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Title: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 04, 2015, 06:39:54 PM
Like the title says.  I don't pay for hydro so I'm not worried about my consumption at all.  I want to mine out of my apartment so noise and hashrate are my only 2 concerns.  What would be the best I could buy that is quiet and under $1k


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: cxboyminer on January 04, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
Like the title says.  I don't pay for hydro so I'm not worried about my consumption at all.  I want to mine out of my apartment so noise and hashrate are my only 2 concerns.  What would be the best I could buy that is quiet and under $1k

antminers arent that bad... not totally silent thou.. but it's acceptable!


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: LordPaco on January 04, 2015, 06:45:26 PM
I think your most powerful miner will be the most efficient ones as well, Moore's Law and all that.


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 04, 2015, 07:03:47 PM
I think your most powerful miner will be the most efficient ones as well, Moore's Law and all that.

Well maybe not necessarily the most powerful.  Best bang for buck so to speak while trying to make sure I don't fall off the end of the curve in 3 months.  

I bought 2 ant S1 with a corsair rm850 to get started.  I hope/plan to ROI on the S1s (not power supply) after 60-90 days (assuming 15% average diff increase) and now that I've got my feet wet and have learnt so much I'm trying to line up what my next move would be.

Please don't say, " just buy coins. Don't mine."  I'm doing this for fun and only hope to have a hobby that is break-even.

At this Diff on my current pool I'm averaging .004 BTC/day, so 0.0000111/GH.  My thoughts are that 1) I can stay a few generations behind and as long as I'm purchasing at $0.25/GH (or 0.000877 BTC/GH) My ROI would be not too far out each time I upgrade I keep a low risk.

Example

buy Ant S3 on ebay for $110 USD and just swap out one of my S1s, then do that again a month or so later.  The thing I hear about the S3 is that it's loud.

Or 2) Get a Spondoolie SP20 for $425 (again $0.25/GH) and invest in a second rm 850 to power it up.  Again I hear it's loud but now I'll have some hashing power behind me and I won't be too worried about falling off the end of the curve for at least a little bit.

or 3) Ant C1


Is 1 Sp20 louder than 2 S1/S3s?


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: philipma1957 on January 04, 2015, 07:09:14 PM
antminer s-3 with this fan

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


will result in near silence .  One fan needs a slight mod to the edge of it. 

I have two from my s-5 sitting in a box.

 they work okay on the s-5 due to the open  case design ,but  they work great on the s-3.







Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 04, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
antminer s-3 with this fan

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


will result in near silence .  One fan needs a slight mod to the edge of it. 

I have two from my s-5 sitting in a box.

 they work okay on the s-5 due to the open  case design ,but  they work great on the s-3.







Would they work with the S1?  The S1s I bought don't have stock fans with PWM they are hard wired in and always run at full clip.  I wanted to change the fans out but no point in investing $ on an S1.  I can put them in my room with an open window (good old Canadian winters) and keep the internal temp at 25C but can't sleep with the fan running 100%.   It wouldn't be a bad investment if I'm going to use them on something else later

I'd be willing to buy them off you if they have PWM.


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: philipma1957 on January 04, 2015, 07:25:56 PM
antminer s-3 with this fan

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


will result in near silence .  One fan needs a slight mod to the edge of it. 

I have two from my s-5 sitting in a box.

 they work okay on the s-5 due to the open  case design ,but  they work great on the s-3.







Would they work with the S1?  The S1s I bought don't have stock fans with PWM they are hard wired in and always run at full clip.  I wanted to change the fans out but no point in investing $ on an S1.  I can put them in my room with an open window (good old Canadian winters) and keep the internal temp at 25C but can't sleep with the fan running 100%.   It wouldn't be a bad investment if I'm going to use them on something else later

I'd be willing to buy them off you if they have PWM.

  shipping them to canada is costly I am in the states. 


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 04, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
antminer s-3 with this fan

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


will result in near silence .  One fan needs a slight mod to the edge of it. 

I have two from my s-5 sitting in a box.

 they work okay on the s-5 due to the open  case design ,but  they work great on the s-3.

Would they work with the S1?  The S1s I bought don't have stock fans with PWM they are hard wired in and always run at full clip.  I wanted to change the fans out but no point in investing $ on an S1.  I can put them in my room with an open window (good old Canadian winters) and keep the internal temp at 25C but can't sleep with the fan running 100%.   It wouldn't be a bad investment if I'm going to use them on something else later

I'd be willing to buy them off you if they have PWM.

  shipping them to canada is costly I am in the states. 

