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Title: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 03:45:02 PM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 30K coins sold at $300 might contain the stolen coins (mix 12K extra to cover the trace or the stolen amount is larger than our expectation of 18K).
Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: Eddie Brock on January 05, 2015, 04:00:21 PM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense.
Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:02:26 PM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. You are so red neck that you don't have the reading power to understand. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: NotLambchop on January 05, 2015, 04:03:41 PM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins. All your coin are belong to us 8) Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: uhoh on January 05, 2015, 04:04:48 PM Some coherence would be nice.
The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: RyNinDaCleM on January 05, 2015, 04:05:44 PM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins. I'm bearish and I didn't steal anyone's coins. There was 30k sold at $300. Not 3k. The "theft" is of 18k. So no it really doesn't add up. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: Jammalan the Prophet on January 05, 2015, 04:06:10 PM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins. But of course 1) Hack the exchange 2) use the same exchange to sell your coins 3) verify your identity and use a known bank account to withdraw the money from the exchange you have just robbed 4) assume nothing will happen and bitstamp will deliver your millions you have just stolen from them without even verifying anything Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:06:36 PM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if that address indeed contains the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: uhoh on January 05, 2015, 04:08:04 PM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:08:20 PM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins. I'm bearish and I didn't steal anyone's coins. There was 30k sold at $300. Not 3k. The "theft" is of 18k. So no it really doesn't add up. Good finding on my typo. Thanks. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: JimboToronto on January 05, 2015, 04:09:52 PM Don't worry about bears.
Treat them as a source of humor, not as something to be taken seriously. ;D Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:10:07 PM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control. Please read the post above starting with "But of course". Could be one explanation. Or stamp has hidden implicit addresses. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: uhoh on January 05, 2015, 04:11:02 PM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control. Please read the post above starting with "But of course". I did. I think you may wish to read it again, with your sarcasm sensors turned up a bit. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on January 05, 2015, 04:12:58 PM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins. I'm bearish and I didn't steal anyone's coins. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:15:08 PM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control. Please read the post above starting with "But of course". I did. I think you may wish to read it again, with your sarcasm sensors turned up a bit. I know he is hinting how unbelievable this 4 steps explanation is. But with some stamp employees' (betrayers') help, it is a piece of cake for the thefts to finish step 2-4. But of course, the betrayer will get his fair share of profits from this whole operation. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: uhoh on January 05, 2015, 04:19:18 PM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control. Please read the post above starting with "But of course". I did. I think you may wish to read it again, with your sarcasm sensors turned up a bit. I know he is hinting how unbelievable this 4 steps explanation is. But with some stamp employees' (betrayers') help, it is a piece of cake for the thefts to finish step 2-4. But of course, the betrayer will get his fair share of profits from this whole operation. You think that selling coins on the exchange you stole them from, and withdrawing the fiat to a bank account by wire is a likely and untraceable scenario? Close this thread now, its nonsense. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: waaat? on January 05, 2015, 04:19:28 PM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. +1 this thread is made to distract from how criminal permabulls are who bought coins for under a dollar and keep telling people here to buy 'cheap coins' at these prices when the downfall of bitcoin has actually become apparent and could be single digit prices by the end of the year. trying to tell people bears on here would be suspicious of a bitstamp hack is beyond retarded. The criminals and scammers are the permabulls trying to sell people the story of the 'cheap coins' and how bitcoin is going to take over the world when it's clearly not. Nice try OP Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:22:19 PM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. +1 this thread is made to distract from how criminal permabulls are who bought coins for under a dollar and keep telling people here to buy 'cheap coins' at these prices when the downfall of bitcoin has actually become apparent and could be single digit prices by the end of the year. Please switch to the trading post to quarrel with the permabulls. We are discussing the conspiracy theory about the stolen coins. Don't turn every post into a naive quarrel on the coin price. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 05, 2015, 04:23:30 PM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. +1 this thread is made to distract from how criminal permabulls are who bought coins for under a dollar and keep telling people here to buy 'cheap coins' at these prices when the downfall of bitcoin has actually become apparent and could be single digit prices by the end of the year. trying to tell people bears on here would be suspicious of a bitstamp hack is beyond retarded. The criminals and scammers are the permabulls trying to sell people the story of the 'cheap coins' and how bitcoin is going to take over the world when it's clearly not. Nice try OP If riding with the theft makes fortune for you, then please do it. We don't want to morally blame you, because there is no bottomline on human nature. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: waaat? on January 05, 2015, 04:27:24 PM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. +1 this thread is made to distract from how criminal permabulls are who bought coins for under a dollar and keep telling people here to buy 'cheap coins' at these prices when the downfall of bitcoin has actually become apparent and could be single digit prices by the end of the year. Please switch to the trading post to quarrel with the permabulls. We are discussing the conspiracy theory about the stolen coins. Don't turn every post into a naive quarrel on the coin price. then this topic is in the wrong section. It's not 'speculation' then. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 06, 2015, 02:26:59 AM Pumping this post to get some feedback. ;D
Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: derpinheimer on January 06, 2015, 02:28:31 AM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. Yep, OP is retarded. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 06, 2015, 02:36:16 AM You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense. Yep, OP is retarded. Yeah, you basher will never understand or share any insight. 574 posts/replies of garbage information? Good for you. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: Mieehayii on January 06, 2015, 02:46:28 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job?
Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: RyNinDaCleM on January 06, 2015, 02:53:35 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: ivyleague1985 on January 06, 2015, 02:58:03 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. This further confirms my suspicion on the relationship of bears and thefts. Some bears, especially that 30K @ $300 guy, is very suspicious. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: 42t on January 06, 2015, 03:04:10 AM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if that address indeed contains the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Other than the label on every transaction in the wallet saying "Bitstamp Hack". Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: Deadstock on January 06, 2015, 04:21:15 AM Some coherence would be nice. The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved. We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already. Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control. Please read the post above starting with "But of course". I did. I think you may wish to read it again, with your sarcasm sensors turned up a bit. I know he is hinting how unbelievable this 4 steps explanation is. But with some stamp employees' (betrayers') help, it is a piece of cake for the thefts to finish step 2-4. But of course, the betrayer will get his fair share of profits from this whole operation. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: AceWallen on January 06, 2015, 06:16:48 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. interesting, though i suppose anyone could have made a vague remark like that and turned out to be right sometime. who is this guy -- somebody who, in theory, could be in the know? Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: RyNinDaCleM on January 06, 2015, 06:36:21 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. interesting, though i suppose anyone could have made a vague remark like that and turned out to be right sometime. who is this guy -- somebody who, in theory, could be in the know? I don't know who he is. But it's also odd that he'd say "I have 5.2 million reasons...." in one of his tweets. The original might be coincidence. but that is a big coincidence (which he allows people to believe by not defending himself), and the 5.2M part might just be trolling. A lot of what ifs.. It was all over reddit and it was brought to my attention through another place I chat. Edit: He has deleted a few since I read it. One asking him to comment, him saying his lawyer advised him not to comment and one where someone said "ethics say you should comment"... and then he gets defensive when others get offended by his smug attitude. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: GÜNther.Danish on January 06, 2015, 06:52:14 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: RyNinDaCleM on January 06, 2015, 07:04:05 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. Look above your post Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: sgk on January 06, 2015, 07:24:39 AM I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins. But of course 1) Hack the exchange 2) use the same exchange to sell your coins 3) verify your identity and use a known bank account to withdraw the money from the exchange you have just robbed 4) assume nothing will happen and bitstamp will deliver your millions you have just stolen from them without even verifying anything This is all it takes to close this thread. And maybe I'm not getting it, but the 18k hack occurred just a few days ago and had no relation with those 30k coins sold. Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: AceWallen on January 06, 2015, 07:30:03 AM anyone could let me know whether is it a inside job? We may never know https://twitter.com/AdamGuerbuez/status/551862867956617216 May be nothing, but the date of the first tweet is suspect. interesting, though i suppose anyone could have made a vague remark like that and turned out to be right sometime. who is this guy -- somebody who, in theory, could be in the know? I don't know who he is. But it's also odd that he'd say "I have 5.2 million reasons...." in one of his tweets. The original might be coincidence. but that is a big coincidence (which he allows people to believe by not defending himself), and the 5.2M part might just be trolling. A lot of what ifs.. It was all over reddit and it was brought to my attention through another place I chat. Edit: He has deleted a few since I read it. One asking him to comment, him saying his lawyer advised him not to comment and one where someone said "ethics say you should comment"... and then he gets defensive when others get offended by his smug attitude. the 5.2 million comment caught my attention at first, but then i realized it could just be a convenient troll, after the fact. certainly curious, but we'll probably never know... Title: Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts Post by: adaseb on January 06, 2015, 07:42:22 AM No. I highly doubt they stole the money to dump the exchange.
In the asian exchanges you can trade BTC futures and one contract gives you leverage to short or long up to 10 positions. Its down because there is a lack of buyers. |