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Yesterday, the wallet count went up from 1300 to 3300. Due to this drastic change, we would like the community’s input on how we should continue. Organized above is a poll of all the options we could come up with, please take a few minutes and decide which way you want to go.

Funds remaining in the faucet: 5480133.08189906 (http://104.131.108.117:3003/address/Fat1S9SiWmNtb73wVYHGoBUv5gnLVyKjZf)

Options thrown out:
1) Burn faucet funds, increase POS payout until we are at a 20 million supply again. This is exactly the same as just burning the faucet since under POS percentage of market cap owned stays the same (your coins will be worth exactly the same amount if you stake 10,000% and so does the entire network).

i really agree with this great idea

BULLSHIT.

You - THE DEVELOPERS - have scammed many coins from this faucet.
Yet now you want the "remaining" funds to go to proof of stake - meaning the most will go to the ones that have the most - that is YOU and the ones that cheated who are obviously voting on this.

NO.

This is bullshit.

This anti-scam coin is run by a scam team which has scammed the most coins.

It does not make sense, because 2 days ago the wallets were max 900.
900x50 (which was NOT 50) x 5 days x 24 hours (which was NEVER 24 hours) =  5.400.000

Now checking back at my wallet from the day this started I did NOT receive more than 31 coins.

SO WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU SHITTING??

Let this fucker roll the way you had it played and stop scamming coins from your own faucet distribution.

Then release source code and put your scam coin on an exchange.

Then watch as the scammers cash in (you included).

That being said stop crying like a little lying girl accusing others of scam.
You are no better.

PS: Are you serious by asking the community on how to run YOUR business?
LAME, to say the least.
SAD, to be more precise.

How many coins have you "salvaged" out of this?

Pretty safe to say 23094823049 above is pissed off that he can't suck up funds with all of his wallets anymore  :D

Burn the coins.

Alright, so since you are clearly under the impression people are guilty until proven innocent I will attempt to explain why you are wrong on many fronts here. First off, there is no reason to believe we have scammed the faucet as we have shown throughout the process all wallet downloads and have been as open as possible. Your math here does not make sense: 900x50 (which was NOT 50) x 5 days x 24 hours (which was NEVER 24 hours) =  5.400.000. The faucet ran for ~4.7 - 5 days only missing a few payouts every now and then, leading our current balance to be around 10000000-4.7*24*40000 = 5488000. Additionally, many people have received their payments once the auto-restart scripts kicked in. You can verify all of this on the public ledger at http://104.131.108.117:3003/. Before accusing us of being a scam group, come up with solid evidence other than "YOU ARE SCAMMING BECAUSE I THINK SO."

Well, thanks for explaining.

May I ask what took you so long to take ANY measures?

You have been warned days ago that your faucet has been breached by Fenghush.
Apart from that I have stated that brainless has scammed around 150K of your coins.
Yet, I was called hateful in the OP.

What made you change your mind now?

And yes, when it comes to this, you are guilty until you prove your self innocent.
Sorry, you have NOT given ANY reason to your members - from which you expect to back you that you are any bit serious about this.
Especially after you KNEW that you were breached and just looked the other way.

NOW, as to not have to place another post, it is clear that ANYONE that claims "burn it" has a lot in "stake" here  ;)

The dev team included.

PROVE ME WRONG.

If I was you I would check my (as in mine) posts carefully.

That being said, nobody seems to have answered my question:
Why does this wallet require SO MUCH fucking processing power?

people got free coins and they are complaining... wtf. just burnt the coins and make this coin extra rare

distributed CPU mining for a single benefactor?

I don't know what you're talking about, I don't have this problem
https://i.imgur.com/lQ3cij1.png

But, then again, my staking option is turned off...

You may have trouble reading, but we said in this thread that since there are 2000 new wallets in one hour we decided to stop it as an emergency measure. Earlier, the ratio of wallets running to wallets downloaded was fair enough so we let it be instead of issuing a hard fork to correct a small issue. In regards to the CPU usage, we are unsure why it is causing problems for some and will look into it, but you can verify it yourself in less than 5 days once we release the source code.

(Burn) the faucet coins imo 585985875 whatever his name is is crying because he only just got xamount of wallets up and running and has not had a chance to cheat lol

Unlucky gramps

vote for agree burn the faucet coins

and it mean we are ready to go to exchange ?

lol everyone is so much of a rush to dump, what is it with getting it on the exchange straight away? I am curious  ::)

you have a change for delete adress created last 5 day?

if you can, maybe fix source code or find another way than.

Yeah right.
It will be so rare that it will disappear once it hits the exchanges.


Translation:

Fuck you and the shitty find. check out what I wrote at the end and get in line. You just sit around and bother with shit-coins. Wait and see what happens once it hits the exchanges.


That was sent to me by the brainless in a pm.

Yeah, you have a real thing going on here.

Then again why should you care if someone scams an "anti-scam" coin.
It was built by the scam team to fight scam.

Do you see the irony in this.