Sorry, forgot to mention.  I live in a border town so I can pick them up in the US and bring them across myself.  There's a shipping warehouse that we get stuff sent to.

How much would fair price plus shipping to 605 Ridge Street, Sault Ste. Marie, MI 49783, United States be?


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 04, 2015, 07:50:05 PM
antminer s-3 with this fan

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


will result in near silence .  One fan needs a slight mod to the edge of it. 

I have two from my s-5 sitting in a box.

 they work okay on the s-5 due to the open  case design ,but  they work great on the s-3.

Do you happen to know the CFM on the fans?


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: Biodom on January 04, 2015, 08:55:18 PM
I think your most powerful miner will be the most efficient ones as well, Moore's Law and all that.

Well maybe not necessarily the most powerful.  Best bang for buck so to speak while trying to make sure I don't fall off the end of the curve in 3 months.  

I bought 2 ant S1 with a corsair rm850 to get started.  I hope/plan to ROI on the S1s (not power supply) after 60-90 days (assuming 15% average diff increase) and now that I've got my feet wet and have learnt so much I'm trying to line up what my next move would be.

Please don't say, " just buy coins. Don't mine."  I'm doing this for fun and only hope to have a hobby that is break-even.

At this Diff on my current pool I'm averaging .004 BTC/day, so 0.0000111/GH.  My thoughts are that 1) I can stay a few generations behind and as long as I'm purchasing at $0.25/GH (or 0.000877 BTC/GH) My ROI would be not too far out each time I upgrade I keep a low risk.

Example

buy Ant S3 on ebay for $110 USD and just swap out one of my S1s, then do that again a month or so later.  The thing I hear about the S3 is that it's loud.

Or 2) Get a Spondoolie SP20 for $425 (again $0.25/GH) and invest in a second rm 850 to power it up.  Again I hear it's loud but now I'll have some hashing power behind me and I won't be too worried about falling off the end of the curve for at least a little bit.

or 3) Ant C1


Is 1 Sp20 louder than 2 S1/S3s?

1. S3 are not loud in comparison with S5 and Sp20. S5 is the loudest, followed by SP20.
2. One SP20 is louder than three S3, but less loud than S5 (at least when Sp20 is down-clocked to 1.35 TH)
3. where are you getting the prices that you quote, especially for SP20? The price is $498 per each SP20 if you order 3.


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 04, 2015, 09:17:19 PM
I think your most powerful miner will be the most efficient ones as well, Moore's Law and all that.

Well maybe not necessarily the most powerful.  Best bang for buck so to speak while trying to make sure I don't fall off the end of the curve in 3 months.  

I bought 2 ant S1 with a corsair rm850 to get started.  I hope/plan to ROI on the S1s (not power supply) after 60-90 days (assuming 15% average diff increase) and now that I've got my feet wet and have learnt so much I'm trying to line up what my next move would be.

Please don't say, " just buy coins. Don't mine."  I'm doing this for fun and only hope to have a hobby that is break-even.

At this Diff on my current pool I'm averaging .004 BTC/day, so 0.0000111/GH.  My thoughts are that 1) I can stay a few generations behind and as long as I'm purchasing at $0.25/GH (or 0.000877 BTC/GH) My ROI would be not too far out each time I upgrade I keep a low risk.

Example

buy Ant S3 on ebay for $110 USD and just swap out one of my S1s, then do that again a month or so later.  The thing I hear about the S3 is that it's loud.

Or 2) Get a Spondoolie SP20 for $425 (again $0.25/GH) and invest in a second rm 850 to power it up.  Again I hear it's loud but now I'll have some hashing power behind me and I won't be too worried about falling off the end of the curve for at least a little bit.

or 3) Ant C1


Is 1 Sp20 louder than 2 S1/S3s?

1. S3 are not loud in comparison with S5 and Sp20. S5 is the loudest, followed by SP20.
2. One SP20 is louder than three S3, but less loud than S5 (at least when Sp20 is down-clocked to 1.35 TH)
3. where are you getting the prices that you quote, especially for SP20? The price is $498 per each SP20 if you order 3.


I'm looking at buying used.  Ebay has some good deals from people rushing to upgrade to the new units with the best hash/watt ratio.  I'm not worried about power consumption so I'm planning on taking advantage of that.

Before the S5s were announces S3s were solid at $200 but in as little as a couple weeks they're already plentiful at $155 http://www.ebay.com/itm/201256643156?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/201256643156?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) I bet he'd at least consider $200 for 2 units or

I'd bet that this trend is only going to continue. 


