much for their previous treatment to you, you'll instantly vote No in this poll.


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: MrTeal on July 20, 2012, 02:27:48 AM
This sounds like a bet for the Bets of Bitcoin site.
Already there.
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=446


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: Serge on July 21, 2012, 05:06:18 PM
i voted "maybe" although i'm pretty optimistic it could happen this year

disregarding previous BFL's delivery track record, given that BitForce SC chip is only in final development stage there's great potential that shipping out ASIC powered gear could be severely delayed into the next year
Where did you get this information? I'm having a hard time finding anything official from BFL.

EDIT: Just to clarify: I'm having a hard time finding anything official with regards to development progress.

Taken straight from their site here: http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/

Quote
Pre Order List
Performance: 3.5, 40 & 1,000 GH/s

The BitForce SC chip is now in final stage development.  Initial product delivery is scheduled for October, 2012.



Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on July 21, 2012, 05:24:38 PM
Yes. If you think of it like business person, BFL will try their hardest to release ASIC before the reward halving occurs (Dec 9), to attract more potential buyers.
But of course, if you have your own agenda, biased or hate BFL so much for their previous treatment to you, you'll instantly vote No in this poll.
Actually, if you are a dreamer, and have faith in a company that was previously wrong, then you'll vote yes. If you're a realist who sees the entire situation as it is, then you'll vote no.


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: finkleshnorts on July 21, 2012, 05:35:36 PM
Yes. If you think of it like business person, BFL will try their hardest to release ASIC before the reward halving occurs (Dec 9), to attract more potential buyers.
But of course, if you have your own agenda, biased or hate BFL so much for their previous treatment to you, you'll instantly vote No in this poll.

BFL has enormous incentive to convince customers (and themselves) that they will be the first ASIC to hit the market. They know they make bank on preorders. With that in mind, October is probably pretty early. When their product is finally released, they will continue to sell to those who waited it out, as long as the product is good. The preorder crowd will be disappointed, but their money is already locked down. I would surprised, impressed, and excited if the preorders are filled before the big day.


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: VelvetLeaf on July 21, 2012, 11:55:05 PM
Yes. If you think of it like business person, BFL will try their hardest to release ASIC before the reward halving occurs (Dec 9), to attract more potential buyers.
But of course, if you have your own agenda, biased or hate BFL so much for their previous treatment to you, you'll instantly vote No in this poll.
Actually, if you are a dreamer, and have faith in a company that was previously wrong, then you'll vote yes. If you're a realist who sees the entire situation as it is, then you'll vote no.

I think you're the one being dreamer there.
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=446


Title: Re: ASICs this year?
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on July 22, 2012, 12:08:46 AM
But mom, if the bets of bitcoin are in favor of it coming this year, then it just has to be true!