Oh, and before any other scammer that wants this burned say that I didn't get enough,
I got around 3K of this scam coin, however I believe it was a waste of resources.
Thank God I was mining more serious coins at the same time.

That being said,
screw your scam coin.
I will dump your shitty coin as soon as it hits the exchanges much like the scammers that has followed your scam.
Sure the only difference is that I got peanuts, but you got identified as a scam coin/team.

Have fun and happy new year.

EDIT: YES BURN THE FUCKING COINS
AND LIST IT IN AN EXCHANGE

I voted 'other' because I don't really see a solution in the other choices. Then again, I not really high-tech.

The other could be to:
Place your scam find coins as a bounty to find the ones who scammed the rest....

Is it doable?

NO.

But you can start from the development team, who apparently didn't think it was a biggy having 5-6 members with 50-100 wallets each  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Yeah it only became a problem when others realized that the team was in it and didn't really give a shit...

Besides who used this method, as long as there is no decent protection against this method then this form of distribution is crippled and can only be suspended. Since this method has been used we can no longer speak of a fair distribution so these imo 'so-called patches' are more like an offer you can't refuse because you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

On the other hand, if this anti-scam coin is truly created by a team of scammers purposely trying undermine the efforts of anti-scammers offering free distribution and the outlook of a better (cryp-)tomorrow, then this party has been one big red herring everyone has been following, exactly as programmed predicted.

I think it's more important to be aware of that and ask who's really responsible. This is Cryptoland, where sometimes there's a prize behind door #2 but mostly there are no doors.

An anti-scam team let's things flow because it is no biggy at the time  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Do you see the irony in this?

Just close the faucet and move on. Put the rest of remaining coins as a bounty.

Lets Look at the bright side;

There were going to be scammers, everyone knew it. And every cryptocoin has its bagholders. Those cheaters were not actually cheating. They were smart and now they are hodling bags. Probably they are going to dump it the moment this coin arrives at exchg site anyways.

Move on.

Hmmm ... wow ... guys and gals ...

I haven't been on the the forum in just a few days ...

And ... lots of sad things are happening here ...

I just hope that people here in our FindCoin community ... find in himself/herself ... deep inside of their good heart ...

The will power of honesty and truthfulness ...

I did cast my vote ...

And ... guys/gals ... just let it flow ...

For sure ... we, as a community will find a way and the right path to walk-on ...

these accusations are false
I also have 2 million find for sale (10 satoshi each)

You do realize that we can ask ANY mod to go through my PMs and verify that right?
It does NOT matter if you have deleted it from yours.
You have already sent it to me and that's that.

Anyways, I couldn't give a shit anymore.
This is a scam coin to begin with.
Do whatever the fuck you want with it.
Just be quick about it so that I can be on my way.

Thank you.

just let it go m8 you cant do anything about it. your are being childish and immature. if you dont like free coins send your coins to me and just move on with your miserable life.

I don't think you got my message.

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE!

JUST LIST YOUR SCAM COIN ON AN EXCHANGE SO THAT I CAN CASH OUT MINE AND I WILL MOVE ON TO MORE SERIOUS COINS.

Do you understand that or shall I spell it to you like you are 5?

Thank you.

Have a nice day  :)

UP for Vote!

Release the source code

release the cracken

Totally agree with you  ;)

WTF????

I don't see the problem here, Stop the Faucet and release the source.

let the coin function as it is intended.

the very fact that it is POS will keep it going, and as far as I'm concerned its ideals are what matter, if it creates a way to uncover the real scammers out there then its worth in btc terms is debatable.

too many times have I invested in certain cloud type enterprises that are found to be lacking in any scruples when it comes to grabbing as much as possible for themselves.

There is still good to come out of this coin if people will just give it a chance.

There are far too many Pump/Dump idiots out there, yes we want to all make a bit of profit, but if this shit keeps happening there will be no Crypto World, the rest of the world will just laugh and say "I Told You So".

That "small issue" which you deemed unworthy for a fork was most likely the reason you had to stop the faucet. I'm sorry but you guys are clueless, you were working hard to get this going, I'm sure about that, but you were clearly improvising as issues came along without much thought and in the end you dropped the ball and now you have a bunch of annoyed brats calling you scammers. My advise is to drop the whole thing, start from scratch, do a beta test, then relaunch with a solid platform in a month or so, if you need any help I'm always online.

If it works it's don't fix it doesn't cut it with crypto where prying eyes are looking for easy pray. You need to think about how your platform can fail rather than what it would take to work

+1
I support this fully.

For not giving a shit you sure do spend alot of time giving a shit  ;D also i am glad you support him calling you a brat because that is what you are a strange one at that, make up your mind gramps are you in or are you out.

LOL

True, and I have no problem being called a brat  ;)
I know I am not cheating, so it is "fair" to call me a brat for complaining about cheaters.

That being said, I am definitely in if this is done properly.
Otherwise I will cash out the little bit I have and never look at this coin again.

its clear what this community needs

You have claimed in previous posts that you had started to exploit/cheat which is fine to be in that category, but just because you get stopped before you really got going shouldn’t make you so angry buddy, remember your quote? cheaters do not deserve a single coin? well you managed to get a few hundred  ;D be happy.