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: klondike_bar on January 05, 2015, 01:44:27 AM
IMO, if efficiency and size (not necessarily weight) are not a factor, I would ABSOLUTELY 100% reccomend the BTCGarden AM-V1 1.2TH miner.

it is quite large, about 5x the size of an antminer, but it uses 8 fans that run at very low speeds to provide airflow with almost no noise. Its about the same volume as the EVGA 1300 G2 powering it. (It needs about 1400W for 1200GH)


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: grn on January 05, 2015, 01:46:56 AM
Quietest for hash rate would be Bitmain C1


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: dunand on January 05, 2015, 03:06:21 AM
Antminer C1.

I really hope Bitmain design a new C2 with the S5 chip.


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: iglasses on January 05, 2015, 03:22:18 AM
Bitcoin miners themselves are completely silent, it's the fans & power supplies that make all the noise!

I would think that with a little planning and testing you could quiet down ANY miner by purchasing high efficiency low noise fans and fitting them in.  Also if noise is the only concern I would think about oil immersion & or water cooling.  Either way some type of liquid cooling is probably your best bet since it will reduce the need for fans.

Good luck!

ig


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: Zelek Uther on January 05, 2015, 03:29:44 AM
KnCMiner Neptunes are very quiet. You might be able to get a good second-hand deal. Make sure you get PCIe 2-to-1 cables.


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 05, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
Antminer C1.

I really hope Bitmain design a new C2 with the S5 chip.

4x S5 chip would be quite nice


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: DeltaMining on January 06, 2015, 05:32:35 AM
DeltaMining (Canada) will be releasing a couple of extremely quiet miners (~19 dBa), but generally inefficient (1W/GH, BAT Minion Chip) miners in the coming 1-2 weeks. Won't go into full scale production because much more efficient miners are already out there in the market. If you are interested, visit our website at www.deltaminers.com and check out our "about us" page to see how we are different from other ASIC companies :)

Happy New Year,
DeltaMiner-Adam


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: xstr8guy on January 06, 2015, 06:04:17 AM
KnCMiner Neptunes are very quiet. You might be able to get a good second-hand deal. Make sure you get PCIe 2-to-1 cables.

And if you're not worried about electricity cost, the older KNC Jupiter/Super Jupiters are virtually silent. And you can find them on eBay for a song.


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: Bananana on January 07, 2015, 12:58:34 PM
Like the title says.  I don't pay for hydro so I'm not worried about my consumption at all.  I want to mine out of my apartment so noise and hashrate are my only 2 concerns.  What would be the best I could buy that is quiet and under $1k

Buy antminer S5 and a quite fan. Replace the fan on antminer S5 and you have a quite high hash machine :)


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: ensano on January 07, 2015, 09:54:14 PM
Like the title says.  I don't pay for hydro so I'm not worried about my consumption at all.  I want to mine out of my apartment so noise and hashrate are my only 2 concerns.  What would be the best I could buy that is quiet and under $1k

Buy antminer S5 and a quite fan. Replace the fan on antminer S5 and you have a quite high hash machine :)

S5 is  341$ for 1155 or 0.295$/GH

2x S3 is 200$ used oon ebay for 886 of 0.226 $/GH


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: dunand on January 08, 2015, 03:09:16 AM
Buy antminer S5 and a quite fan. Replace the fan on antminer S5 and you have a quite high hash machine :)

Quite is the new Hodl


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: lowbander80 on January 08, 2015, 08:18:15 AM
if power efficiency is not a problem KNC Jupiters at 1w/gh is the quitest I ever had
Very very quite and can be found with SUper low prices
Last seen on the flea bay sold 750Gh for 140 euro with no power efficiency in ming make today
0,009 BTC per dayn

0,28 per month


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: kabopar on January 08, 2015, 09:51:21 AM
You may also think about the heat generated by the miners.  This could be a 'bonus' if you use them to heat your place, but a nuisance if you need to operate an airconditioner or vents/fans to extract the heat.

cheers


Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: RadekG on January 08, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
Antminer C1.

I really hope Bitmain design a new C2 with the S5 chip.

4x S5 chip would be quite nice

Yes, since S5 PCB is single side heat it can be fanless 3TH/s machine with 4 blades and decent factory OC. Very quiet and strong.

Bitmain unfortunatelly is not planning C1 with S5 chips. It is e-mail response from Bitmain to me.



Title: Re: What's the quietest, most power miner if you don't care about power efficiency
Post by: wh00per on January 09, 2015, 01:18:10 AM
the quietest .. is a hashlet :) you don't care about power efficiency either.