Let's try and stay positive i now believe this coin can help bring some of the crap out there to light and protect new/old innocent investors in alt coin from losing money, imo the price is irrelevant as long as it's enough reward for people to want to call the bad guys out.

Mistakes were made here for sure but we are all human and we all make them it does not make us all scammers, just human.

This time i really do wish you a good day and a happy peaceful new year please chill out and maybe think of ideas to help the project, working together it can be done properly,

Take care dude

 

I actually wrote a response to this.

But I deleted it....

You know why?

I will not feed the troll, (nor the cheaters either).

Can you two STFU?

You are not helping the situation.

I do agree with you on the point that the issue could have lead to the faucet's end, but you have to consider what it actually was. The people who actually have enough power and know-how to execute an attack on the faucet could have easily monitored outgoing connections and found that URL. What we had to do was implement something that verifies the wallet is indeed a wallet (maybe a key hard coded into it that an attacker couldn't take), but the problem there is that there are still ways to easily exploit it such as getting a VPS. For now, what's done is done and until the 2,000 wallets came on in an hour, our faucet was distributing on par with the expectations we had from the download count. Therefore, our most logical solution (I believe) would be to drop the Proof of Faucet idea and move on, it's clear that the old implementation of FindYouCoin didn't survive and since our distribution is fair at the moment simply burning the coins should suffice. If there's a reason to relaunch here, I don't see it as Proof of Faucet cannot be fixed to stop a VPS.

completely agree with quad

Sure you can stop VPS, just don't credit requests made from non residential ISP ranges, there are ready lists available, or like I said earlier you can just use the maxmind api which is meant for order fraud prevention https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip2-anonymous-ip-database. And if SSL is implemented correctly it will be quite a task to figure out what requests i.e. secret handshake is made between the wallet and faucet server, at least not without some really in-depth wallet debugging.

I'll bet you 10BTC nobody bothered to run 2000 instances of the wallet, the requests came directly to the faucet url from a botnet.

Would you go and put you dick in the ass of a donkey?

Then you have your answer little boy

Burn the faucet funds, reduce our market cap and continue with development (no more coins will be generated other than the 25% POS). Release source code.

+1

I am absolute noob but my vote is for this ;)

I wouldn't take that bet :). I looked over the maxmind API and I think its just what we needed, but my biggest point was that we distributed fairly up until now and the most elegant solution would be to burn the funds. Do you agree with this?

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
Intel G3220  about 4-9% CPU time ( POS enabled )

I vote for #1

I vote number one burn the coins, Release source code and move on

VPS is unfair? LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL? I know there are a lot of fucking jealous guys here. You devs are stupid and narrow mind.

There is an option to vote for keeping the faucet on by the logic that VPS = hashrate. Does that not apply to you?

just end it allready

Yeah, just burn the witch, eh funds already! ;D

this coin can go very far if we take good care of it

I have said it before and i will say it again, who is jealous of a few dollars VPS? I gained more coins than you clowns for 1/2 of the price anyway i am so jealous  ;D

As for the devs not bending over to help you get a couple more k Find threw the faucet, instead they continue to be Fair and let the community choose, wow they are stupid and narrow minded for this aha loser stop crying.

Your post is one of a spoilt brat and i am glad your not getting anymore Find to dump. Jealous lololol!!

tba no real options, cheaters killed the coin, sorry for the work the dev team put in. however who'd invest in a coin that cheaters gamed the distribution  >:(

Not knowing too much about this coin, I voted to burn 'em.  Some in the thread suggest this coins distribution was gamed, so not sure how that will factor into it.  Best of luck.

If burn I lost my coins collected? It´s so many hours with an open wallet spending light.

no. burn refers to the coins yet not distributed. Guys/Gals, please read things before posting. It is all written here at the top of the page.

burn

burn them will be fair if i didnt know that all thjose chaters already have his coins, so burn is fair but what about all of them who already cheat it?

Im not sure but maybe there is a better solution about it, maybe something like distribute the rest of coins between all of those wallets who didnt cheat, i mean before you guys discover all those fake wallets vps.

also lets make a richlist and observe the issue. then burn coins. exchange can wait for now

How would you like to discover someone using VPS/VPN? If that was so easy to do, I believe we would already have a valid solution in place.

By looking up the AS name of the wallet or attacker's botnet requesting IP
Then decide if you should credit the requesting IP by cross matching the AS name against a list of residential ISP AS names or have a list of black listed AS names for which you will deny coins.

Thanks. I read it but it is not enough clear for me.

My vote is burn.

good, but then you could reject payments to users who are on AS that you consider blacklisted or that are in the non-residential list, although they may be perfectly valid (first case quite unlikely, but second?). Would that improve our notion of fairness? Don't know, just asking the question.

I vote other...

Don't burn them, just send them to me!!!

FVc5DbV9MBUJQqMCgxLZVrJ9S3jdx3u1nC

LOL  ;)

i think the vote should just end. its pretty clear what is going to happen